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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:45 PM Oct 2019

Warren on top in higly rated live-caller Quinnipiac Poll

Warren...… 29%
Biden...….. 26%
Sanders.... 16%
Buttigieg.....4%
Harris...…... 3%
Yang...…….. 3%




The Democratic Primary

With the next Democratic debate only a week away, Warren and Biden both keep their top of the pack positions in the Democratic primary, with Warren receiving support from 29 percent of Democratic voters and independent voters who lean Democratic and Biden getting 26 percent support. Sanders seems to be the only other candidate left in the mix with the two frontrunners, receiving 16 percent of the vote. No other candidate tops 4 percent.

"Warren maintains her strength in the Democratic primary, which has been consistently growing since the start of her campaign. This poll confirms her status as a co-frontrunner with Biden," added Malloy.

This compares to a September 25 Quinnipiac University poll, in which Warren received 27 percent, Biden got 25 percent, and Sanders had 16 percent.

President Trump and the 2020 Election

Today, President Trump's job approval is nearly identical to a week ago - today, it is a negative 40 - 54 percent approval rating. Last week, his approval rating was a negative 41 - 53 percent. Looking ahead to the 2020 presidential election, he receives similar levels of support as his approval rating against top Democratic contenders:

Biden beats Trump 51 - 40 percent, compared to 54 - 38 percent on August 28;
Sanders tops Trump 49 - 42 percent, compared to 53 - 39 percent on August 28;
Warren wins against Trump 49 - 41 percent, compared to 52 - 40 percent on August 28.

From October 4 - 7, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,483 self-identified registered voters nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 3.1 percentage points, including the design effect. The survey includes 646 Democratic voters and independent voters who lean Democratic with a margin of error of +/- 4.7 percentage points, including the design effect.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts gold standard surveys using random digit dialing with live interviewers calling landlines and cell phones. The Quinnipiac University Poll conducts nationwide surveys and polls in more than a dozen states on national and statewide elections, as well as public policy issues.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3643
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Warren on top in higly rated live-caller Quinnipiac Poll (Original Post) bluewater Oct 2019 OP
Warren now at 20% support amongst Black voters too! bluewater Oct 2019 #1
Congrats to your awesome candidate!! Elizabeth rocks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #2
Still some time, bernie could still take it! Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #26
Agree 100%... with his recent heart attack & now the death of his daughter-in-law... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #27
Exactly!!! Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #37
Once AA Voters See Her as Viable, They Will Likely Take a Second (or First) Look DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #35
Warren now FRONTRUNNER on the RCP POLLS tracker of major polls! bluewater Oct 2019 #3
I hope that Warren is not the nominee and not because I dislike her but because I do not believe she Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #6
The trends in this major poll beg to differ. bluewater Oct 2019 #8
All THREE can defeat Dolt45, EASILY... this nonsense, that only Joe can, is just that, nonsense!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #29
Warren is beating Trump in Ohio.. a very important rustbelt state HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #11
Biden is beating Trump in Ohio...I live in Ohio. She won't win here. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #22
So ignore the polls that don't confirm an existing opinion? bluewater Oct 2019 #28
True dat!! Indeed, Joe is losin' his mo', so no, go with the flo'... Elizabeth rocks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #30
Latest polls show Warren beating Trump in 2/3 rust belt states Fiendish Thingy Oct 2019 #13
Wishful thinking...she won't win rust belt states. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #23
Fearmongering - What Evidence Do You Have Besides Your Imagination? DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #36
Elizabeth would CRUSH the rust belt... especially, if she teams up with Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #32
really? This is the first we've heard this from you! qazplm135 Oct 2019 #14
agree. 20% AA is nowhere good enough. Rustbelt states wins are a must for the general election. onetexan Oct 2019 #16
Warren Beats Trump By 4 in Ohio and Wisconsin, By 6 in Michigan DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #38
There is a reason why trump does not want to face Biden, beachbumbob Oct 2019 #4
Debate Performances? Firing Up Huge Crowds? Strong Central Message? Lack of Gaffes? DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #39
I read the poll...it is a tie at best...and many other polls have different results...we shall see. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #5
The RCP POLLS tracker of the AVERAGE of the major polls now has Warren as Frontrunner! bluewater Oct 2019 #7
I really don't think that is the case. But time will tell...some of the polls included are not good. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #24
This Poll is Highly Rated DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #40
Buttigieg is at 4% in Quinnipiac Poll ritapria Oct 2019 #9
K&R HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #10
Thanks for including info on the MOE nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2019 #12
538 Ntl Polling Avg. Biden 28.5, warren 23.25, sanders 15.6 Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #15
So, some DU-er decided to average just the last 4 polls? bluewater Oct 2019 #17
RCP is the one that averages only the last 4 polls Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #18
WRONG! RCP is the average of recent major polls. bluewater Oct 2019 #19
Trying WAY to hard... not buyin it!! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #20
lol I'm not the DU-er making their own homespun "poll average tracker" bluewater Oct 2019 #21
After looking at most of the polls, I think it is not us who seek a port in the storm...Warren will Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #25
Nailed it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #33
So...The Polls That 538 Give a C+ and B- Rating Favor Biden, The A- Ones Have Warren Winning DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #41
One thing's clear customerserviceguy Oct 2019 #31
The biggest story is that Trump is narrowing the gap in head-to head matchups after Doodley Oct 2019 #34
Really? Cause Warren If Beating Him By 8% in the Latest A- Poll DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #42
8 points now, down from 12 points in the previous poll. Yes, that is a narrower lead. Be afraid. Doodley Oct 2019 #43
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
1. Warren now at 20% support amongst Black voters too!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:46 PM
Oct 2019

