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Found at whistleblower.org, coincidentally.
https://www.whistleblower.org/uncategorized/031122-senator-warren-introduces-aggressive-anti-corruption-legislation/
On Tuesday, Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) unveiled the Anti-Corruption and Public Integrity Act, a sweeping piece of legislation that takes aim at both the appearance and the potential for financial conflicts of interest among those working for the government. Among other measures, the legislation would completely overhaul the current state of lobbying by imposing a lifetime ban on lobbying by Presidents, Vice-Presidents, Members of Congress, and Cabinet Secretaries.
Announcing the legislation at the National Press Club, Senator Warren emphasized that the bill is not just a reaction to the series of ethics violations by members of the Trump Administration, but a way of addressing the continual decline of trust in the government among American citizens.
The problem is far bigger than Trump, Senator Warren said, Since Watergate, generation after generation of politicians have attacked the very idea that our government can do anything right.
Although Senator Warren said that the legislation is not about Trump, many of its clauses address conflicts of interest that are specific to his administration. For example, Title I of the legislation would require both the President and the Vice President to place conflicted assets, including businesses, into a blind trust to be sold off. This would directly affect the Presidents decision to put his assets into a trust that is managed by his sons. Former Director of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, Walter Shaub Jr., described this method of asset management as not even halfway blind.
The legislation would also require the IRS to release the tax returns for Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates from the previous 8 years and during each year in federal elected office. Trump is famously the first president in the modern era who has not released any of his tax returns.
From the perspective of whistleblowers and their advocates, this legislation would provide significant support in their efforts to increase governmental transparency. As a supporter of science whistleblowers, the Government Accountability Project is keenly aware of various agencies repeated attempts to suppress peer-reviewed research in favor of biased and inaccurate science. When the FDA under the Bush Administration failed to approve Plan B for over-the-counter sales, Susan Wood, head of the FDAs Office of Womens Health, resigned and blew the whistle on the FDAs misleading claim that the science behind Plan B was still unresolved. Senator Warrens legislation would take action against this type of politically biased misrepresentation of science by requiring individuals and corporations to disclose funding or editorial conflicts of interest in research submitted to agencies that is not publicly available in peer-reviewed publications.
The Act would also establish the U.S. Office of Public Integrity as an independent entity tasked with investigating potential federal ethics violations through subpoena authority, a power that the Inspectors General and U.S. Office of Government Ethics currently lack. This new piece of legislation would provide an additional avenue for oversight and lessen the ability that partisan politics currently has to obscure the truth in cases such as the DHSs mistreatment of detained children. The Government Accountability Project, on behalf of DHS whistleblowers Dr. Pamela McPherson and Dr. Scott Allen, has continually advocated for a congressional investigation into child detention centers. Since Congress is currently only able to issue subpoenas through a committee majority, members of the committee are able to block subpoenas, and thereby halt investigations, purely for political purposes. However, subpoena authority allows this new independent agency to hold officials accountable and conduct thorough investigations into suspected ethics violations.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)me of any section there that would apply to adult children of the president or VP (since where I see them mentioned they're listed as exceptions to the new regulations she's proposing)?
https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018.08.21%20Anti-Corruption%20and%20Public%20Integrity%20Act%20Bill%20Text.pdf
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Didnt see one on the website. Dont recall him even talking about one.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)trotting out one plan or another (most of which she'd be unlikely to ever get through Congress) her trademark. (Well, except for a health care plan, since not having one spares her having to spell out how much taxes would rise, and also leaves her some wiggle room if she decides MFA isn't tenable for the general election, if she gets that far.)
My question was about whether any of this very long bill applies to presidents and VPs (other than requiring tax returns be released). As far as I could tell skimming it quickly, there's absolutely nothing there to stop members of a president or vice president's family from doing what Hunter Biden's done.
And I assume it isn't there because she knows how unworkable any restrictions like that would be. Adult family members can't be controlled, and you can't very well ask a president or VP to step down or recuse themselves from some area if one of their adult family members does something that creates an appearance of a conflict of interest.
Now if the president or VP does anything unethical themselves, they can of course be impeached.
