better than the two you mentioned.

But that doesn't translate to people trusting someone to lead the country.

O' Rourke is not a say anything - vote pandering - huddle with my Machiavellian advisors practicing bullsh*t attacks - kind of candidate.

I am sure he doesn't give a shit about polls right now. He is being a leader in his community and pulling for Texas. There are many months and a debate to go but if he wants out, I will support whatever he chooses to do after that.

He'd make a *great* VP.

When he started apologizing for anything & everything. Pandering. He should have stood up for himself like Biden

It put out the flame.

around here you get a hide for sneezing.

and answered more questions from voters than any other candidate to that point?

there was no need to defend himself as Biden did.

we see how strongly he can speak out with how he has gone after trump and called the media on their bs.

O'Rourke is. decent fellow, but He just doesnt have "it". And others do. All my opinion of course, but i've got a good track record

everyone praised him.

Double standard?

years ago, in a State of the City speech in March 2015. He was told what it was being used for by others, and never used it again. Other polticians, including Hillary Clinton, used it as well, after Buttigieg had already stopped his one time usage.

Here is the complete speech, his usage of it was hardly a swipe at the BLM movement, and again, he stopped using it immediately after being told of the misuse by others who actually were bad actors.

https://southbendvoice.com/2015/03/11/full-text-mayor-buttigiegs-state-of-the-city-address-2015/

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It’s time for South Bend to begin talking about racial reconciliation. That means honest, frank discussions that allow city leaders, law enforcement, and community members to face the mistakes of the past and establish shared ground for the future. We cannot reach our full potential for community-oriented policing until we have made it the norm that all residents feel and know that we have every reason to be both pro-minority and pro-police, at the same time.

There is no contradiction between respecting the risks that police officers take every day in order to protect this community, and recognizing the need to overcome the biases implicit in a justice system that treats people from different backgrounds differently, even when they are accused of the same offenses. We need to take both those things seriously, for the simple and profound reason that all lives matter.

Our challenges our great, but our opportunities are greater. The results we have seen in the last year and the last few years leave no doubt that that sun emerging on our city seal is still a rising sun for South Bend. And the year ahead promises to be another one of good results for our neighborhoods, residents, families and businesses.

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because we need good people to fight the good fight as members of Congress and as governors as well along with other state offices.

I think he will wind up with a role in the Biden Administration myself. Ambassador to Mexico?

He needs a little more seasoning before running for president, but he's a good guy.

He will be back. I hope he is, we need his voice.

He's never recaptured the glory days of his Senate run against Cruz.

Now he's one of 20+, and his star fades among brighter lights.

In my humble opinion.

In an effort to beat Cruz. Back around then I got some grief because I doubted that enthusiasm would transfer to the primary.

in poor taste, and cherry picked the polls.

I don't know how using the four most recent state polls is cherry picking.

I don't know what you're getting at.

His calling out Trump and the news media on Monday was brilliant. He can continue to do that if he withdraws, he has great influence in Texas and credibility with the media and the rest of the country. He is enough to tip Texas to the tossup category, in a watershed election he could be the blue magic. Besides the guy is just incredible bright, interesting, perceptive, and strategic. Who wouldn't want Beto's help?

He should run for Senate.

And I agree with you that he has influence in Texas and the rest of the country. We just have too many great people. Only one can win the nomination.

to speak on behalf of the people and the party.

Why should he be the one to run for the Senate? There are others, including his fellow Texan Julian Castro, who should run as well.

The only reason people are calling on him to step down is because they are threatened by Beto.

but his organization has been very slow to take off and fly, including hiring new press and policy heads, and he's held comparatively very few fundraisers.

One of Hillary's ex- staffers said that being a candidate for president is like having to create a billion-dollar corporation that needs to be up and running well in practically no time. Beto's flubbed that, but his performance during his senate run wowed everyone and made him a national name.

First--his viral WTF moment didn't happen until, I think it was Sunday night--the recent polls I've seen (I don't know if they are the same as the ones you are posting about) ended their polling Sunday or Monday. And this started people to start paying attention to him. People I've talked to have continued to like what they are seeing the rest of this week so far and some have switched support after seeing the video of him consoling a survivor yesterday. If Beto is going to get a bump, it may take until next week or so to show up in polls.

