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question everything

(47,498 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:20 PM Aug 2019

Senior Voters, Some Wavering on Trump, Figure to Shape 2020 Election

The fastest-growing segment of the U.S. electorate is seniors. They supported Mr. Trump in 2016 but aren’t squarely in his camp as the 2020 campaign picks up. In 2016, despite polling showing an advantage for Democrat Hillary Clinton, voters over 65 backed Mr. Trump in the presidential election by a 52%-45% margin, according to exit polls. With still more than a year before next year’s election, 41% of seniors in a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll in June said they would prefer to see Mr. Trump re-elected, while 48% favored a generic Democrat to win in 2020. That comes as 46% of seniors said they approve of Mr. Trump’s performance in office, slightly higher than his 44% overall approval rating.

Among 18-to-34 year-olds, Mr. Trump’s approval rating is just 33%, the Wall Street Journal/NBC poll shows, and Democratic candidates have paid great attention to young voters this cycle, announcing support for plans like student-debt forgiveness. But the fastest-growing generation of voters isn’t millennials, it is seniors. Voters over age 65 are projected to make up nearly a quarter of the electorate in 2020, the highest such share since 1970, according to the Pew Research Center.

Seniors are the likeliest to actually cast ballots, with two-thirds of them voting in the 2018 midterms compared with 53% of the overall voting-age population. While the electorate in presidential years skews younger than in midterm ones, no Democratic presidential candidate has won seniors since Al Gore in 2000, and for the past five presidential-election cycles, every Republican nominee has won a larger share of seniors than his predecessor. Now, some voters who cast ballots for Mr. Trump in 2016 are put off by the president’s brash tweets and his lashing out at lawmakers who criticized him or opposed his actions.

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Democrats, too, face a potential hurdle with older voters: Many stances such as calls to decriminalize southern border crossings, or the embrace by some of the “socialist” label, alienate many seniors. In recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News polling, 42% of seniors said immigration “weakens America’s values,” compared with 24% of voters under 35. Older voters also have a strong aversion to “socialism,” with the label receiving a 37-percentage-point net negative rating, compared with a net negative 17-point rating among voters under 35.

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The Democratic candidates have begun making pitches to their older constituents in recent weeks, with Mr. Biden, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and others releasing policy plans targeted at seniors that address high prescription-drug costs, Medicare solvency, long-term care and other issues. Three-quarters of the candidates addressed older voters at AARP-sponsored events last month in Iowa, where more than half of attendees at the state’s caucuses early next year are expected to be older than 50.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/senior-voters-some-wavering-on-trump-figure-to-shape-2020-election-11565429401 (paid subscription)

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Not this senior, not this senior's spouse..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
1. I am ashamed for Senior's
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:25 PM
Aug 2019

To think that so many of them are this blind and selfish as to vote for this hateful man. It make me ashamed to be one myself. For those of you aren't voting for him congratulation you are decent caring people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
3. Socialism: "a net negative 17-point rating among voters under 35"
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:28 PM
Aug 2019

Socialism is a stone cold loser.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. Thank you! I'm not a Socialist. I don't support Socialists. I'm a Democrat. I vote for Democrats.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:13 PM
Aug 2019

It's just that simple.

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kimbutgar

(21,171 posts)
4. Those older voters need to be reminded that fat donniei is acting and doing a lot of Hitler like
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:47 PM
Aug 2019

Things. We need to talk to them about fat Donnie’s concentration camps, the othering of minorities, his racist policies and today doing away with protections for endangered species.
A lot of them were around in the 60’s and remember environmental disasters such as the Cayuga river in Ohio catching on fire. I remember seeing this on the news as a kid and it stuck with me.

And the repuke party wants to get rid of social security and Medicare.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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unc70

(6,115 posts)
5. Four more years worth of Boomers now over 65
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 02:59 PM
Aug 2019

That demographic change is slowly changing the voting patterns.

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. Socialism, social security and medicare would seem to be surefire lightning rod issues for seniors.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:02 PM
Aug 2019

We should have a huge advantage there.

Unfortunately for Dems, the primary season has a long way to go, and much damage to be done to those 3 strong issues for 2020.

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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Being older than dirt myself,
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:20 PM
Aug 2019

what seems to be the issues is,so many my fellow Seniors are still waiting for Father knows best to return. Well,that never was going to happen but,Frank Luntz and Newt Gingrich were able to make millions believe that fairy tale during Reagan's reign of terror.

It is all about the fear of Change,and what that change is going to look like. Murdoch Media tapped into that fear and exploited it to no end. Funny thing is,these same people are saying the same false stories that their parents peddled back in the day.







If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
9. F-ing Republican loving Seniors!
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:26 PM
Aug 2019

"no Democratic presidential candidate has won seniors since Al Gore in 2000, and for the past five presidential-election cycles, every Republican nominee has won a larger share of seniors than his predecessor."

What's wrong with the majority of seniors?!? wtf

John Kerry wasn't good enough for them?
Barrack Obama and Joe Biden were not good enough for them TWICE?
Hillary Clinton wasn't good enough enough for them?



If I were to vote in a presidential
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pamdb

(1,332 posts)
10. Old person here
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:50 PM
Aug 2019

I’m 68, my husband is 67 and all our friends are in the same age bracket. We are all democrats and would no more vote for trump than we would give up our social security checks! Voted for Clinton twice, we campaigned for him, voted for Gore, even though we didn’t care for Joe Lieberman, voted for Kerry, voted, and campaigned for Obama ( for his first term, then just gave donations) and Hillary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Senior here who would never vote for the Racist-in-Chief. But, I'd also make sure younger folks
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 04:07 PM
Aug 2019

have a better deal. After all, we may have paid for our Social Security and Medicare on paper, but it was used to pay the previous generation's benefits. Similarly, these younger folks will be paying our benefits, and they need to have a decent chance.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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sinkingfeeling

(51,466 posts)
12. I'm over 65 and would rather die than vote for the Orange POS.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 05:14 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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