But judging by this piece of proposed legislation, Warren is well aware that it would be ridiculous to try to institute rules controlling adult members of a president or VP's family.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Not her problem that she has made an issue that helped Trump get elected in 2016, is at the center of the current impeachment drama and will again dominate the political landscape in 2020 her number one priority while your candidate, among others, has whiffed on it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)ways to deal with some of the issues that helped Trump in 2016:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/27/foreign-dark-money-joe-biden-222690
Warren has trotted out lots and lots of plans.
IMO her plans basically amount to detailed campaign promises, very appealing to wonks, but the majority of them unfeasible.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)And that was before Hunter Bidens $50k/mo insider capitalism gig became common knowledge. Whats become unfeasible for 2020 is to argue that Joe Biden is anywhere near our best messenger on fighting corruption and changing the way Washington works. Im sure he supports HR1 and would say the right things, but he has not made fighting corruption a priority.
This is a big deal:
The organizations survey found that 75 percent of 2018 voters in battleground House districts said cracking down on Washington corruption was their top priority, followed by 71 percent who wanted to protect Social Security and Medicare, and 70 percent who listed growing the economy and jobs.
https://www.vox.com/2019/9/16/20867216/elizabeth-warren-anti-corruption-bill
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)almost all the primary polls, some of which include Democratic-leaning independents, and he's also leading in almost all the general election polls of various candidates against Trum, beating Trump by wider margins than any other candidate.
So apparently voters find him to be the messenger they want and the president and leader they'd trust, as well as the Democratic candidate who would do best against Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Going from "do other candidates have X like Warren" to "this is about Warren... leave the other candidates out of it" in two posts.
That may be a new Moving-The-Goalposts record!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Good to see you here.
Have you thought about starting your own positive thread about Joe Bidens plans to fight corruption?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,291 posts)with "..it's not a priority for him..".
Not Working, BG.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexblues
(180 posts)Obama went 8 years without a whiff of a scandal or hint of corruption. He never had to hire any personal lawyers either.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Can you post it as the OP has Warrens so we can compare?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lexblues
(180 posts)How about that? Hire upstanding, ethical employees and you don't have to deal with corruption. Biden was the VP in the most ethical administration in the history of this country. I have no qualms about him running an ethical government. He already knows how that works.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
procon
(15,805 posts)Long overdue and badly needed, it needs big teeth to ensure compliance.
Trump has made it necessary for all kinds of new laws because of his lack of ethics and morals.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)stand up and be counted against Trumps all-out assault on the 202O election through an attack on
Joe Biden. If all goes according to her wishes, she will be next. And we know Joe would be among
those who would defend herby name.
No, dont give me the anti-corruption fighter excuse. There is no excuse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,064 posts)Is a virtue.
I cant think of any Warren supporters here who would show up on thread after thread demanding that other candidates defend her when she is perfectly capable of defending herself, as she has had to do plenty of times in the past.
Dont you feel Biden is doing a good job of defending himself? I do. And said that I disagree with the NYT article that took the opposite view. Perhaps you dont have confidence in Biden to handle this. I do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)And as for whether our candidates should defend one another when one comes under attack by Trump -- that's something that was brought up on CNN and answered properly by Cory Booker.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287301637
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,291 posts)I'm standing up for emmaverybo..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,291 posts)and says nothing about her.
Like Senator Corey Booker said..
Exactly the point we've been making and some refuse to acknowledge it because their candidates won't do it.
It could come back to bite them if they should happen to think they're helping themselves. They're only helping trump erase Democracy.
Link to tweet
Let that sink in!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,064 posts)dont feel it is enough. None of your friends here think it is enough. Your friends jump into every Warren thread to attack her and demand that Warren defend Biden the way YOU want to hear him defended.
But, of course, Im the one whos being nasty. You dont see me hopping onto every Biden thread and posting against him. I wouldnt do that out of respect for him and for his supporters.
What angers your friends is when I answer their attacks on Warren. They want to hop on my positive threads about my primary candidate and attack her without pushback.
Good luck with that.
I will continue to support Warren, and Ill continue to support Biden and our other candidates in their campaigns without attacking them needlessly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,001 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden