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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,328 posts) Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:13 PM Sep 2019

Why Trump's Ukraine scandal could backfire on Biden

Why Trump’s Ukraine scandal could backfire on Biden
An extended discussion about his son’s business dealings isn’t helpful to Biden’s electability argument.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/21/trump-ukraine-biden-1507051

Joe Biden had a chance to excoriate Donald Trump on Friday after a blockbuster report detailed how the president pushed Ukrainian investigators to investigate Biden’s son.

Instead, Biden was circumspect and measured in a comment to reporters.

Only hours later, after Biden and his advisors weighed more facts and after Democrats renewed calls for impeaching Trump, did the former vice president’s campaign issue a broader and stronger statement.

The time it took Biden to unleash his tougher comments – which stopped just short of urging impeachment — offered an insight into the political sensitivities surrounding the situation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Why Trump's Ukraine scandal could backfire on Biden (Original Post) Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 OP

Politico crap to stir up shit. pwb Sep 2019 #1

Im not so sure backtoblue Sep 2019 #2

Where did I read, at140 Sep 2019 #3

I think the result will be the opposite. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #4

Thank you, TVO! Cha Sep 2019 #6

Speaking of Vogel.. Cha Sep 2019 #7

I'm glad someone else noticed. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #8

Wow! Yeah, like Soledad O'Brien.. Cha Sep 2019 #9

Or, "Scooter Libby's outing of a CIA agent raises disturbing questions The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #10

That's what the NYT wanted.. Two more.. Cha Sep 2019 #13

So far, Biden has handled it well. Hoyt Sep 2019 #5

Nice try x 4 nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #11

;) sheshe2 Sep 2019 #12

pwb

(11,272 posts)

1. Politico crap to stir up shit.

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:14 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)

2. Im not so sure

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:19 PM

Sep 2019

Waiting for more facts is a pretty good thing to do before committing to an intense reaction.

Joe's not my first choice, but i seriously see this as an unnecessary hit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

at140

(6,110 posts)

3. Where did I read,

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:21 PM

Sep 2019

this is Trumpy's sneaky attempt to get media to focus on Biden's Ukraine connection?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,704 posts)

4. I think the result will be the opposite.

Reply to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:30 PM

Sep 2019

This whole thing, including some media reporting (don't get me started on Ken Vogel, NYT), has pissed me off so much that I sent Biden a contribution, and I haven't even settled on a candidate and hadn't planned on contributing to anybody until the primaries were in full swing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

6. Thank you, TVO!

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:46 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

7. Speaking of Vogel..

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:51 PM

Sep 2019

Link to tweet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,704 posts)

8. I'm glad someone else noticed.

Reply to Cha (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 06:58 PM

Sep 2019

I heard the interview on the radio in the car and I damn near drove off the road.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,240 posts)

9. Wow! Yeah, like Soledad O'Brien..

Reply to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 07:07 PM

Sep 2019

Link to tweet

Yay!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,704 posts)

10. Or, "Scooter Libby's outing of a CIA agent raises disturbing questions

Reply to Cha (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 21, 2019, 07:13 PM

Sep 2019

about Valerie Plame."

Or, "the investigation of Harvey Weinstein raises disturbing questions about his eighty accusers."

Or, "Russian hacking of the DNC raises disturbing questions about Hillary Clinton." (Oh, wait, they all really did that).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden