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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:22 PM Aug 2019

Joe Biden: 'I think almost anybody' in 2020 Democratic field could be the president

For former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 presidential campaign has been focused primarily on one question: Who is best to beat President Donald Trump?

His campaign's answer: Joe Biden is.

But, in an interview for a podcast with the Washington Post's Jonathan Capehart, Biden seemed on the verge of undermining his own camp's argument in favor of his electability relative to the rest of the 2020 Democratic primary field.

Capehart, an opinion writer for the Post who is also African American, asked Biden whether he believes that it’s “gonna take an old white person to beat an old white person” and “old school against old school” when discussing the African American community's concern over Trump’s re-election.

Biden responded: “They’d be looking for someone who maybe done them as good a chance of beating Trump, but understands the problems and the opportunities that they face.”

“... when the assertion is made that ... well, the reason the only person that can beat Trump is, “an old white guy.” I just think that ... I think there’s other people in the race who can beat Trump,” Biden continued.

“Who?” Capehart asked.

“Well, I think almost anybody,” Biden answered. “They’d all make a better president than Trump, no matter who’s left in the race.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/08/30/joe-biden-i-think-almost-anybody-could-beat-donald-trump-2020/2168099001/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Joe Biden: 'I think almost anybody' in 2020 Democratic field could be the president (Original Post) bluewater Aug 2019 OP
And if he said he doesn't think some could be president he'd be bashed for that. George II Aug 2019 #1
Are you accusing Joe of being disingenuous? That he did not really mean what he said?!? bluewater Aug 2019 #2
yup, it seems to come from same usual suspects. How dare Biden be gracious still_one Aug 2019 #4
Biden was very honest and gracious telling the press all the Dems could defeat Trump. bluewater Aug 2019 #6
Sure thing. That is why you highlighted what you highlighted, to demonstrate "just how gracious and still_one Aug 2019 #7
Yes, the highlights where he says almost all Dems would defeat Trump. bluewater Aug 2019 #8
I was referring to this: "undermining his own camp's argument in favor of his electability relative still_one Aug 2019 #9
It's in there now, I was in the middle of edits in another tab. bluewater Aug 2019 #11
Only A Narcissist Would Call His Fellow Party Rivals Unqualified TomCADem Aug 2019 #12
Indeed.. Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #15
+1 emulatorloo Aug 2019 #27
Joe gets a obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2019 #3
He is correct mcar Aug 2019 #5
For some it is... obviously Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #13
Something about this claim doesn't add up Otto Lidenbrock Aug 2019 #10
Nailed it! The AA voter is savvy, not easily fooled. They see a leader that will support their cause Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #14
National polls have been saying that for at least procon Aug 2019 #16
this is getting laughable and tiresome quickesst Aug 2019 #17
It's amusing that you think this is a problem. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #18
Who thinks Joe being honest is a problem? bluewater Aug 2019 #23
"...I think there's other people in the race who can beat Trump," Biden continued." myohmy2 Aug 2019 #19
great answer treestar Aug 2019 #20
So, are we now going to go after Biden for being gracious in his campaign? MineralMan Aug 2019 #21
Who's going after Biden? There are only positive comments from everyone about his Honesty bluewater Aug 2019 #22
"almost" NurseJackie Aug 2019 #24
As usual, Joe is correct and it's gracious for him to say this andym Aug 2019 #25
Your'e not getting what you wanted with this. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #26
Well, now... MineralMan Aug 2019 #28
As they say... bluewater Aug 2019 #29
I do not read Tamil. MineralMan Sep 2019 #30
"Truth never damages a cause that is just." HeartlandProgressive Sep 2019 #31
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. And if he said he doesn't think some could be president he'd be bashed for that.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:29 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
2. Are you accusing Joe of being disingenuous? That he did not really mean what he said?!?
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:33 PM
Aug 2019

I believe Joe Biden when he says almost any of our 2020 Democratic candidates can beat Trump.

That was very honest and very gracious of him to say that to the press.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,382 posts)
4. yup, it seems to come from same usual suspects. How dare Biden be gracious
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:36 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
6. Biden was very honest and gracious telling the press all the Dems could defeat Trump.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:42 PM
Aug 2019

Let's not try to spin that.

He deserves credit for being extremely honest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,382 posts)
7. Sure thing. That is why you highlighted what you highlighted, to demonstrate "just how gracious and
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:47 PM
Aug 2019

honest he is"


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
8. Yes, the highlights where he says almost all Dems would defeat Trump.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:50 PM
Aug 2019

I think he was being incredibly honest and gracious when he said this to the press:


But, in an interview for a podcast with the Washington Post's Jonathan Capehart, Biden seemed on the verge of undermining his own camp's argument in favor of his electability relative to the rest of the 2020 Democratic primary field.
...

I just think that ... I think there’s other people in the race who can beat Trump,” Biden continued.


“Who?” Capehart asked.

“Well, I think almost anybody,” Biden answered.
“They’d all make a better president than Trump, no matter who’s left in the race.”


