And he's always right.

I don't believe this at all. Biden can beat trump. trump doesn't want to run against Biden. That says it all.

I don't believe Trump gives a fuck who he runs against. He'll slander anyone.

it did happen.

And, no one is "always right".. and plenty of people do listen to him.

This sounds plausible, though Obama will never confirm it.

"You don't have to do this" isn't telling Biden NOT to run. It's saying he's not obligated.

Say he would love to play poker with Trump. He shows his nervousness so plainly!

Trump had just called Warren his childish name again. Said he hit her so hard! The man has become a raving,ranting lunatic who keeps repeating himself. Has no new material.

I would think that a story about the former President expressing an opinion would be considered "news", but that's just me.

I leave that to others to play alternative history games and decide if that was a mistake or not.

Biden is 90+% likely to be our nominee for the general atm. There is no really viable option B atm, in terms of the centre to centre-left lane, which, IMHO is by far the surest path to defeating the ogre Rump.

I also might wager that if Biden listens to Obama, he may choose Deval Patrick (a big Obama favourite for years) as his VP, if Abrams does not want it.

African-American Women haven't had their say.

Why even bother with the process if it's been decided?

the OP decided to add his NY Times story, as though the NY Times is the authority

The New York Times who pushed the Judy Miller Lies, Called Obama's "hubris" the reason the republicans rejected climate changed, painted a falsely equivalency picture saying that the Democrats on the FEC were just as bad as the republicans

I still say it is bullshit, and so is the NY Times, after their coverage in 2016, and their complicity in helping propagate the LIE that the email investigation was reopened

It isn't Obama's style, and he would NOT be talking to journalist about this crap

Another Biden hit piece.

but thanks anyway

I love these unnamed sources. Just like yesterday how "sources" said Biden would not be campaigning as much because of his gaffes


As this goes on, I am getting more and more convinced who NOT to vote for in the primaries

Of the major newspapers, I prefer the Guardian

cheers

With Joe Biden.

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The two men spoke at least a half dozen times before Mr. Biden decided to run, and Mr. Obama took pains to cast his doubts about the campaign in personal terms.

“You don’t have to do this, Joe, you really don’t,” Mr. Obama told Mr. Biden earlier this year, according to a person familiar with the exchange.

Mr. Biden — who thinks he could have defeated Donald Trump four years ago — responded by telling Mr. Obama he could never forgive himself if he turned down a second shot at Mr. Trump.
Mr. Obama has said he will not make an endorsement in the primary, and has offered every candidate his counsel. But he has taken an active interest in the inner workings of his friend’s campaign, to an extent beyond anything offered to other candidates.
In his interactions with Mr. Biden — the pair had a quiet lunch in Washington last month — Mr. Obama has hammered away at the need for his campaign to expand his aging inner circle.

He has communicated his frustration that Mr. Biden’s closest advisers are too old and out of touch with the current political climate — urging him to include more younger aides, according to three Democrats with direct knowledge of the discussion.

In March, Mr. Obama took the unusual step of summoning Mr. Biden’s top campaign advisers, including the former White House communications director Anita Dunn and Mr. Biden’s longtime spokeswoman, Kate Bedingfield, to his Washington office for a briefing on the campaign’s digital and communications strategy with members of his own staff, including his senior adviser, Eric Schultz.
When they were done, Mr. Obama offered a pointed reminder, according to two people with knowledge of his comments:
Win or lose, they needed to make sure Mr. Biden did not “embarrass himself” or “damage his legacy” during the campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/us/politics/biden-obama-history.html?searchResultPosition=2

Isn’t he the one who got suspended for groping interns at the Times?

Biden is the one we need. If he picks a strong, progressive, Dem woman to run with, it will be a formidable ticket.

Then proceeds to post paragraph after paragraph... with

Wheh!!!

???

Edit to add: President Obama and VP Biden are way too close for that shit!..

because of his "gaffes"

I am more an more convinced that these suppossed unamed Democratic sources, are most likely from ONE of the suppossed Democratic campaigns

To say you don’t have to do this I can see that but to go as far as to say he didn’t want his legacy damaged by his VP and close personal friend? Nah.

I’d be willing to bet we will here from president Obama regarding this story... and find that it has been taken out of context

This would be something extremely private and unlikely for anyone to know even if it happened.

I give it better than even odds that at least one person on Obama's senior team is less than thrilled with the campaign Biden is running. If I'm right, I doubt they'd leak it without Pres O's tacit approval. Of course, that's just my opinion for what it's worth.

So, it seems someone on the inside is sending a definite message.

Brawaaaaaaa!

Obama 'reportedly' tried to . . .

As overheard by the fly on the wall. BUZZZZZZZZ

“You don’t have to do this, Joe, you really don’t,” Mr. Obama told Mr. Biden earlier this year, according to a person familiar with the exchange.

Mr. Biden — who thinks he could have defeated Donald Trump four years ago — responded by telling Mr. Obama he could never forgive himself if he turned down a second shot at Mr. Trump.

Mr. Obama has said he will not make an endorsement in the primary, and has offered every candidate his counsel. But he has taken an active interest in the inner workings of his friend’s campaign, to an extent beyond anything offered to other candidates.


In his interactions with Mr. Biden — the pair had a quiet lunch in Washington last month — Mr. Obama has hammered away at the need for his campaign to expand his aging inner circle.

