Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden Says 'Poor Kids' Are Just as Smart as 'White Kids' in Iowa
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-09/biden-says-poor-kids-are-just-as-smart-as-white-kids-in-iowaThe former vice president, who is known for verbal gaffes, made the remarks to the Asian & Latino Coalition in Des Moines, Iowa, where he is on a four-day campaign swing for the Democratic presidential nomination.
We should challenge students in these schools and have advanced placement programs in these schools, Biden said. We have this notion that somehow if youre poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids are just as bright, just as talented, as white kids." He quickly added, "Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids, no I really mean it, but think how we think about it.
We think how were going to dumb it down. They can do anything anybody else can do given a shot."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Iowans know what he means.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)candidates, it's a better use of my time, effort, cash money and energy to not put any of those things toward a candidate right now. I've posted before about how I think it's healthier for the entire party and the eventual candidate to use this time to find every candidate's weak spots and push on them to work them out. So I find it deeply disappointing that so many people with Biden avatars seem to find it hard to say something like, "Jesus, that's a bad look -- I respect him so much and hope he gets his act together."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)I'll vote in my state primary and participate in campaigning/GOTV for the ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Vote for our nominee...regardless!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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pangaia
(24,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)Do you have a problem with that?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,045 posts)candidate you're looking for, you can let us know.
Untll then, I'll focus on candidates I know are only human, and consider their strengths as well as extremely trivial mistakes.
And I'll give both the strengths and the trivial mistakes the attention and weight they deserve.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)candidates we do have to do better, and to keep trying to do better. The campaign trail is the perfect place for that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pangaia
(24,324 posts)a while...if ever...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
John Fante
(3,479 posts)thread title.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,924 posts)Everyone being given an equal chance to prove themselves is what we want, right?
Come on, people. Stop looking for a gaffe. This is not one, it's just plain speaking.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wiley
(2,921 posts)The question is why anyone rec'd this diary when it is so obviously petty. Not a story. Maybe the GOP is right. In less than a week Democrats will be back to the circular firing squad mode, and no one will be talking about all the dead and wounded in El Paso and Dayton.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I also DO understand the .. what can I call it-- the subtle 'back of the mind' mistake.. or...
I certainly do not hold that against him.... it is, to me, something that we white guys and gals need to just see and understand.. where it comes from in us... me included.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I still think it was an.. um... odd comparison- "Wealthy kids, black kids, Asian kids,.."
But I'm not worried anout it...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
enough
(13,264 posts)This is why I wont vote for him in the Primary and hope hes not the nominee. Not everyone his age is like this, but many are. I know because Im the same age.
(And yes of course if hes the candidate I will vote for him in the end.)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Took me a few tries to figure that one out. Some just like it down there
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,220 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts).... faced down the troll.
Barack was very good, scripted too.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skittles
(153,220 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Go here to watch: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287232482
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,799 posts)especially why it was from the heart.
He's good unscripted, too.. I've heard him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
murielm99
(30,777 posts)He has been gaffing for years.
He could be the one to beat 45. I am good with that, even though he is not my first choice.
And...when he is on target, he is great. His speech the other day was masterful.
Let's look at his experience and leadership ability instead.
I am tired of watching us pick apart our candidates. The repiggies do it, we shouldn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bigtree
(86,008 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
He is a billionaire. He doesn't need money from those that can't.
Oh. Got it. He needs the dollar to get on the debate stage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)He leads every other liberal donor, including Michael Bloomberg and George Soros, contributing almost $248 million cumulatively to candidates, PACs and other political organizations. Much of that cash goes toward PACs and organizations that spend money independently of candidates, including attack ads on Republicans.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/07/tom-steyer-enters-2020presidential-field/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I haven't heard the audio yet. Kind of scared to listen don't know if I can handle the cringe.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)A tweet was edited out in the OP that had the video.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
melman
(7,681 posts)Ouch. So bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....since I don't subscribe to Bloomberg I don't get that?
BTW, the only source of this story is Bloomberg, it hasn't appeared anywhere else except for regurgitations of the Bloomberg story.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)as being a powerful statement. I guess it wasn't just Bloomberg.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287232853#post42
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Looks like we're back on that Merry-Go-Round again, round and round and round. Hope I get the brass ring this time!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Can I get a horsie that goes up and down this time instead of one of those stationary ones? Used to love them on the Central Park ride.
Thanks!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,953 posts)Copy and paste and voila, non caps.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Don't get too dizzy.
