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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:12 AM Aug 2019

The Quiet Death of the "White Bernie Bro" Attack

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/08/bernie-sanders-white-bernie-bro-race-2020-democratic-primary-pew-poll

BY
CARL BEIJER

The media used to say Bernie Sanders’s coalition was too white and male. Now that that’s so obviously not true, they should admit why they really hate Bernie — his class politics



Bernie Sanders faced ferocious criticism in the media throughout the 2016 primaries — and central to that critique was what the Washington Post called Bernie Sanders’s big black-voter problem. Black voters, we were told, decisively rejected Sanders’s politics — and, by extension, left flank challenges to the Democratic establishment. And the proof was in the polls: overwhelming majorities of black voters preferred Hillary Clinton.

It’s impossible to overstate how much coverage this narrative received in just about every major outlet you can name: the New York Times, the Washington Post (again), Vox, Slate, Time, MSNBC, In These Times, the Atlantic, and so on. In all of these articles, we find variations on the same argument that Joan Walsh rehearsed in the Nation:

“Sanders has won whites by crafting a class-based appeal that minimizes, and sometimes even diminishes, the role that racism plays in creating American social and economic inequality .?.?.? In 2016, all of these calculations have hurt him with the Democratic base.”

Was it this — something about his politics — that explained his polling among black voters? That was certainly conventional wisdom among almost all of the media. But in the New Republic, Jamil Smith flagged a different explanation: the Sanders campaign insisted that he was “simply less familiar to voters of color than Clinton.” And this, I noted at the time, was borne out by the data, which showed Bernie’s favorability and preference among black voters rising in direct proportion to his name recognition:




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JI7

(89,252 posts)
1. what's with this martyr thing ?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:14 AM
Aug 2019
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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
3. It really makes you want to vote for poor Bernie, doesn't it?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:21 AM
Aug 2019
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Autumn

(45,107 posts)
2. That's impossible... Fake news... Because Bernie...
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:17 AM
Aug 2019
Good read. Thanks.
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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
4. So, the media is to "blame" for Clinton winning black voters overwhelmingly?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:22 AM
Aug 2019

Not sure I agree with the author's detective work there.

Here's a thought: maybe they just preferred Clinton and her stances on issues that were important to them.

Nah.

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ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
5. Ah yes. Jacobin.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:25 AM
Aug 2019

I’m remembering The “Economic justice is really real and Social justice is actually less real and will just automatically happen with Economic justice” argument.

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comradebillyboy

(10,154 posts)
13. What was a Jacobin?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:47 AM
Aug 2019
Jacobin a member of a democratic club established in Paris in 1789. The Jacobins were the most radical and ruthless of the political groups formed in the wake of the French Revolution, and in association with Robespierre they instituted the Terror of 1793–4.


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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
15. Second pro Bernie Jacobin piece posted here this morning...
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 11:27 AM
Aug 2019

but don't call Bernie a socialist!



Sid

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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Gaze around at the people at his next rally. The general audience, not the plants behind him.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:33 AM
Aug 2019
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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
7. Attacking the media again??
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:34 AM
Aug 2019

Bernie and his gang know the end is near and they are desperately trying to gain attention with these ridiculous attacks on the media.

Regarding the "Bernie Bro" stuff.. yes its probably dead now that there are more and better candidates for that demographic to go to.

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yerop

(89 posts)
8. a good & rational article
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:39 AM
Aug 2019

thank you

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Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
10. Kicked and recommended.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 09:57 AM
Aug 2019

Thanks for the thread Gj.

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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
11. Lots of jacobin articles popping up lmao.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:16 AM
Aug 2019

Did I miss the memo?

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bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
12. We need more News we can trust like CNN, NYT, MSNBC, right?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 10:40 AM
Aug 2019
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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
14. The OP isn't news; it's opinion.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 11:00 AM
Aug 2019

It's also based on a lot of faulty premises, the most obvious being that the author doesn't seem to understand that there was more to Clinton's preference among black voters than media influence.

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mcar

(42,334 posts)
16. Another media piece about the media not giving Sanders the attention he deserves?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 11:38 AM
Aug 2019
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JudyM

(29,251 posts)
17. Interesting info.
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 11:57 AM
Aug 2019
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kcr

(15,317 posts)
18. Why didn't they post this chart instead, by the same pollster?
Sun Aug 18, 2019, 12:46 PM
Aug 2019

<a href="https://www.people-press.org/2019/08/16/most-democrats-are-excited-by-several-2020-candidates-not-just-their-top-choice/pp_2019-08-16_2020-democratic-candidates_0-03-2/"><img width="1024" height="1018" src="?w=1024" class="attachment-large size-large" alt="Democratic primary preferences vary widely by age, education, and religious affiliation" /></a>




Bernie doesn't help by his campaign hiring choices and doing things like going on the Joe Rogan show.

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