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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
1. Rent the hall, invite the media to attend, tell them to sit down and STFU
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:02 PM
Aug 2019

allowing the media to steer the event is like letting the DA prepare your defense in a criminal trial.

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Demsrule86

(68,607 posts)
3. Come on...debates have always been hosted on TV.
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:17 PM
Aug 2019

I tire of folks always willing to attack Democratic leaders...Perez is doing fine.

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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
4. Ya...It's working so well
Wed Aug 7, 2019, 11:22 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,607 posts)
9. I doubt anything that Perez did would make some happy.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:51 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pecosbob

(7,541 posts)
7. Yes, but CNN ain't the League of Women Voters
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 09:18 AM
Aug 2019

The media doesn't need to be part of it...that's not their job, but to cover it...that is their job.

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Demsrule86

(68,607 posts)
8. You have a point...although do they do the primaries? I thought they did the general.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 02:50 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
16. It used to be sponsored by The League of Women Voters, here is a little history for those that don't
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 05:49 PM
Aug 2019

know it.



(snip)

In 1984, the cooperation between the Republican and Democratic parties led to a joint veto of almost 100 proposed panelists for the first debate. The following election cycle saw more of a grab for control by the two major parties. The campaigns of George H.W. Bush and Michael Dukakis met without the knowledge of the League of Women Voters (LWV) and drafted a memorandum of understanding. This secret document specified who would be allowed sit in the audience during the '88 debates and who would serve as panelists, as well as abolished follow-up questions. Under these terms, the LWV would be left to merely host and would have no say in how the debates were held.

In disgust, the League of Women Voters exposed the memorandum and resigned as hosts of presidential debates, citing the "fraud on the American voter" being carried out by the two major parties [source: PBS]. To fill the void left by the LWV, the Democrats and Republicans formed the joint nonprofit bipartisan organization the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD).

(snip)

The fallout from Perot's exclusion from the debates illustrates one of the vital services the CPD provides the two major parties. It acts as a shield. Despite the Democrats and Republicans drafting memorandums of understanding and deciding who can participate, it's the CPD that publicly issues the decisions; so it's the CPD that accepts the public's ire. But since it isn't beholden to the public, the CPD has nothing to lose. In 1996, a poll found that five percent of people polled blamed the Clinton campaign for Perot's exclusion, and Bob Dole's campaign received the blame from 13 percent of respondents. More than 50 percent held the CPD at fault [source: Open Debates].

What's more, the formats of presidential debates under the CPD lent themselves to pat, rehearsed answers that offer little insight into the candidates' views of the issues. In 2000, Sen. John Kerry (who would be the Democratic candidate four years later) criticized the debates: "You could have picked ten people off the street who didn't know Jerusalem from Georgia and they would have had better questions" [source: Open Debates].

(snip)

https://people.howstuffworks.com/debate4.htm


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RobertDevereaux

(1,857 posts)
17. Yes I recall this travesty.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 08:46 PM
Aug 2019

I so miss the League of Women Voters’ being in charge.

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brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
6. Explain how your non-corporate media debate would work.
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:14 AM
Aug 2019

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If I were to vote in a presidential
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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
10. The DNC supplies the questions
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 03:19 PM
Aug 2019

I'm not interested in what Tapper wants to ask.

For starters.

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brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
11. You wouldn't see the DNC as another biased source?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 04:01 PM
Aug 2019

How many times do you see a post here that the DNC is too corporatist or plays favorites among candidates?

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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
12. Agreed upon by candidates
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 04:56 PM
Aug 2019
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brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
13. The candidates should agree on the questions to ask the candidates?
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 05:14 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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2020Junker

(99 posts)
15. I don't want them to moderate with their media personalities
Thu Aug 8, 2019, 05:44 PM
Aug 2019

Host? Sure. Televise? Absolutely.

Have their infotainment ring leaders doing the questioning?

Newp newp newp newp.

I don't want "personalities" doing the questioning. I want thoughtful, considered people asking the questions and moderating the flow. The personalities are seeking spectacle, ratings, they want a brawl. I want some civic-minded folks controlling the flow. The media personalities are not civic-minded. They know where their bread is buttered.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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