And people get far too caught up in the horserace polls now when history shows things can change greatly later in the race--Here is some history--Late December 2003, Kerry was at 4% nationally

The week before Christmas 2003

Poll: Dean Pulls Away In Dem Race https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-dean-pulls-away-in-dem-race/

Dean 23%

Clark 10%

Lieberman 10%

Gephardt 6%

Sharpton 5%

Kerry 4%

Edwards 2%

Moseley-Braun 1%

Kucinich 1%

Don’t Know 28%


Also--in his race, Clinton came from behind.

At DU, the Dean, Clarke and Edwards partisans were busily battling it out. Kerry was an afterthought here as he was to the general electorate, until the actual primaries began.

That was why, when his support from Democratic powers dried up, he made the decision to put I think 6 million dollars, gained by taking a mortgage on his half of his Boston home to have the money to compete in November 2003.

A friend, who was in Iowa, said that where most campaigns lost supporters to others as they met the other campaigns, once they decided they were for Kerry, they stayed with Kerry.

Another difference was that in the last week of th e campaign, the Republican marine, that Kerry saved in Vietnam, called the campaign and surprised Kerry at a campaign event. To me, this was almost out of a 1940s movie. I suspect this had an enormous impact at the end.

people he could in person, going door to door . all in those cold months before election day.

if there is anyone this time who has that limitless energy it's Beto O'Rourke.

He's just not my pick for potus.

Not presidential material, not yet anyway. Bright future ahead of him.

Beto is taking care of his community while calling out Trumps racism.

As for his campaign, I saw him in Nashville a couple weeks ago and it wasn't fizzled then when a thousand supporters packed a venue on a Sunday afternoon to show their support

Sad to see. He wasn’t chosen by the media as one of their bets shots to make it a horse race.

Unfortunately I didn't see the whole thing and missed the second night entirely but that speech really stood out. I think he's definitely still in the veep-stakes.

Then it’s way too early to say Beto is fizzling.

He was wonderful today. I don’t understand why this would come up today.

That show him at 0,0,1, and 1%.

Still I think if he can help turn Texas blue, he has a good chance of being on the ticket.

Kind of hard to get momentum when you've got Warren, Biden, and Sanders at those top three positions in a 20 candidate field. Has to keep getting enough support to hang around until the debates are more manageable.

We need Beto at the top of the ticket to turn Texas blue and push the rest of the ticket over the line.

that's unlikely...run for Senate!

Since last Thursday he has been 6th or worst in every national poll.

Behind Harris in 4th at 8%.

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The last few days he has been a major newsmaker in a very good way.

DU is not representative of the Democratic electorate, but if there was significant change, it is likely we would see it.

He's been at home in El Paso expressing tremendous sincerity and empathy with victims of a mass shooting not to mention kicking Trump's ass all over every medium. Good timing for this post. Really classy.

I expect it will carry over.

Definitely not.

We need someone like him to help us deal with these situations.
(He can do that very well as a Senator too

That’s what we’re calling the fallout of mass shootings now?

Link to tweet

How candidates respond to a crisis matters. Go figure.

Imagine losing a family member in that shooting and hearing people exclaim about what a “great” week some candidate or another was having all because of it.

I would think even Beto would disagree with people saying he had a “great” week. Wtf?

Just think about it dude, just think about it.

We're talking politics here. Did I hurt your feelings?

Try and think about it. Politics don’t trump (pun intended) personal tragedy in my book. Good to know how you feel.

My feelings are just fine, thanks.

And you may think Beto had a “great week” but I predict he’s finished. He simply doesn’t have what it takes.

Top 4 in several national polls this week. Already qualified for both fall debates. We're not going anywhere baby!

All because of the deaths of 22 people in his hometown.

His campaign isn’t gaining any traction.

Campaign doesn't appear to be going anywhere. Perhaps some time in future political races.

I’d think that would be something that any decent human would do. I don’t really get the applause that everyone thinks is needed for doing the right thing

It's not even February.

It's a concerted effort to starve him of campaign funding

apparent inability to focus on more than one relatively new non-Biden, non-very-progressive candidate at a time. First O'Rourke, then Buttigieg, then Harris.

Biden as the front-runner always gets media attention (though much of it has been criticism), Warren and Sanders can count on steady coverage by the more progressive journalists/pundits, but candidates closer to Biden politically seem to be picked up and dropped like toys discarded by bored children...which the media often seem to be.

But his emphatic and strong denunciation of IdiotTrump has me wondering how the polls will shift mid- next week.

He is resurging. He is a worthy candidate for President. He has been pretty amazing in both his words and actions.

candidates running by calling out trump for what it was and the media that makes excuses for him.

this is also why they have been careful to not equate Bidens gaffes with actual bigotry from trump.

and took the fight to Trump and the media