Biden at 36%, Warren 20%, Sanders 16%, Yang 5%, Booker 4% amongst Black voters.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
2. Congrats to your awesome candidate!! Elizabeth rocks!!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:49 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Bernie too... they would make an formidable team!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
26. Still some time, bernie could still take it!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:36 PM
Oct 2019

Will be happy either way. Obviously Elizabeth is looking really good right now though....

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
27. Agree 100%... with his recent heart attack & now the death of his daughter-in-law...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:48 PM
Oct 2019

Bernie's hit a rough patch. But, when it comes to Bernie, you should never count the guy out.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or...
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
35. Once AA Voters See Her as Viable, They Will Likely Take a Second (or First) Look
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:18 PM
Oct 2019

Research has shown that AA voters are more pragmatic than centrist. They tend to be reluctant to vote for someone who may struggle to win in the GE. This was even true of Barack Obama. Until he showed that he was capable of winning, AA voters went for the establishment candidate.

While Biden supporters often overstate the depth of his support with AA voters, they radically overstate the community's opposition to Warren - her favorability ratings remain quite high.

Should Warren take Iowa and New Hampshire, she will be seen as increasingly viable. She is trouncing Trump by 8 points in the same poll, so fearmongering that she will hand the White House to Trump becomes increasingly desperate.

All of this would be meaningless if she were not an amazing candidate who can fire up a crowd, but still have remarkable message discipline and organizational strength.

She's surging for a reason.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
3. Warren now FRONTRUNNER on the RCP POLLS tracker of major polls!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:49 PM
Oct 2019
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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
6. I hope that Warren is not the nominee and not because I dislike her but because I do not believe she
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:56 PM
Oct 2019

will win the rust belt states we need. Trump could win. She has my support in a general but it is a bad idea to put someone up as the nominee when they don't poll as well against Trump and are way down in the AA vote.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
8. The trends in this major poll beg to differ.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:59 PM
Oct 2019

Warren's support amongst black voters continues to increase and is now at 20%.

Warren is easily defeating Trump, as is Biden and Sanders.

Anyone can read the results for themselves at:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3643

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. All THREE can defeat Dolt45, EASILY... this nonsense, that only Joe can, is just that, nonsense!!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:56 PM
Oct 2019

Good for Elizabeth, who has run a flawless campaign, and has shown why she would be the most competent Democratic candidate to ever be nominated and would give people real hope that the "glass ceiling" will be finally broken!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 
11. Warren is beating Trump in Ohio.. a very important rustbelt state
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:29 PM
Oct 2019
Biden and Sanders lead Trump 53% to 47% in potential head to head matchups, while Warren leads 52% to 48%.


https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/ohio-2020-statistical-dead-heat-with-biden-sanders-and-warren-in-democratic-primary

there are other polls showing Warren winning against Trump in the rust belt too, so I think your conclusion is wrong.
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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
22. Biden is beating Trump in Ohio...I live in Ohio. She won't win here.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:27 PM
Oct 2019
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
28. So ignore the polls that don't confirm an existing opinion?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:54 PM
Oct 2019

Not a good idea.

Warren can definitely win in Ohio, in my opinion and the opinion of many of those people polled.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
30. True dat!! Indeed, Joe is losin' his mo', so no, go with the flo'... Elizabeth rocks!!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:04 PM
Oct 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Fiendish Thingy

(15,619 posts)
13. Latest polls show Warren beating Trump in 2/3 rust belt states
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:33 PM
Oct 2019

And now Ohio, and we're still a year away from Election Day.

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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
23. Wishful thinking...she won't win rust belt states.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:28 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
36. Fearmongering - What Evidence Do You Have Besides Your Imagination?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:21 PM
Oct 2019
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
32. Elizabeth would CRUSH the rust belt... especially, if she teams up with Bernie.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:10 PM
Oct 2019

People shouldn't fall for this nonsense that only Joe can defeat tRumpy.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
14. really? This is the first we've heard this from you!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:35 PM
Oct 2019

Please repeat it 1000 more times!!

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onetexan

(13,041 posts)
16. agree. 20% AA is nowhere good enough. Rustbelt states wins are a must for the general election.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:12 PM
Oct 2019
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beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. There is a reason why trump does not want to face Biden,
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:51 PM
Oct 2019

People need to realize this.

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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
39. Debate Performances? Firing Up Huge Crowds? Strong Central Message? Lack of Gaffes?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:25 PM
Oct 2019

Don't keep it a secret!

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Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
5. I read the poll...it is a tie at best...and many other polls have different results...we shall see.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:54 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
7. The RCP POLLS tracker of the AVERAGE of the major polls now has Warren as Frontrunner!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:56 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
24. I really don't think that is the case. But time will tell...some of the polls included are not good.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:29 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
40. This Poll is Highly Rated
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:26 PM
Oct 2019

And Warren is clearly ahead of all the other candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
9. Buttigieg is at 4% in Quinnipiac Poll
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:02 PM
Oct 2019

I'm surprised Kamala Harris is down to just 3% ...I think she is doing better than that ….. Bernie is doing better than 2% support amongst voters 65 and older …. He's got roughly 5% - 6% support in that subgroup of voters ….He's doing a point or 2 better than the Quinnipiac Topline Poll results suggest ….Overall, this poll seems to be a fair reading of the current Presidential Race ... All the Candidates not named Elizabeth Warren are struggling mightily

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Fiendish Thingy

(15,619 posts)
12. Thanks for including info on the MOE nt
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:30 PM
Oct 2019
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Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)
15. 538 Ntl Polling Avg. Biden 28.5, warren 23.25, sanders 15.6
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:47 PM
Oct 2019

538 National Polling Averages: Biden 28.5, Warren 23.25, Sanders 15.6 (Biden +5.25)

538 National Polling Averages: Biden 28.5, Warren 23.25, Sanders 15.6 (Biden +5.25)
Source: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/

RCP does not include all the polls listed by 538. This means their average does not include all the available data from legitimate polls 538. Like RCP, the following averages are given according to the last four polls released. The polls include both online and live polls. The sample means LV (likely voters), RV (registered voters), etc. I have listed only those with double digits Sorry about that. Consult the link above for others (Harris, Buttigieg, O’Rourke, Booker, Yang, etc.)).

Poll (Dates) (Rating ) (Sample): Joe Biden , Elizabeth Warren , Bernie Sanders

HarrisX (10/4-10/7)(C+)(LV): JB 33, EW 19, BS 16 (Biden +14)
Morning Consult (9/30-10/6) B- (LV): JB 33, EW 21, BS 19 (Biden +12)
IBD/TIPP (9/26-10/3)(A-)(RV): JB 26, EW 27, BS 10 (Warren +1)
YouGov (9/28-10/1)(B) (LV) Biden 22, Warren 26, Sanders 14.75 (Warren +4)

Averages: Biden 28.5, Warren 23.25, Sanders 15.6 (Biden +5.25)

This was laid out this morning by DU’er uncle Noel. Thx for the complete post of the Ntl polling picture

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
17. So, some DU-er decided to average just the last 4 polls?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:12 PM
Oct 2019

And all 3 out of those 4 polls are online polls?

And to stress, this WAS NOT DONE by 538 but just a DU-er who decided to average the last 4 poll results on his own.


Ok...



I guess any port in a storm, eh?

What's nice about the RCP POLLS tracker is it's done by professionals, uses major polls, uses current poll results AND has a nice visual tracker. Take a look at it at RCP POLLS:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

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Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)
18. RCP is the one that averages only the last 4 polls
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:23 PM
Oct 2019

And no, there’s a link to 538 and the analysis Done by 538... not by “some DU’er” as you are saying. This person was posting a very complete analysis, more complete than RCP

538 has every bit as good as reputation as RCP if not better.

It’s a more complete picture

You don’t rattle me with your comments and emocons.

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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
19. WRONG! RCP is the average of recent major polls.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:36 PM
Oct 2019

Currently 5 polls are included in the average. New polls are added and older polls drop off, so the number of polls utilized varies.

The DU-ers analysis would mean the HarrisX online poll could conceivable BE the last 4 polls listed by 538, I mean 538 list THIRTEEN HarrisX Polls just for the month of October already! And they were all in a row too!

That might be the reason why the online HarrisX polls are not included in the RCP POLLS tracker. THe Harris polls get listed in RCP only when they are done in conjunction with the Wall Street Journal or Harvard, which is about as often as major polls are usually released.

But if a DUer wants to average in the more than DAILY releases of the HarrisX poll in their own "average tracker", go for it, have fun.

If they want to include it in their homespun "average tracker" more often than any other poll because it is released so often, that too is fine.

But... Please don't try to pass off this type of homespun analysis as the product of 538 though.


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Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)
20. Trying WAY to hard... not buyin it!!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:56 PM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
21. lol I'm not the DU-er making their own homespun "poll average tracker"
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 07:04 PM
Oct 2019

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Let's all just be clear that a DU-er did that on their own and it is not a product put out by 538.


Thanks for the discussion.

Have a nice evening.




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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
25. After looking at most of the polls, I think it is not us who seek a port in the storm...Warren will
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 08:31 PM
Oct 2019

not be the nominee IMHO.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
33. Nailed it!!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:13 PM
Oct 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!! or
Elizabeth & Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
41. So...The Polls That 538 Give a C+ and B- Rating Favor Biden, The A- Ones Have Warren Winning
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:32 PM
Oct 2019

You might want to think that out before posting it again.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
31. One thing's clear
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:08 PM
Oct 2019

Once the DNC sets the polling mark at 5%, this is a three person race. Or, maybe it will take 10%, but that time is coming soon.

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Doodley

(9,092 posts)
34. The biggest story is that Trump is narrowing the gap in head-to head matchups after
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:17 PM
Oct 2019

impeachment investigations have began. That should scare the living daylights out of us. It may mean Trump is winning this battle and could end up in a stronger position.

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DrFunkenstein

(8,745 posts)
42. Really? Cause Warren If Beating Him By 8% in the Latest A- Poll
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 09:34 PM
Oct 2019

Mongering a little fear there, no?

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Doodley

(9,092 posts)
43. 8 points now, down from 12 points in the previous poll. Yes, that is a narrower lead. Be afraid.
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 12:06 AM
Oct 2019
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