Democratic Primaries

bluewater

(5,376 posts) Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:23 AM Aug 2019

Iowa corn poll may signal trouble for Joe Biden.

'Ear this, America: A uniquely unscientific poll of Iowa voters suggests Joe Biden is struggling to maintain his front-runner status in the Democratic presidential primary race.

Just 24% of Iowa State Fair goers “voted” for Biden by dropping a kernel of corn in his jar in a fair display designed to predict the winner of the nominating contest.

The vice president out-husked his closest rival, Pete Buttigieg, who drew 16% in the Cast Your Kernel contest. Sen. Elizabeth Warren was right behind with 15% and Sen. Kamala Harris took 11%.

Link to tweet

That margin reflects a closer contest than most national polls, and shows that the vice president may be in for a rocky start when the voting starts with the Iowa caucuses next February.

Of course, you butter be ready for plenty of ups and downs before that frosty night.

Hillary Clinton won the 2016 Kernel contest in a landslide, but barely eked out a win against upstart Bernie Sanders in the actual caucus. Sanders is trailing badly this time with just 9%.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-iowa-corn-poll-joe-biden-20190812-vunsn5oxonhxjjjjfvg5u2aswm-story.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Iowa corn poll may signal trouble for Joe Biden. (Original Post) bluewater Aug 2019 OP

I wouldn't put much stock in that corn poll. Skidmore Aug 2019 #1

It's just a "tradition" of sorts. bluewater Aug 2019 #4

Those with a hatred of Biden will probably put a lot of stock in it. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #25

Yeah looks real bad. He's winning. ucrdem Aug 2019 #2

Its the f-ing corn poll bluewater Aug 2019 #8

Hey let me enjoy a little schadenfreude ucrdem Aug 2019 #12

It's STILL national news. bluewater Aug 2019 #15

Yeah well to judge by the headline nobody bothered to count the corn. ucrdem Aug 2019 #18

The OP would make a breathless OP about it, for sure. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #26

No not taking it seriously, it's like the DU poll here. A select few with a particular view Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #21

LOL!! peggysue2 Aug 2019 #19

Losing while winning, that's good! ucrdem Aug 2019 #24

"That margin reflects a closer contest than most national polls" LOL wyldwolf Aug 2019 #3

No kidding! bluewater Aug 2019 #6

Yeah this is the one where the front runner is supposed to get "informally" roasted ucrdem Aug 2019 #7

Everyone is happy Biden got 24% in the Corn Poll bluewater Aug 2019 #10

not only is it not scientific LeftTurn3623 Aug 2019 #5

"Biden rivals creamed in corn poll" ucrdem Aug 2019 #9

Everyone is celebrating Joe's awesome 24% in the Corn Poll! woooo bluewater Aug 2019 #13

It's dumb I'll give you that but hey it's still summer ucrdem Aug 2019 #14

Amended title: Iowa corn poll signals trouble for everyone but Biden. Hortensis Aug 2019 #11

Important update on the corn kernel poll Celerity Aug 2019 #16

Seth and Wayne... neck and neck! bluewater Aug 2019 #17

Meh Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #20

Not really since there aren't many black folks in Iowa. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #22

Nothing to see here - move along. Joe941 Aug 2019 #23

And who comes in first in that self-selecting poll? MineralMan Aug 2019 #27

This is korney! honest.abe Aug 2019 #28

Iowa doesn't reflect America. onecaliberal Aug 2019 #29

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)

1. I wouldn't put much stock in that corn poll.

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:31 AM

Aug 2019

People vote in it multiple times. Change their minds. Etc. It has about as much validity an online poll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

4. It's just a "tradition" of sorts.

Reply to Skidmore (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:41 AM

Aug 2019

"Hillary Clinton won the 2016 Kernel contest in a landslide, but barely eked out a win against upstart Bernie Sanders in the actual caucus"

But all things Iowa get massive media attention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BannonsLiver

(16,403 posts)

25. Those with a hatred of Biden will probably put a lot of stock in it.

Reply to Skidmore (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:01 PM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

2. Yeah looks real bad. He's winning.

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:40 AM

Aug 2019

And he's been there for far less time than his rivals who didn't get much corn for their troubles.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

8. Its the f-ing corn poll

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:44 AM

Aug 2019

Don't take it seriously.

