How could so many people be so dumb?

Biden needs to make a speech and set the record straight.

oh, come on. This is America.

Maybe the dumbest 'industrialized' country on the planet.

You are correct.

It's fucking infuriating.

The general public, as a whole, is too stupid to investigate or parse the details so Biden takes a hit simply because his name is constantly mentioned in this story.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=293517

Is like Biden - Ukraine-corruption? Yeah I think I saw or heard something about that.

I am not a psychologists, but I would suspect repetition helps create an imprint in our memory. Which is why Republicans do better at messaging - when on point they deliver the same measage.

I was reading some of the history on Hunter Biden, the guy has been busy during his life, doing things that cannot help his dad. He even started dating his brother's widow after the brother died...I don't know, I think people need to read on Hunter Biden's biography from articles here and there.

The MSM needs to stop adding the phrase, "no evidence has been found to establish any of this is true" because it implies there might be some evidence found in the future, when the truth is that it is a totally discredited and debunked conspiracy story.

As they say, repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. No matter what republican is answering which question to who on which media platform, the one common thread is corruption allegations on Biden. No matter what, no mater how ridiculous its seems at the moment, they are repeating it over and over and over again to convince a few more people that it is true every time they say it. It doesn't matter what question they are answering, they always talk about Biden and link his name to corruption. That's what they did with Hillary and that's what they're doing with Biden, and if Biden should fall, they'll do it to whoever takes his place.

Every time a GOP liar repeats the smears against Biden (or ANY Democratic candidate or figure), we immediately flood social media and local call-in shows with preposterous shit about Trump...thing is, it can't be true too - like the grabbing women, serial philanderer or constant bankruptcies.

I want to see stories about Trump punching Trudeau ina jealous rage after pictures of his wife eye fucking him again surface...

I want to hear everyone talk about how Donald Jr. is desperately having a sex change operation to get attention from his dad and how it drove his Fox strumpet to begin hitting on the Orange Blob to make Melania show human emotions instead of looking like Spock in drag...

I want to see Tiffany strip naked and run around the entry to Trump Tower yelling - "oh yeah Eric? Hold MY beer bitch!!!"

I want to hear stories of how Trump became confused and walked into the women's restroom in McDonald's and then fell asleep in a stall ... until someone called to police to report a large dead body in the bathroom...only to find out he was simply sleeping in the fetal position because he could not figure out where he was...

I want to hear stories about Ivanka finding Jared in bed with MBS and living under a death threat if she EVER utters a word to ANYONE...

I want to revive the pee-pee tape and claim that the new Hi-Def version shows Trump engaged in sexual acts with a pig, while Putin laughs as he is recording it and yelling "WOOOOO-HOOOO PIG, SOHEY!!!!" all while shaking his finger at trumpy Bear like a schoolmarm...

If they can keep making shit up and spewing it out no matter how ridiculous or debunked the claims are, well...then we can too. Besides, this kind of nonsense appeals to Trump voters on a visceral level...they can not get enough of the suffering of others to distract themselves from the horror that is a regular day in the life for them...

I hope we never stoop to their level. Ever.

Great. Just fucking great.


Oh, and I hope we're not naive enough to believe he won't do the SAME EXACT THING to whoever our nominee ends up being. God I have lowest-common-denominator politics.

This is an absolute failure on their part.

I remember well the day that Jon Stewart took down the Crossfire show, blasting the false equivalences that make everyone so fed up with the entire system - a result that suits the powerful elite just fine.

That poll indicates that whataboutism and other fallacies still hold sway. People that are buying into it are acting like mere news consumers munching on sound bytes rather than being vigilant and well-informed citizens. I expect that from Republicans, but for us Democrats, it is important to address this problem seriously.

I would hope that more people learn about the various fallacies and understand how they can be used to circumvent law and truth.

Maybe if it is brought up enough and the word gets around, we can counter that problem eventually. I think it is a primary issue in defeating the Republicans because that's the most important play in their game.

It is: This does NOT equal THAT. That's a separate issue. This is the actual topic right now. Focus on the offense at hand. Deflection is not appropriate here and now, etc.

It should be obvious to people, but the media tends to be rather complicit in this and that has to stop. I have seen a couple of hosts actually stick to their guns in this way when confronting it and it worked well.

Three years?

This has been going on since at least 1980.

but you are correct!

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put his idiot son at greater risk, not less.

the lie gets halfway around the world...

and even people who didn't really "believe" had some idea that there was a stain on her honor.

It's infuriating, but the GOP has always been good at this.

The media really has to figure out a way to say-- in real time-- "This is not true." Like, "Trump again made the false claim that--
"Trump lied again when he said that--

Start with the fact of the LYING, not tell the lie as if it's a fact first.

After the Iraq invasion took place, I naturally despised the Bush administration, but I was even angrier at the media. They actively enabled the despicable bastards with their cowardice and stupidity.

and that Biden was one of many..EU etc etc..who suggested Ukraine clean up their act..Ukraine has been a hotbed of corruption for years..

I am impressed it is only 1 in 5 Democrats believe "probable"...just like trying to bring the public along with an impeachment inquiry..the more people know..the more they agree....

Ukraine wants to be part of NATO..Russia opposes it...gee I wonder why....

He will survive this as well.

and that ridiculous Trump ad are adding fuel to the fire.

The ad should be removed forthwith and debunked by the useless talking heads. But will that happen? Rhetorical question.

They just want to plant the idea in peoples' minds that Biden did something dirty, doesn't matter if it's proven he did nothing wrong. They did the same with Benghazi and emails and even some ridiculous murder conspiracies to smear Hillary.

so they get their message out. Also, they are simply better at messaging for a public that thinks in sound bites and bumper stickers.

Okay. I get what you mean. The Democratic "leaning" network is full of Republicans and boot lickers.

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the impeachment process faces the public, this poll won't drive the law's view of Hunter or Joe at all, and won't drive the primary voting at all.

Competing polls have shown the larger public's views of Biden haven't been affected.

imo, that's how this news plays out eventually.

Trump is making up his own FAKE NEWS! again

candidate

to follow the same stupidity as the false Hillary accusations? Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

It is this stupid thinking that helped trump get in. I really am starting to think that some of our own ( Democrats ) are as stupid as trumps base.

It seems that we haven't learned anything since 2016.