What's wrong with highlighting what Biden himself said? He was being very courageous and honest to go against his own camp's argument.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,382 posts)
9. I was referring to this: "undermining his own camp's argument in favor of his electability relative
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:54 PM
Aug 2019

to the rest of the 2020 Democratic primary field.

you really think are fooling anyone?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
11. It's in there now, I was in the middle of edits in another tab.
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:57 PM
Aug 2019

That part strengthens my argument why Biden deserves credit for being so honest.

So, again, I think it was very honest and gracious for Joe Biden to say that almost all our Democratic candidates would defeat Trump ESPECIALLY since this went against his own camp's arguments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
12. Only A Narcissist Would Call His Fellow Party Rivals Unqualified
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:59 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Kudos to Biden for not going out of his way to trash his rivals to win the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

obnoxiousdrunk

(2,910 posts)
3. Joe gets a
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:34 PM
Aug 2019

A+ for honesty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mcar

(42,372 posts)
5. He is correct
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:40 PM
Aug 2019

Is this supposed to be an issue?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
13. For some it is... obviously
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:05 PM
Aug 2019

This is thread #2 about this. The other one is full of great positive comments from DU’ers supporting different candidates about Biden’s comments.

Biden is not just about himself. of course he’s in it to win, but if he’s not the nominee he will work to support all Dems up and down the ballot.

A great positive force for the country

More at the link


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287260380

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
10. Something about this claim doesn't add up
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:57 PM
Aug 2019
Capehart, an opinion writer for the Post who is also African American, asked Biden whether he believes that it’s “gonna take an old white person to beat an old white person” and “old school against old school” when discussing the African American community's concern over Trump’s re-election.


Bernie is an old white person. Older than Joe. African Americans are therefore gravitating to Joe in a larger scale because of something else. Maybe they just like his platform better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

procon

(15,805 posts)
16. National polls have been saying that for at least
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:29 PM
Aug 2019

a week now. Almost any Dem candidate polls better than Trump. So why do we get all this gleeful grade school pile on when Biden repeats the news andb says our candidates beat Trump?

The corporate press has their fat thumb on the scale, trying to tilt the Dem primary win to another candidate that is better aligned with their boardroom plans. Whoever that might be is still a wildcard, but it's clearly not Biden, and the goal might even be a Republican.

The point being the press should not be in the business of creating or rewriting the news to match their corporate agenda, nor should Dems be carry their water and enabling the wealthy oligarchs to undermine our candidates.

Be wary of these attacks against Biden. There's still an army of Russian trolls running loose in the intertubes and stirring the same pot to keep thier guy Trump in office.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
17. this is getting laughable and tiresome
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 12:06 AM
Aug 2019

There are polls almost daily which show numerous candidates who on a head-to-head basis today could beat Trump. Why would anybody make a big deal out of Joe Biden stating the obvious? It's just.....

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primary today, I would vote for:
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TwilightZone

(25,478 posts)
18. It's amusing that you think this is a problem.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 12:19 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
23. Who thinks Joe being honest is a problem?
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:39 AM
Aug 2019

He was both gracious and honest for telling the truth that almost any of our Democratic 2020 candidates can beat trump.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

myohmy2

(3,176 posts)
19. "...I think there's other people in the race who can beat Trump," Biden continued."
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:25 AM
Aug 2019

...a brutally honest observation...

...thank you Joe...

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. great answer
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 09:40 AM
Aug 2019

now let's ask some of the others.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
21. So, are we now going to go after Biden for being gracious in his campaign?
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:06 AM
Aug 2019

What he is saying is that there are several good Democratic candidates. He's being a good Democrat in doing so.

That doesn't mean that he thinks anyone is more likely to win than he is. It's just a nice thing to say about his primary opponents.

For pete's sake!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
22. Who's going after Biden? There are only positive comments from everyone about his Honesty
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:36 AM
Aug 2019

and graciousness.

Joe was honest and gracious enough to go against his own's camp's electability argument, and he deserves praise for that.

Even David Axelrod admits this:




So Joe deserves extra praise for his honesty and graciousness.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

andym

(5,445 posts)
25. As usual, Joe is correct and it's gracious for him to say this
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 04:26 PM
Aug 2019

I do think that Joe Biden's ability to communicate warmth and compassion is as strong as Obama's and Clinton's and he would be able to do much to repair the damage Trump and done to America's collective psyche.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
26. Your'e not getting what you wanted with this. NT
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 04:31 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
28. Well, now...
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 08:46 PM
Aug 2019
молодец!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
29. As they say...
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 09:51 PM
Aug 2019

உண்மை என்னவென்றால் உண்மைதான்



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
30. I do not read Tamil.
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:24 AM
Sep 2019

Google, however, does. Truth is truth, but can be used for either good or evil.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 
31. "Truth never damages a cause that is just."
Sun Sep 1, 2019, 10:45 AM
Sep 2019

That's a fact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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