Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
64 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Residue? This is disgusting. (Original Post) melman Sep 2019 OP
That's it. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #1
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2019 #2
Might be related to residual in regression analysis unc70 Sep 2019 #3
Yup. The nerd Nate Silver (who I like) used poor choice of words, unintentionally I'm sure. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #30
I don't get it. George II Sep 2019 #4
Ask me if I'm shocked melman Sep 2019 #5
Why? George II Sep 2019 #8
Silver's worse than awkward phrasing unintentionally equates "residue" with people of color. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #32
His residual support is evaporating, too. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #6
Yes, Elizabeth in that case. KPN Sep 2019 #18
Her chances are improving. It remains to be seen what happens. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #37
I actually agree with you on that. KPN Sep 2019 #56
Oh for the love of pete. Being shocked is a bit of a stretch, but you just go on. Hekate Sep 2019 #7
Faux shock. As the BS campaign continues to decline and crater... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #9
Nate Silver is a math/statistics guy PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #10
Indeed it is... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #13
That isn't how mathematicians use the term 'residue.' Eric J in MN Sep 2019 #15
Nope, Silver works w regression analysis, not complex analysis; different field of math. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #35
Where I come from it's a reference to a bag of popcorn, i.e., "the dust at the bottom of the bag"!! George II Sep 2019 #16
Perhaps you like to be equated with dust at bottom of a bag. Many people do not laugh when they are Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #36
Who mentioned race in the post you're responding to? Certainly not I. George II Sep 2019 #38
You mentioned the negative of "residue". This whole thread is about the "residue" error / faux pas. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #40
Nate Silver used the word "residue" to refer to the Sanders supporters remaining.... George II Sep 2019 #55
So. You did not see Nate Silver state "white liberals". Or you do not see that as race. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #58
Did he say ALL white liberals? Do you really think he meant that the only supporters that Sanders... George II Sep 2019 #63
Disgusting? Please, his analysis is accurate. tritsofme Sep 2019 #11
Eventually the party will need to be united. Aaron Pereira Sep 2019 #12
Isn't that what "briebrie" said? George II Sep 2019 #14
Obvious typo melman Sep 2019 #17
Typo? From a National Press Secretary of a major political campaign? If that's true.... George II Sep 2019 #41
omg, brie. Cha Sep 2019 #19
Oopf! (She voted for Jill Stein, right?) NurseJackie Sep 2019 #47
Yes you're right. You should check her daily stream of tweets, almost non-stop attacks.... George II Sep 2019 #48
She seems like a total hack to me. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #49
I think David Sirota conducts daily seminars, teaching her and Turner "techniques".... George II Sep 2019 #52
When one has no positive light to shine ... nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #54
It's cute watching Sanders supporters get upset over the term "residue"... W_HAMILTON Sep 2019 #20
Yes. it is disgusting. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #21
residue... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #22
There are more than one definitions of "residue": George II Sep 2019 #50
I refuse to refer to leftover Bernie Bros. as "Residudes". oasis Sep 2019 #23
Roflmao. MrsCoffee Sep 2019 #24
Good one! betsuni Sep 2019 #28
Lol! cwydro Sep 2019 #29
Lol! nt ecstatic Sep 2019 #42
haha PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #44
Oh dear! ROFL! NurseJackie Sep 2019 #51
LOL Gothmog Sep 2019 #62
"residue of what's left" - residue already means "the part that's left" so that phrase is PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #25
It's not the redundancy, it's the equating of "residue" with PoC; "residue" usually is unwanted. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #34
Remains of the day, Freud's Tagesreste (the day's residues), Mill's Theory of Residues. betsuni Sep 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Sep 2019 #27
Stopping in to see if there is any residue of outrage... TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #31
Par for the course RandiFan1290 Sep 2019 #33
Thank you for the link. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2019 #39
From my twitter feed Gothmog Sep 2019 #43
lol Cha Sep 2019 #45
Attacking Nate and the media is a great use of time Gothmog Sep 2019 #61
A new week, a new handful thrown at the wall in the hope it sticks. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #46
Meh ... this is not complain-worthy nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #53
Agreed- Gothmog Sep 2019 #64
Oh look, twitter is outraged at something again n/t Devil Child Sep 2019 #57
The Buttigieg and Harris campaigns have an issue attracting African American voters... brooklynite Sep 2019 #59
Is what that tweet points out? melman Sep 2019 #60
 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
1. That's it.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:49 PM
Sep 2019