He has communicated his frustration that Mr. Biden’s closest advisers are too old and out of touch with the current political climate — urging him to include more younger aides, according to three Democrats with direct knowledge of the discussion.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/us/politics/biden-obama-history.html

"You don't have to do this" does not equal "do not do this", even though I know that's the implication. Even if he did discourage him, I don't blame him, especially after what was done to Hillary. I always thought that Biden would have run in 2016 if it weren't for his son passing away. I find some of the language in this piece to be a bit suspect and editorializing.

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regret voting for Jill Stein against the DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE

THAT IS DISQUALIFYING

where he steps in with his ubiquitous ".. disqualifying.." mantra.

Mahalo, still_one

Cool story bro.

Looking at the Pros and Cons of a major life changing decision....

President Obama didn't say don't do it Joe...
So this is a healthy method of making a decision ..... Only a true friend goes there.

[during the selection process for VP back in 2008]

this is just like all of the other politicians that swear they are not running for president, like Obama. So he changed his mind and still had fire in his belly after eight years, I can't blame him for that. Maybe he thought that he would feel differently.

because?????

The two men spoke at least a half dozen times before Mr. Biden decided to run, and Mr. Obama took pains to cast his doubts about the campaign in personal terms.

“You don’t have to do this, Joe, you really don’t,” Mr. Obama told Mr. Biden earlier this year, according to a person familiar with the exchange.

Mr. Biden — who thinks he could have defeated Donald Trump four years ago — responded by telling Mr. Obama he could never forgive himself if he turned down a second shot at Mr. Trump.
Mr. Obama has said he will not make an endorsement in the primary, and has offered every candidate his counsel. But he has taken an active interest in the inner workings of his friend’s campaign, to an extent beyond anything offered to other candidates.
In his interactions with Mr. Biden — the pair had a quiet lunch in Washington last month — Mr. Obama has hammered away at the need for his campaign to expand his aging inner circle.

He has communicated his frustration that Mr. Biden’s closest advisers are too old and out of touch with the current political climate — urging him to include more younger aides, according to three Democrats with direct knowledge of the discussion.

In March, Mr. Obama took the unusual step of summoning Mr. Biden’s top campaign advisers, including the former White House communications director Anita Dunn and Mr. Biden’s longtime spokeswoman, Kate Bedingfield, to his Washington office for a briefing on the campaign’s digital and communications strategy with members of his own staff, including his senior adviser, Eric Schultz.
When they were done, Mr. Obama offered a pointed reminder, according to two people with knowledge of his comments:
Win or lose, they needed to make sure Mr. Biden did not “embarrass himself” or “damage his legacy” during the campaign.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/16/us/politics/biden-obama-history.html?searchResultPosition=2

smear against Biden they ran just months ago, before the story fell apart.

even after it was discredited?

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The one that has seen a 40% drop in digital subscriptions, keeping only cooking and travel... oh that one well then okay

Memo to mainstream journalists: Can the phony outrage -- Bernie is right about media bias
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287241777

What do you think? Always honest, about Joe & Bernie?

Then, with that poster, the bias is just fine.

So of course I'm 100% biased because she's the best. B.Liver!

So what do you think? Media bias or honest? Or both?

than his favorite candidate.

At least that seems to be his position. I don't know how else to interpret his posts, especially the ones referring to popcorn since he's enjoying this hit piece attacking Biden so much.

Like you, I see that clearly.

when it's trying to bring down Joe Biden, the Frontrunner.. then we're all suppose to believe this bizarre plot.



Memo to mainstream journalists: Can the phony outrage -- Bernie is right about media bias

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287241777

See? As easy as pie!

Link to tweet

either:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

On edit: Someone answered my query up thread.

I've seen tweets from people who are shocked that the Times is letting Thrush do this kind of story. But they seem to want hit pieces attacking Biden...

promoting a NYT story (which that Mediaite article is about) from a reporter who's shown past bias against Biden, and from a paper that ran a hit piece on Biden earlier this year that was basically leaked to them by Rudy Giuliani, and then discredited.

And btw, the Times reporter who wrote this new hit piece has also been discredited, since he's had a history of harassing women, including at Politico where your daughter works.

So why are you posting this trash?

We must be ready for it!

BTW, salty, buttery popcorn is so tasty! Munch.....

I hear those are a sure sign of a losing argument.

Ummmy salty, buttery hot popcorn is the best!

Term ad hominem. It doesn’t seem you do.

If you have an opinion no one is stopping you from posting it, regardless of the number of disputed responses.

Oh I can see it coming more snarky emoji

Hey! Are you one of my numerous relatives?

If so, or not. Have fun!

Have fun anyway!

P.S. Honestly, are you related to me?

Honestly, are you paranoid about your relatives being here?

Oh nooooooooooo!

(Holly is coming home tomorrow and she is terrified of me putting her in a bad light. And I can't imagine her thinking that!)

(sarcasm little smiley guy)

Please have fun! (gulp)

...little fist bump smiley peeps to ya!

Nope not a family member

But I assume that, in the interests of the fairness you've argued for elsewhere, if a reporter who's a known and discredited sexual harasser with a long history of nasty remarks and articles about Bernie Sanders does an anonymously sourced hit piece on Sanders and publishes it in a rag with a history of attacking Sanders and Democrats, you'll approve of that being done.

Since you're so clearly delighted with this slimy hit piece on Biden.

Enjoy your popcorn.

My skin is thick enough for both of us!

Deep down people knows that the NY Times article is accurate.

And the truth is hard to deal with if a person is too heavily invested in a particular candidate.