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Trump can't break 40% against Democrats (Original Post) bluewater Aug 2019 OP
AND we don't know how many Russians "voted", either. calimary Aug 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #2
Don't trust the polls Lotusflower70 Aug 2019 #3
Josh Marshall at TPM has a "Prime Members only" discussion of this... RobertDevereaux Aug 2019 #4
Thx for posting this insider piece... I really like josh Marshall Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #5
My pleasure. TPM and DU are my two go-to places each day! RobertDevereaux Aug 2019 #6
Yep Gothmog Aug 2019 #7
How about this news? "Donald Trump's chances of winning are approaching zero" Lucid Dreamer Aug 2019 #8
Those polls were accurate in 2016. Trump is illegitimate. Claritie Pixie Aug 2019 #9
You are right. The point is Lucid Dreamer Aug 2019 #10
 

calimary

(81,383 posts)
1. AND we don't know how many Russians "voted", either.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 12:53 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to bluewater (Original post)

 

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
3. Don't trust the polls
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:03 PM
Aug 2019

Take nothing for granted. Vote like your life and the future depends on it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RobertDevereaux

(1,857 posts)
4. Josh Marshall at TPM has a "Prime Members only" discussion of this...
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:06 PM
Aug 2019

Here is his final paragraph:

"I've said before that I think conventional wisdom is simply wrong about the 2020 election. President Trump is in much worse shape than people realize. An incumbent President with what at least until the last few days of warning signs remains a strong economy who can’t get to 40% against any of his probable challengers is in bad shape. There’s [sic] just no two ways about that. There may be limited utility in spreading that word. You want to run like you’re behind. But running like you’re behind can also turn into an enervating defeatism. So it is worth focusing on just how poor a position he seems to be in."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,785 posts)
5. Thx for posting this insider piece... I really like josh Marshall
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:22 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RobertDevereaux

(1,857 posts)
6. My pleasure. TPM and DU are my two go-to places each day!
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 01:40 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
8. How about this news? "Donald Trump's chances of winning are approaching zero"
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 05:53 PM
Aug 2019
Donald Trump’s chances of winning are approaching zero

By Chris Cillizza and
Aaron Blake
October 24, 2016

The election is in 15 days. And the electoral map just keeps looking grimmer and grimmer for Donald Trump.
We are making three changes to The Fix map this week, all favoring Hillary Clinton.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/24/donald-trumps-chances-of-winning-are-approaching-zero/

So stop believing all these happy poll numbers. The happier they seem, the more dangerous they are!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
9. Those polls were accurate in 2016. Trump is illegitimate.
Fri Aug 16, 2019, 10:51 PM
Aug 2019

What we need to focus on is making sure it doesn't happen again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
10. You are right. The point is
Sat Aug 17, 2019, 12:41 AM
Aug 2019

that every time a poll comes out with "good news" it scares me that we will become complacent.

I remember that election morning when I kept telling myself, "We are IN! No way to lose. He has to 'run the table' to win the EC. Impossible."

Well, whether the polls were accurate or not; whether trump is legitimate or not, he is the one opening the mail addressed to President.

Pretty poll numbers don't comfort me, they scare me. I wished they scared everybody here-- but they don't.

Claritie, what we need to focus on is making sure it doesn't happen again. Keep preaching that.

[Just screaming into my pillow. Nobody can hear me.]

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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