It's just more media BS about oh so important Iowa.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

12. Hey let me enjoy a little schadenfreude

Reply to bluewater (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:48 AM

Aug 2019

we both know if Biden came up short but a single kernel it would be national news all week!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

15. It's STILL national news.

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:51 AM

Aug 2019

But point taken.

The Biden Campaign dodged a bullet!

nicely done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

18. Yeah well to judge by the headline nobody bothered to count the corn.

Reply to bluewater (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:56 AM

Aug 2019

Biden would be "in trouble" if he won every kernel because the corn would have GMOs

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

BannonsLiver

(16,403 posts)

26. The OP would make a breathless OP about it, for sure.

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:01 PM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Thekaspervote

(32,779 posts)

21. No not taking it seriously, it's like the DU poll here. A select few with a particular view

Reply to bluewater (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:31 PM

Aug 2019

Doesn’t reflect anything other than ia state fair attendees

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

peggysue2

(10,836 posts)

19. LOL!!

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:25 PM

Aug 2019

The headline could have read: Biden holds an 8 point lead but oh no, he's losing while he's winning. Meanwhile Warren who reportedly was surging, knocking Biden off his pins in Iowa is down 9 points.

Hello????

Granted, this is a very unscientific poll, more fun than anything else. But this certainly is a lesson in 'framing,' when you take the winner and magically make him/her the loser.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

24. Losing while winning, that's good!

Reply to peggysue2 (Reply #19)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:49 PM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)

3. "That margin reflects a closer contest than most national polls" LOL

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:41 AM

Aug 2019

It reflects people who were there who also dropped a kernel in a jar.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

6. No kidding!

Reply to wyldwolf (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:43 AM

Aug 2019

lol It just shows how much disproportional attention Iowa gets.

But hey, Iowa and New Hampshire are sooo representative of the nation, they deserve to have enormous influence on Presidential politics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

7. Yeah this is the one where the front runner is supposed to get "informally" roasted

Reply to wyldwolf (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:44 AM

Aug 2019

but as usual Biden came out King Cob

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

10. Everyone is happy Biden got 24% in the Corn Poll

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #7)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:47 AM

Aug 2019

let's all celebrate!

It's just another example how much disproportional attention Iowa and New Hampshire get in Presidential politics.

people, it's the Corn Poll.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)

5. not only is it not scientific

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:43 AM

Aug 2019

Pete's number is way out of wack of the actually polls in Iowa. I saw a report on this and it said he is in the low single digits.

With that said I do believe Warren is gaining a lot of steam as Bernie starts to fade.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

9. "Biden rivals creamed in corn poll"

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:46 AM

Aug 2019

Fixed yer headline for ya!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

13. Everyone is celebrating Joe's awesome 24% in the Corn Poll! woooo

Reply to ucrdem (Reply #9)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:49 AM

Aug 2019

lol

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

14. It's dumb I'll give you that but hey it's still summer

Reply to bluewater (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:51 AM

Aug 2019

Let's savor the moment!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

11. Amended title: Iowa corn poll signals trouble for everyone but Biden.

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:48 AM

Aug 2019

And the poll's still dumb, of course.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Celerity

(43,435 posts)

16. Important update on the corn kernel poll

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:52 AM

Aug 2019

Link to tweet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

17. Seth and Wayne... neck and neck!

Reply to Celerity (Reply #16)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:54 AM

Aug 2019

nicely done!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Vegas Roller

(704 posts)

20. Meh

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:28 PM

Aug 2019

a big yawn

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)

22. Not really since there aren't many black folks in Iowa. nt

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:34 PM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Joe941

(2,848 posts)

23. Nothing to see here - move along.

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:50 PM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)

27. And who comes in first in that self-selecting poll?

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:14 PM

Aug 2019

Why, it's Joe Biden. He's first, ahead of his closest competitor by 8 points. So, suddenly he's losing?

I don't get it, see...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

honest.abe

(8,679 posts)

28. This is korney!

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:55 PM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

onecaliberal

(32,873 posts)

29. Iowa doesn't reflect America.

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:09 PM

Aug 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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