Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumI Think Beto O' Rourke Can Win
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I think just about all of the Democratic candidates could beat Donald Trump. I just wanted to comment on O' Rourke's statement announcing he is running for President. I think he could beat Donald Trump in the general election. He seems like he could get many different types of people to vote for him. We still have to see his policies, but so far he seems like he could win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
msongs
(67,438 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,476 posts)Considering the significant difference in voter turnout in TX between the right and the left, that's a pretty significant accomplishment. If TX had national-average turnout, Beto would probably have won, but D turnout is an ongoing problem here.
I find it curious that people seem to want to discount Beto solely because he lost a close race to a Republican in a red-turning-purple state, but don't seem to think that Democrats who've lost previous primaries by much larger margins against other Democrats should be viewed similarly. By similar logic, Sanders and Biden should just pack it in, Joe before even he announces.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,476 posts)Especially when it's only selectively applied.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. So I've been told.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)smear campaign on Facebook. I saw it everywhere. And after a week of it, Beto, who had been rising plateaued just in time. Bet there were intense debates on Cruz campaign about when to unleash the trash.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,574 posts)in red Texas.
His campaigning was Brilliant.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,387 posts)on his Senate campaign. Considering that nearly all of the Democrats that ran for state office in 2014 lost by about 20 percent, cutting the margin to less than 3% was a significant accomplishment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,574 posts)I think it's a silly talking point to say Beto couldn't beat ted cruz in Texas. When he was soooo Close.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,496 posts)At lunch yesterday, two of my law partners, three associates and two paralegals were all contributing to Beto and buying bumper stickers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,635 posts)...without singing Koom by yah...then i get the giggles. Yep he could win!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)All Democrats are hitting the same policy themes, some a bit more to the left than others, but all in the same ballpark. Personality not policy is what really distinguishes them, and we need someone who can fire up the troops and steal the spotlight from Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Charisma is like the quarterback and policy is like the defensive line. Yes, both are terrific advantages and there are examples of each one carrying the day without the other, but given a choice of more-often-than-not there really isn't a choice at all.
Give me the quarterback and I'll take my chances.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sugarcoated
(7,728 posts)He'll be able to bat back and mock Trump's silly but effective school yard bully mob guy shtick. He's quick, sharp and fearless. And a fighter. Yay! I'm so thrilled he's running!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)He will have to convince voters on his own
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,476 posts)He was in a close race with Cruz in a red-leaning state with an ongoing D turnout problem. It wasn't close solely because he's a "rockstar".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Have to do better
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)And Cruz lasted a lot longer than more established Repubicons. I did have to laugh my ass off when he made that desperation move at the end to have Carly Fiorina as his "running mate". She has run two companies (Lucent and Hewlett Packard) straight into the ground, and Lyin' Ted thought he could pick up California votes with his last-ditch gambit.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,476 posts)Beto vs. Trump and Trump vs. Cruz have nothing in common. Apples and oranges. The latter was a primary and irrelevant to a national contest in 2020. Besides, Cruz thumped Trump in Texas 44/27. Beto lost by 2.6%.
Trump won the primary overall because he tapped into disaffected, racist morons who couldn't see through his crap and other assorted malcontents. He certainly didn't beat Cruz because he was a better candidate. Had the GOP gotten their shit together earlier and rallied behind one anti-Trump candidate, Cruz may have won. He was one of the last ones in the race.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)said today. ALL you have to do to win in TX is to just show you are a good guy. No policy. Just that more than half think Trump's an asshole scumbag. Just show you aren't. They didn't like Beto's policy laden display this morning. They think it turns people off. Just be a nice guy
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forklift
(401 posts)the next POTUS or VPOTUS without a doubt.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sugarcoated
(7,728 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)....Now I see Beto and say "Wow"....I am impressed....
It would be great to see a Harris/Beto or Beto/Harris - if I thought that those two could win the entire Nation....
I love Joe Biden....despite his "baggage" from his past. However - I think Biden on the ticket as President with either Harris or Beto would be a winning ticket for POTUS and beating Trump and helping bring our Nation back and our democracy.
I think we need a woman on the ticket....I really don't feel having two white males is what our Nation needs....yet is that what is needed to beat a racist misogynistic MOFO?
So I don't know what will happen...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radius777
(3,635 posts)would simply confirm the Trumper narrative, that women/PoC/etc are inferior and need white men to do the job.
So even if we "won" with such a ticket, we would lose the larger cultural argument.
One of the spots on the ticket should be a woman; women drove the blue wave and this is the MeToo era, making it good politics as well.
Personally, I favor a Kamala/Beto ticket, a rockstar ticket which can mobilize the Obama coalition.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JCMach1
(27,572 posts)et al
So, definitely he can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sellitman
(11,607 posts)That's my take.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pachamama
(16,887 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)I'd like to know more about his actual beliefs and policies at a national level though, as obviously running in Texas he had to tailor things more to the local audience.
I suspect its too early for him, and I'd definitely prefer him to gain a bit more experience first. If he could take a senate seat in 2020 and look to run in 2028 that would be ideal I think. If he can win it now though, good for him!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PDittie
(8,322 posts)Sorry, but he couldn't beat Ted Cruz here. And Cruz couldn't beat trump.
What precisely -- if you would, please -- makes you think he can win the Democratic nomination? Charm is certainly a nice quality, but he's weak on the issues that appear to be driving D voters' enthusiasm this cycle (where he even has firm stands on them).
My belief, FWIW, is that Beto will make someone a helpful running mate; probably not Biden or Sanders, perhaps Kamala or Liz Warren, Amy Klobuchar, or Cory Booker should they be nominated.
One other point: Perhaps you are aware that the LBJ law in Texas means he can run for both president and US Senate (against John Cornyn) next year. I fully expect both O'Rourke and Julián Castro to avail themselves of this.
The conversation so far has been presented as an either-or that if ORourke runs for Senate, hed be out of the presidential race. But both ORourke and Castro would be eligible to be on the Texas ticket for Senate and for president or vice president, if they so desired. Texas law prevents candidates from filing for more than one office, except for that LBJ exemption. And the exemption in the Texas Election Code is broader than history might indicate: This section does not apply to candidacy for the office of president or vice-president of the United States and another office.
Sp while I do not think either man can capture the nomination, one would be a strong ticket mate for the right nominee. And with Beto and Castro both on the top of the 2020 ballot, Texas turns blue. And the GOP loses Texas, the White House, the Senate ...
Even George Will knows this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)All of those things are irrelevant. Texas isn't indicative of the entire US electorate. And the 2016 Republican primary and 2020 general election have nothing in comparison.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,407 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Just odd.
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WhiskeyGrinder
(22,407 posts)that just make him look out of touch when it comes to women, especially in the current political climate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Just my opinion, but it appears to me that he takes his wife for granted.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sugarcoated
(7,728 posts)She did look at the camera several times, though
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,496 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Positive thread. More and more of these are appearing today at DU. Good job guys!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden