under the guise of comedy, I see nothing "funny" about that.

Go to the 30 second mark of this video to see Bernie's true statement to the children of Vermont.

Trevor Noah is hilarious.

Not going to your link with the a child as the logo in the upper left. Please state who it is from. Thanks.

aimed at damaging progressives. I have no need to click on a video with a child in the upper left after the first link is to the National Review. Corporatist right wing propaganda outlet.

Trevor Noah is a gem.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-review/

Please don't support extreme right wing "news" outlets. The link in your op is far more damaging to society as a whole than what you are attempting to attack.

is that one doesn't look up or down.

I view the actual contents of the article as predominant in determining its' worth, not whether the snitch has a star or not.

Your video with Trevor Noah whether you wish to label it "progressive" or not is totally misleading, I wouldn't expect any better from Trump, his lies are limitless but I do hold a higher standard in regards to the media.

The video that I just posted that you refuse to even view for the most superficial of reasons is in fact the truth, and censoring yourself from that point of view only impoverishes yourself insofar as knowledge is concerned.

That’s hilarious. Brought to us by the National Review and about a comedy show.

The National Review is a corporate right wing propaganda outlet.

No, I don’t click videoed when the previous link the person posted is to the National Review.

of the corporate media conglomerates.

Trevor Noah is out to get you.

Attacking a progressive comedian who is a man of color by using the National Review. Gotta be some kind of new low.

It's always a low when truth means nothing to people because of some ideological purity claim.

That has a history of overwhelmingly supporting politicians and policies that are oppressive to people of color.

You shouldn’t have to be told that. It’s extremely well known.

that's extremely well known.

You promote the National Review. As I said, a far right wing propaganda outlet with a history off supporting oppressive policies and politicians.

that I posted on post #3 because they were inconvenient truths for you.

The corporate media conglomerates are corporate media conglomerates first, last and in the middle and that's why we have Trump in the White House.

A “fan” of a politician takes issue with a progressive comedian, the National Review runs with it, then it is brought to DU.

I think it’s hilarious.

Again.

1) A fan of a politician has a beef with the accuracy of a comedian during a comedy skit.

2) As one of the foremost right wing corporate media outlets they of course run with it.

3) The outlet has a history of promoting oppressive policies and politicians so going after a black man, even in the most weak and pathetic manner, is comfort food for their souls.

4) An extreme right wing outlet gets to use a “fan” to attack a progressive comedian.

I now get that this is your thing.

1. A comedian employed by a one of the five major corporate media conglomerates.

2. The National Review (which I don't agree with the vast majority of the time) is a conservative magazine not owned by a corporate media conglomerate.

3. The truth no matter how painful is NOT weak or pathetic just because you don't like the messenger.

4. The "progressive" comedian employed by a corporate media conglomerate (Viacom) under the guise of comedy slanders the leading progressive candidate for the Democratic nomination for President.

I now get that corporate propaganda under the guise of comedy and ideological labels mean more to you than the actual truth.

I’m going to slowly walk away.

You have literally lied in your response here while lecturing me on the truth.

Wow.

Perhaps you could actually point out where I lied but I doubt it.

Don't be "slow" about it.

If you do you are using it as a very dishonest attack on me. Something I haven’t done once to you.

BTW, Sanders is not the leading progressive candidate. The polls don’t back that line of bunk up.

… Is Elizabeth Warren.

Not cool. Sanders supporters aren’t the fools you are making them out to be.

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51. The leading progressive candidate for the Democratic nomination for President.

… Is Elizabeth Warren.

....28,000 itemized contributors. That's a far cry from "over a million". The campaign said that, but it isn't proven out through his FEC filings, unless he got contributions from more than 970,000 contributors in the 3rd quarter.

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Really?

"America" (The book)
A Citizens Guide to Democracy Inaction

https://www.amazon.com/Daily-Stewart-Presents-America-Teachers/dp/0446691860

It does take corporate media conglomeration to task, one will not see that often and he is no longer with them, perhaps just a coincidence?

The full quote is "I think you are dumb if you don't learn to read and write." The kid says that he is too dumb to learn
Bernie says, "You are not dumb."
Sorry you have to self censor your video intake.

What you present is included at the right wing link in the op. Quoted word for word.

It’s also a part of the excerpt used by the op.