Mahalo Autumn!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....I'm directed back to the origin of the back and forth.
No one ever gets to snatch the brass ring on that Carousel.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,858 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Powerful statement and clips were shown on all the ntl evening news channels
Not sure why you want to continue to throw shade his way. it doesnt work. Why not just build up your candidates of choice?!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)the OP referenced. Some in this thread must have missed them.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Wednesdaywisdom Twitter with 225k followers posted his speech 14+k hearts
Embedded in this one. CBS news
https://theweek.com/speedreads/857662/biden-blasts-trumps-lowenergy-vacanteyed-shooting-response-prompting-realtime-angry-tweet
Washington post op Biden puts trump to shame
https://www.washingtonpost.com/
See comment #91. ABC politics
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287231558 also see post #90. Washington post opinion: Joe Biden reminds us all what a presidential president should sound like
CNN interview with Biden moves many DUers to tears
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287229037
Joy Reid: this was a powerful indictment coming from the former VP
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287231070.. see post #5
Nicole Wallace.. deadline White House.. see post #13
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287231070
I could continue, but you get my point.. backed up as requested with links!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)You just dont like Mr. Biden and you know thats okay, but dont like it when someone points that out that he is doing well.
Go ahead and post another baseless snipe. It seems thats what you do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,953 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)50. Be sure and post the videos of all the praise by the pundits and clips of his powerful statement
the OP referenced. Some in this thread must have missed them.
with this
77. How many would you like
Wednesdaywisdom Twitter with 225k followers posted his speech 14+k hearts
Embedded in this one. CBS news
https://theweek.com/speedreads/857662/biden-blasts-trumps-lowenergy-vacanteyed-shooting-response-prompting-realtime-angry-tweet
Washington post op Biden puts trump to shame
https://www.washingtonpost.com/
See comment #91. ABC politics
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287231558 also see post #90. Washington post opinion: Joe Biden reminds us all what a presidential president should sound like
CNN interview with Biden moves many DUers to tears
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287229037
Joy Reid: this was a powerful indictment coming from the former VP
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287231070.. see post #5
Nicole Wallace.. deadline White House.. see post #13
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287231070
I could continue, but you get my point.. backed up as requested with links!!
It's really not my fault you didn't pay attention or didn't understand what was in my post. It seems rather simple to me, so keep your baseless snipe to yourself.
the OP referenced.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Just another snipe... thats all you offer
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)None of those links were praise for what Biden said that was linked in the OP, as you claimed. Talk about sniping, you do nothing but snipe at me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
16. Wow is right. Did you hear the applause in the room? Like 25 people at least.
25 people applauded. How many people were in the room...30?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Are you saying the majority of Biden supporters in a given room would applaud this...
...or are you saying Biden appearances only draw 30 people?
Cause I'm not really seeing how either of those is all that helpful.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,953 posts)Ta.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I don't think so. I think this is all rather disturbing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,953 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Please enlighten me as to..
- what is it that doesn't disturb me that you think should
- how it is that you know this, and..
- why you think this statement isn't disturbing
Do tell.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
You tell me.
You opened it up, explain.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I'm pretty sure you just professed to know what doesn't disturb me. What are these things and how do you know?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,953 posts)It is late.
Night Night~
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I'll take that as an acknowledgement that you can't back up what you claimed. Thank you for admitting it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,953 posts)I admitted nothing.
Night,
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,799 posts)big Gotcha.. wouldn't want to spoil that for him, would we?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,563 posts)We know he means well, but these gaffes are not helping.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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IronLionZion
(45,563 posts)and shouldn't take us for granted
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...that if he's the nominee you won't vote for him in the general election?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Seriously, time and again using mr. Biden as a punching bag is shown not to work. As far as minority voters Biden now has 50+% of the AA vote.
If all the negativity isnt working... then why not try saying positive things about your candidate of choice
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)They are Iowa nice there. Iowans are some of the best folks that I have ever met and befriended when I volunteered for Barack way back when he and Michelle had no bodyguards of any kind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,347 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)That is not a sound bite we want hanging onto our presidential campaign. The sooner he steps aside, the better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Auggie
(31,207 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,636 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,467 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dalton99a
(81,636 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Voltaire2
(13,213 posts)Is that what you meant?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueTsunami2018
(3,505 posts)Are we now to expect certain candidates to call him a racist again because he said white instead of wealthy, which is obviously what he meant?
It didnt help before. Its not going to help them now.
Nothing really to see here but the perpetually outraged are going to be outraged. Whatever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BootinUp
(47,201 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)signifying nothing as usual.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,419 posts)It is what he does and what he plans to do that matter more.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,338 posts)Let's fix that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)because he got tired of the screw-ups:
Obama apparently made his feelings known.
"'How many times is Biden going to say something stupid?" Obama reportedly said after Biden said that it would not be "six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy."
Staffers said Obama's response was as angry as they had ever seen him, according to the book.
"There was always a big concern that Biden would talk too much, say the wrong things," Heilemann said today. "And as soon as that happened, that was the moment they cut back Biden's access to the press."
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/game-change-authors-halperin-heilemann-shocked/story?id=9530045
Thats from Game Change. Biden's office criticized the book but didnt challenge anything specifically.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)Presidential custom. But what that anecdote tells me at least is we didnt hear a steady steam of gaffes from VP Biden because he was managed very carefully by Obama. The guy just made more slip-ups in one day than in eight years working for a highly-disciplined boss who ran a very tight ship.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)Biden was a great VP. Biden is dangerous when he goes off-script.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)The rest ...dangerous... not really
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,120 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Expect an agenda.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
thesquanderer
(11,996 posts)My worry would be that some Trump-aligned dirty-tricks group could use that against him by running the clip in an ad that cuts off before his correction.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)... close the door when I meant to say the window.
Social media being what it is, would catch that sucker within five minutes. Also, television stations and news outlets have discretion in placing ads they feel are deceptive. I doubt such an ad would get wide play. There would be angry protests and bad social media publicity.
Even so, such dirty tricks would just give Joe a full range of rebuttal options like his speech two days ago. The media would televise Joe anytime as they did the other night. Trump, not so much... unless it is Faux News.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,809 posts)Even if he is not the nominee, it will be the same. Nasty nicknames, twisted statements, false claims. Its what they do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Several times.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,182 posts)...with what Joe said?...his intent and meaning was clear and sincere...
...the was no malice in his words...
...there was no hidden meaning...
...I think Joe's being hammered unfairly...
...el trumpo can say anything, but Joe has to cross ever 't' and dot every 'i'?
...not right, not fair...
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/09/14/racial-wealth-inequality-in-the-u-s-is-rampant-infographic/#fd0f6db34e86
yes, it is a bit of an inappropriate blanket statement, but it's not entirely dishonest, when it comes to wealth distribution White is by and far the majority beneficiary and entitled. I don't know about everyone else, but addressing inequality of education and wealth are core reasons I'm proudly Democrat to begin with.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Bookmarked to show my politically active family and friends.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/09/14/racial-wealth-inequality-in-the-u-s-is-rampant-infographic/#fd0f6db34e86
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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loyalsister
(13,390 posts)For someone who does not have those views it does need to be said. It is a given that all kids have potential.
The problem is policy makers not investing. Because they accept the old mythology about intellectual deficiencies as valid conventional wisdom.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I would have considered that gaffe deplorable from him. But like Biden, I don't think it's some unearthing of some under-the-hood hidden bias. I think it's just a verbal blurble. Not very material. It just sucks/bad luck.
Everyone misspeaks from time to time. (Though some do it more often than others.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
elleng
(131,197 posts)Just go right along with the russkies' intentions, I guess.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)It's in the carousel, near the top of the stack.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-tells-minority-voters-in-iowa-that-poor-kids-are-just-as-bright-as-white-kids/ar-AAFzuRl?ocid=spartanntp
I don't have a place to host a screenshot for you.
Edit: Heh, I see the URL discloses what browser I am using. Clever. (Project Spartan is Edge, in Windows 10)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)But yeah, there was a divorce some time ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Princetonian
(1,501 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)And since the news aggregation is chosen in-house at Microsoft since 2012... That says something about the article that is on one site, and not the other.
Interesting.
I wonder when the last time the Media Bias Map was updated, and whether it includes MSN.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,210 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)To have Biden say that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mike Nelson
(9,973 posts)... nothing. He's done this for decades. Everyone knows what he meant. An overall debate performance or live town hall will show us Biden and any performance issues. He's been doing well, and these misspeaks are meaningless.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ooky
(8,930 posts)What a surprise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)Lol I guess they got another one on him. Hes so much more hurtful than the Dotard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,666 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rzemanfl
(29,573 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden