Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMedian life expectancy for someone 75 or older who's had a heart attack: 3.1 years.
https://www.cardiovascularbusiness.com/topics/acute-coronary-syndrome/study-65-older-mi-patients-die-within-8-yearsAbout two-thirds of patients older than 65 who experience a myocardial infarction (MI) die within eight years, according to a new studyand nearly half die in that timeframe even if they receive percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI) or coronary artery bypass graft (CABG) surgery.
From a healthcare perspective, these statistics are sobering, lead author Ajar Kochar, MD, with Duke Clinical Research Institute, and colleagues wrote in the Journal of the American Heart Association. These findings should lead to reflections on appropriate utilization and optimal dosing of secondary prevention therapies, along with revascularization when indicated for older patients with MI. Novel medication approaches to secondary prevention may be of particular interest to older patients with MI.
The analysis contained almost 23,000 patients from the CRUSADE registry who were treated at 344 U.S. hospitals from 2004 to 2006. Patients were a median of 77 years old at baseline, 52.5 percent were male and 13.3 percent were nonwhite.
In the overall cohort, the median survival was 4.8 years, including 8.2 years for those aged 65 to 74 and 3.1 years for people over 75. Eight-year mortality rates were 65 percent overall, 49 percent for those undergoing PCI and 46 percent for CABG patients.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,000 posts)lived more than two decades after that.
The fact Sanders was in good enough shape to leave the hospital so quickly and plan on returning to campaigning should tell you that median survival statistics won't apply to him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I can't imagine that's good for anybody who just suffered a heart attack at nearly 80 years old.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)There are so many highs & lows and one thing could derail a campaign. He has been handling the stresses well. I don't know how can deal with everything thrown his way and have such a positive outlook.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)My family has been blessed so I don't have that type of personal reference.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)And thank you for posting.
I hope lots of people really think about this statistic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pink
(497 posts)The first thing that came to mind was that Biden is in the same age group. I don't think all the ranting and raving by Trump will effect Biden's chances too much in the primaries, however, Sanders' heart attack brings home the awareness of the mortality for that age group. Sanders may have done Biden's chances more harm than Trump could have.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)Plus, Biden seems to get confused about basic facts rather easily these days.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I have been out of the loop lately.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,861 posts)but I do not watch news obsessively. Don't own a regular TV, which believe, is the very best thing. People here are complaining bitterly about certain ads they are seeing on major news channels. I never see any of those ads, which keeps me vastly calmer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Age, diet, other medical problems can all factor in.
You could be lucky and beat all the odds, who knows
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,163 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
certainot
(9,090 posts)you're gonna die
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....about 10 years ago, and had a heart pump installed. Then he had that one replaced a few months ago.
He'll be 75 years old next month! Thankfully there are exceptions to these studies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Boomer
(4,168 posts)He just falls into the smaller percentage group that survives longer. Right in line with the stats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....are 92 and 90.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
andym
(5,444 posts)who had his first heart attacks at age 37 and then had quite a few more. He is still alive at 78 with a transplanted heart. He must be quite the outlier.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
certainot
(9,090 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
napi21
(45,806 posts)itself, he's now living with a heart the age of the donor.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicblind
(4,484 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... statistically speaking. I'm kinda hoping for a 2-term president.
Speaking for myself only... those survival rate numbers aren't very comforting or reassuring. I can't see myself supporting any candidate for a national office that he or she (again) statistically speaking, will unlikely complete.
If the general consensus among lawmakers is the same (particularly the opposition party) then that president will be viewed by them as a "lame duck" president (ie: in their final term) and no matter what aggressive agenda the candidate promised going in... the opposition need only wait-out the candidate until the end of their term (or life) whichever comes first.
And even if the candidate lives through the first term... once again, we're looking at a lame-duck scenario. Such a candidate will be unable to remain competitive in pursuit of a 2nd term.
All I'm trying to say is that when it comes to MY vote, I'm going to choose someone that I believe has the best chance of surviving EIGHT YEARS and serving those eight years with enough energy, vigor and vitality to get things done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
napi21
(45,806 posts)Unfortunately I can't support Bernie any longer. I know he' 78 but appears in excellent physical condition. But after 4 years he'd be 82! After one heart attack, it stacks the odds against him.
I will be looking at the rest of the field to decide 1st, who I believe would BEAT Con Man. 2nd, who could persuade some Repugs to vote for them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Hes the one candidate I will not get behind in the primaries, and I plead the 5th out of respect for TOS should he obtain the nomination.
That said, this is a silly reason not to get behind a candidate imo. First, we have a system in place to handle it, the VP would become president, which will be someone hand-picked by our nominee.
I refuse to jump on this kind of bandwagon just because Im opposed to a candidate. If it was Biden, I would certainly still support him. If it was Warren, I would certainly still support her. I was 100% against the calls for the great RBG to step down after her recent battle with cancer. Im not going to change the position Id have just because its a candidate I dont support.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tblue37
(65,399 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RockRaven
(14,972 posts)whilst casting that primary vote. But what voters are asked to do is that we not only trust the candidate with Lincoln's "I am President of the United States, clothed with great power" BUT ALSO their de facto sole decision of the backup (even if de jure it is voted on at the convention). That is asking a lot when the actuarial tables move off of generic age/gender data and start including specific documented medical conditions which shrink the life expectancy considerably.
I want a candidate for whom the currently available data indicates a much-more-likely-than-not chance of surviving two full terms, who can also beat Trump like a cheap drum. That is not too much to ask, imo.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)is one that would be considered "balancing the ticket": Tulsi Gabbard. And it's not beyond the realm of possibility since she's been a huge Bernie proponent.
But since I'd never vote for her in a Presidential primary, I wouldn't want her as the understudy, either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFM008
(19,814 posts)Take that dream vacation for about a year.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Because that increases life expectancy. True or False
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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