Nate isn’t getting my vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,425 posts)
2. Kicked and recommended.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:51 PM
Sep 2019

Thanks for the thread melman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

unc70

(6,121 posts)
3. Might be related to residual in regression analysis
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 10:55 PM
Sep 2019

I use the term residuals rather than residue, but do recall colleagues using the latter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
30. Yup. The nerd Nate Silver (who I like) used poor choice of words, unintentionally I'm sure. . . nt
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 06:28 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
5. Ask me if I'm shocked
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:37 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
32. Silver's worse than awkward phrasing unintentionally equates "residue" with people of color.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 06:34 AM
Sep 2019

Take Bernie supporters, subtract out many of the white liberals, and those that remain will just by the arithmetic be less white, more populated with people of color. Those that remain could be called the "residue" in a cold clinical sense, but it is too demeaning and too resonant with historical discrimination to be used for that purpose and Silver should have chosen a term with a less negative connotation, such as "those remaining".

Silver's point of course is that Bernie has not attracted more people of color but instead has lost whites.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. His residual support is evaporating, too.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:38 PM
Sep 2019

Good. The sooner he's out of the race, the sooner DEMOCRATS can unite around OUR party's nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,662 posts)
18. Yes, Elizabeth in that case.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:22 AM
Sep 2019

Woo hoo! I'm in!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
37. Her chances are improving. It remains to be seen what happens.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 08:28 AM
Sep 2019

But one thing that's easy to predict: BS will NOT be the DEMOCRATIC party's nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,662 posts)
56. I actually agree with you on that.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:19 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hekate

(90,829 posts)
7. Oh for the love of pete. Being shocked is a bit of a stretch, but you just go on.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:39 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Faux shock. As the BS campaign continues to decline and crater...
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:42 PM
Sep 2019

... shock and outrage over nothing is pretty much all that's left. Sigh.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
10. Nate Silver is a math/statistics guy
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:42 PM
Sep 2019

In math, residue and residual are technical terms for "remainder."


Much ado about nothing

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. Indeed it is...
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:47 PM
Sep 2019

... but what else have they got?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
15. That isn't how mathematicians use the term 'residue.'
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:52 PM
Sep 2019

"In mathematics, more specifically complex analysis, the residue is a complex number proportional to the contour integral of a meromorphic function along a path enclosing one of its singularities. (More generally, residues can be calculated for any function f : C ∖ { a k } k ? C {displaystyle f:mathbb {C} setminus {a_{k}}_{k}rightarrow mathbb {C} } f:mathbb {C} setminus {a_{k}}_{k}rightarrow mathbb {C} that is holomorphic except at the discrete points {ak}k, even if some of them are essential singularities.)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residue_(complex_analysis)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
35. Nope, Silver works w regression analysis, not complex analysis; different field of math.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 06:45 AM
Sep 2019

In statistics, with regression analysis, after you remove the amount of the estimated curve matching the data, the amount left at each data point is known as the "residuals".

Complex analysis is a branch of mathematics involving fluid flow and field theory and is distant from statistics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errors_and_residuals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_analysis

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Where I come from it's a reference to a bag of popcorn, i.e., "the dust at the bottom of the bag"!!
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:55 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
36. Perhaps you like to be equated with dust at bottom of a bag. Many people do not laugh when they are
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 06:48 AM
Sep 2019

... repeatedly, throughout history, simply because they are people of colour.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. Who mentioned race in the post you're responding to? Certainly not I.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 08:42 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
40. You mentioned the negative of "residue". This whole thread is about the "residue" error / faux pas.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:10 AM
Sep 2019

You made a "rofl" point of emphasizing the definition of residue by highlighting one of the less negative examples. As if to make light of the racial equation Nate Silver inadvertently made in his tweet. Read his tweet again.

Residue is more frequently discarded or called disgusting than it is eaten. Coffee grounds are residue, and so are dog poop, plastic collected for recycling, and mine tailing ponds.

People of colour are sick and tired of being equated with unwanted trash. For you to make light of that with rofl emoticons and uncomprehending posts ("I don't get it" ) is actually an opportunity for you to get a bit more "woke".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
55. Nate Silver used the word "residue" to refer to the Sanders supporters remaining....
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:18 PM
Sep 2019

....after many of them switch to Warren. He did NOT specify race, religion, sexual orientation, or anything else, just that they are more "diverse" (that's the word he used)

"Diverse" means white, black, brown, Asian (btw, Nina Turner used the offensive word "yellow" to referr to Asians a couple of weeks ago, with no uproar from BS' supporters!), all religions, all sexual orientations, etc.

Seems like the OP, Ms. Gray, and some of the posters here immediately jumped to the (incorrect) conclusion that he was only referring to people of color.

Why is that? Seems to me that those outraged have some explaining to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
58. So. You did not see Nate Silver state "white liberals". Or you do not see that as race.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:36 PM
Sep 2019

I did ask you to read his tweet again. I repeat that request.

His equation: Sanders_supporters = prev_Sanders_supporters minus "white liberals"

He called the Sanders_supporters (after subtracting the "white liberals" ) the "residue". At best (and also most likely) it was a clumsy choice of words by a nerd.

People of colour (non-whites) do not like to be called "residue" or lumped in a bin called residue, whether or not it was merely clumsy. I would have thought you would understand that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
63. Did he say ALL white liberals? Do you really think he meant that the only supporters that Sanders...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:34 PM
Sep 2019

...would have remaining when the "white liberals" leave is people of color?

People are making much more of this than they really should, I suspect because their preferred candidate is dropping in the polls and they're looking for any reason they can come up with to explain it.

Nate Silver's comment was NOT racially motivated, and most people did not see it that way - mostly because his "residue" included supporters of ALL races and demographics.

Finally, were you or any others equally "appalled" when it came out that Sanders blatantly spoke about blacks using the "N" word or Nina Turner referred to Asians a few weeks ago as "yellow people"?

Doubtful.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tritsofme

(17,400 posts)
11. Disgusting? Please, his analysis is accurate.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:44 PM
Sep 2019

“Residue” clearly refers to all of his residual supporters. If anything he was insulting all Bernie voters, not attacking minorities.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Aaron Pereira

(383 posts)
12. Eventually the party will need to be united.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:45 PM
Sep 2019

Seems like a very poor attitude if that's his goal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Isn't that what "briebrie" said?
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 11:50 PM
Sep 2019


At least she admits that the BS campaign is the "least working class" campaign. Does she really know what she said there?






Edit, she deleted her "this is disgusting" tweet, but here it is for everyone to judge (keeping in mind this is BS' NATIONAL PRESS SECRETARY!!!) - "least working class":

Again,

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
17. Obvious typo
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:16 AM
Sep 2019

Assuming that tweet is even real to begin with.


Sanders has the most working class support. This is indisputable.

--

An OpenSecrets review of campaign contributions — including those giving small amounts through the fundraising service ActBlue — reveals that among the 2020 Democrats, Sanders gets the most support from Americans in typically working-class jobs — and it isn’t close.

The Vermont senator is the top recipient among farmers, servers, social workers, retail workers, photographers, construction workers, truckers, nurses and drivers, among several other groups. Each of those professions — which don’t typically provide much campaign cash — earn near or below the median income, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/09/sanders-vs-warren-who-has-more-working-class-donors/





And btw. are you really trying to suggest 'least working class' would be a bad thing to you? lol


You do realize you have a rather lengthy post history that suggests otherwise, no?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. Typo? From a National Press Secretary of a major political campaign? If that's true....
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 09:18 AM
Sep 2019

...she should be fired.

Are you really trying to suggest you know what you think I'm trying to suggest?

By the way, from the FEC filings for the campaign, the highest numbers of contributions from those working came from (1-12 in order):

Software Engineer
Teacher
Engineer
Physician
Attorney
Professor
Sales
Consultant
Software Developer
RN
Financial Director
Lawyer

Not many "working class" occupations in that list.

On the other hand, for the occupations you provided, here are their ranks:

farmers - 97
servers - 53 ("server&quot , 575 ("food server&quot
social workers - 25
retail workers - 51
photographers - 62
construction workers - 132
truckers - 751
nurses - 10
drivers - 765

The devil is in the details!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
47. Oopf! (She voted for Jill Stein, right?)
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:03 AM
Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
48. Yes you're right. You should check her daily stream of tweets, almost non-stop attacks....
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:09 AM
Sep 2019

...on BS' opponents, mostly Biden and BS' greatest threat - Elizabeth Warren.

She changed her screen name yesterday: “Residue” for Bernie @briebriejoy

This is the woman who is the National Press Secretary of a major national political campaign. SMH.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
49. She seems like a total hack to me.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:13 AM
Sep 2019
This is the woman who is the National Press Secretary of a major national political campaign. SMH.
She seems like a total hack to me. I'd seriously have to question the judgement of anyone who would hire her for anything. Anyone who aspires for national office should have higher standards.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. I think David Sirota conducts daily seminars, teaching her and Turner "techniques"....
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:15 AM
Sep 2019

...he's used over the years.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
54. When one has no positive light to shine ... nt
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:17 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,873 posts)
20. It's cute watching Sanders supporters get upset over the term "residue"...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:39 AM
Sep 2019

...just a week or two after they were excusing Sanders for using the n-word in one his many books.

Is this their new strategy to salvage his floundering campaign? Is going after Nate freaking Silver going to win over many voters? LOL

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
21. Yes. it is disgusting.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 12:58 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

myohmy2

(3,177 posts)
22. residue...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 01:00 AM
Sep 2019

" res·i·due

/ˈrezəˌd(y)o͞o/

noun

noun: residue; plural noun: residues

a small amount of something that remains after the main part has gone or been taken or used.
"the fine residue left after the sorting of tea" "


...yep, that's me, residue...

...but residue can build and grow, strengthen and thicken with time...

...residues can cover unclean circumstances with change and alter the course of events...


...residues vote...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. There are more than one definitions of "residue":
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:13 AM
Sep 2019
the part of an estate that is left after the payment of charges, debts, and bequests. "the residue of the estate was divided equally among the cousins"
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,410 posts)
23. I refuse to refer to leftover Bernie Bros. as "Residudes".
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 01:01 AM
Sep 2019

I'm just not gonna do it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
29. Lol!
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 05:32 AM
Sep 2019

Well played!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
25. "residue of what's left" - residue already means "the part that's left" so that phrase is
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 01:55 AM
Sep 2019

redundant. Silver should have just written "the residue" rather than "the residue of what's left".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,045 posts)
34. It's not the redundancy, it's the equating of "residue" with PoC; "residue" usually is unwanted.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 06:38 AM
Sep 2019

He should have written "the remaining people" or "those remaining" or other neutral terms.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,638 posts)
26. Remains of the day, Freud's Tagesreste (the day's residues), Mill's Theory of Residues.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 05:10 AM
Sep 2019

Oh melman, stop trying to make residues racist. It's not going to happen. This is not JPR.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to melman (Original post)

 

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)
31. Stopping in to see if there is any residue of outrage...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 06:33 AM
Sep 2019

After this has had some time to sit. Possibly a small amount of outrage at the bottom of the barrel but not enough to try to reason with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandiFan1290

(6,245 posts)
33. Par for the course
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 06:36 AM
Sep 2019

reminiscent of the racist PUMA thugs

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
39. Thank you for the link.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 08:52 AM
Sep 2019

I won't be voting for Nate Silver in the primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,601 posts)
61. Attacking Nate and the media is a great use of time
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 04:15 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. A new week, a new handful thrown at the wall in the hope it sticks.
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 10:17 AM
Sep 2019

Another nothing-burger with weak-sauce for added flavor.

But I get it... find the worst meaning of all presented definitions, ignore the rest (context is often a truly inconvenient thing) and raise the fist righteously in the air.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
53. Meh ... this is not complain-worthy nt
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 11:15 AM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
57. Oh look, twitter is outraged at something again n/t
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 01:06 PM
Sep 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,740 posts)
59. The Buttigieg and Harris campaigns have an issue attracting African American voters...
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:45 PM
Sep 2019

...they don't whine when people point it out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
60. Is what that tweet points out?
Mon Sep 23, 2019, 02:53 PM
Sep 2019

That's an interesting interpretation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»Residue? This is disgust...