Without context. Specially when it simply has an image of a kid in the upper left.

Even children would be offended at the association. My apologies to kids. I’ll take your word that it’s that bad.

no, it's comedy. Trevor Noah isn't pushing "propaganda" have you lost your mind?
He's job isn't to be fair or to "give a true statement."
It's to make people laugh for 2-3 seconds while he sets up the next joke.

Some Americans admit to primarily getting their take on the news from comedy or satire programs and if that program was all they had seen in regards to Bernie's old videos, they would be totally mislead as to how Bernie relates (ed) with children it goes hand in glove with the serious punditry frame of Bernie just being "angry" or gruff.

It deprives the viewers of his compassionate, reflective side, making him easier to caricature while depriving the American People of critical information in their electoral deliberations.

In the end, it's the American People that are getting screwed from corporate media propaganda, no matter the form.

he isn't.

Colbert, Seth, hell The View is more important than Trevor Noah.

"I see nothing "funny" about that."

It's tough to see satire directed at our sacred cows, but that's what Horatian satire is all about. So I'm not too surprised you're unwilling to see anything humorous.

This was not good comedy.

If you can't take that...my goodness.

you can't have it both ways.

is to whine about a stupid comedy show.

Trevor Noah isn't John Stewart, and TDS long ceased having the cache that the Stewart version had politically.

Noah just tries to be funny. That's it. He's not really trying to do what Stewart was doing.

Now, I don't find him nearly as funny as Stewart so I stopped watching once Jon left.

Which makes whining about it even more perplexing since it raises attention to something no one else is paying much attention to.

It looks impotent to be honest.

That is how I see it when it comes comparing the two generations of TDS. One difference is that I think Noah is just as funny. But I think because Noah isn't doing what Stewart was that it is a bit easier for him to come up with material.

but I also recognize humor has a wide swath and obviously more than enough people DO find him funny for him to stay employed.

But, as no one has argued media is above criticism, you're the only one making that argument-- I'd guess it's to have someone to argue against.

Automatic "corporate media conglomeration" kill the messenger attacks are . And then linking to the National Review!

Worldviews. (Fox, Limbaugh, etc.) Yet it ends there....how?

You were just given a good example but chose to deflect.

Bye. 🐦.

Laughing at Bernie over an altered sound bite?
Sadder yet to see DU members approving.

I don't 'get it'.

it is sad.

not to misrepresent but it's inevitable that it happens with soundbites. You cannot avoid it.

Also, did the shortened quote really misrepresent the point Bernie made? The kid said it's not important to learn to read or write and that he doesn't like school. Both the edited version "I think you are dumb" and the full response "I think you’re dumb if you don’t sit down and learn how to read and write." fit the context in that case and are not a a misrepresentation at all. Sander's reason for calling someone dumb was exactly what the kid said. Sanders of course went on and softens it a bit.
Further, that piece made fun of Bernie but overall it was still not something with negative intentions to sour your feelings against him. I'd say rather the opposite is the case.

Check this video out at about the 30 second mark.

It basically starts with the I think you are dumb part without the context.

I used the the quotes from the OP. In the Daily show segment, the kid disagreed that learning to read and write is important. Then, I have to assume, came the “I think you’re dumb if you don’t sit down and learn how to read and write." part. Bernie's reason for "I think you are dumb" is exactly what the kid said. How is that a misrepresentation? Yes, it's edited but the part in your linked video is edited, too, and even more misleading by leaving out the context of what came before that quote.

of what Bernie actually said.

Trevor cuts it down to one sentence which in fact is the exact opposite of what Bernie's message to the boy was.

"I think you're dumb when you think you're dumb and you're not" came after that as well.

Trevor Noah *did not* cut it down to one sentence. I'm sure thousands of people will watch that In the Rise video and come away thinking that, but anyone who watched the original Daily Show video see that that's totally and obviously not true.

The Daily Show segment, which apparently nobody has actually bothered to watch, did not cut straight to "I think you're dumb," it actually did give context, which both the person who made this video, and the person who wrote the National Review article, ignored.

It was hilarious !

Your playing with us, right

Shocker.

LMAO.

The ironic thing is that, in order to accuse the Daily Show of taking things out of context, the article itself takes the very segment it is complaining about out of context.