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bluewater

(5,376 posts) Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:38 PM Oct 2019

Biden is creating a generational divide among black voters

While polls suggest Joe Biden leads among black voters, please read the fine print. Although Barack Obama's vice president touts his African-American support by saying "I think they know me," in reality that support is conditional, more specifically generational, and therefore flimsy and tenuous.
Biden enjoys widespread support among older black adults, leaving some younger black voters to try to convince their parents and grandparents to change their ways and shift their vote for the 2020 election.

Black millennials and Gen Z-ers are proactively attempting to sway their elder family members away from Biden and towards progressive candidates, as the New York Times reported in September. While it's unclear if the attempt to specifically sway older black voters is working, according to an October Quinnipiac poll, Biden's support among black registered Democrats and Democratic-leaning independent voters has dropped 17 points since their July poll.
Biden has downplayed this black generational gap, suggesting the votes of older and moderate blacks are all he may need to get him over the top. However, it should come as no surprise that Biden has a young black people problem.

While his age, 76, has been mentioned as an issue, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are also in his age group -- and yet their age, until Sanders' recent heart attack, has not emerged as a factor.
But what has proven a roadblock for Biden's support among young people of color is the shelf life of his mindset, his decades-old sentiments on race, society and politics that seem to lock him into the 1960s and 1970s. Add to that Biden's perceived persona of white moderation that tells black people we should move in baby steps rather than seek aggressive and immediate change.

During the third Democratic debate, when asked about slavery and reparations, Biden responded with references to black parents unable to raise their children, and by telling them to "make sure you have the record player on at night." At that moment, Biden sounded out of touch -- more like a white man blaming black people for their
oppression.

David A. Love is a writer, commentator, and journalism and media studies professor based in Philadelphia. He contributes to a variety of outlets, including Atlanta Black Star, ecoWURD and Al Jazeera. Follow him on Twitter: @DavidALove. The opinions expressed in this commentary are his. View more opinion articles on CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/10/opinions/biden-generational-divide-black-voters-love/index.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden is creating a generational divide among black voters (Original Post) bluewater Oct 2019 OP

Nice that CNN is putting the 60s and 70s out to pasture bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #1

Aren't they talking about the mindset of those years? Perseus Oct 2019 #13

It's all Joe's fault or Thanks a lot Joe. Lol BootinUp Oct 2019 #2

There is a pattern by SOME who go out of their way to push OPINION posts that diminish Biden, still_one Oct 2019 #8

Must be a slow day.... Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #12

LOL. Slow day alright still_one Oct 2019 #14

Shit stirring n/t jaysunb Oct 2019 #3

Hearing what a Black journalism professor has to say is shit stirring? bluewater Oct 2019 #4

"a Black journalism professor" is not an entire race... Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #5

Nor is he a "shit stirrer" bluewater Oct 2019 #7

I don't think the professor was who the poster was referring to. Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #15

So posting the Professor's opinion and insights is shit stirring? bluewater Oct 2019 #16

You mean Clarrence Thomas doesn't speak for all African Americans? still_one Oct 2019 #11

LOL! Much more correct to say progressive candidates luring young voters with promises of free highplainsdem Oct 2019 #6

Oh boy!! You said it ..some candidates will say anything for votes. Even when it can't be delivered Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #10

Indeed black voters have spoken!! SC the bellwether for the AA voter shows they resoundingly Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #9

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)

1. Nice that CNN is putting the 60s and 70s out to pasture

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:40 PM

Oct 2019

such ageism is obtuse in the extreme

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Perseus

(4,341 posts)

13. Aren't they talking about the mindset of those years?

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:59 PM

Oct 2019

That is history, people thought about things very different than they do today. Should we not talk about the Beatles, for example, and the revolution of thought they brought to the World because that dates from the late 50s to the late 70s? Although their influence is still felt.

Would you want a candidate whose mind is stuck in the 50s, or 60s, or 70s? I think we should all aspire to find a candidate who will move the country forward and to a better place.

I didn't find their reference as ageism, I think this quote says it all "the shelf life of his mindset", if the person is stuck in that way of thinking then we have a problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

BootinUp

(47,156 posts)

2. It's all Joe's fault or Thanks a lot Joe. Lol

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:41 PM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,209 posts)

8. There is a pattern by SOME who go out of their way to push OPINION posts that diminish Biden,

Reply to BootinUp (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:53 PM

Oct 2019

thinking it will "hurt" and reflect badly on Biden, when what it really does is reflect badly on them

It is divisive at its worse, and people can see this crap for what it is, and instead of persuading people who throw this garbage out, it alienates and divides.

With everything going on with the trump and the republican abuse of power, this is best they got

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)

12. Must be a slow day....

Reply to still_one (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:58 PM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,209 posts)

14. LOL. Slow day alright

Reply to Thekaspervote (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:00 PM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)

3. Shit stirring n/t

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:41 PM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

4. Hearing what a Black journalism professor has to say is shit stirring?

Reply to jaysunb (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:47 PM

Oct 2019

Sorry, but the voices of Black voters, journalists and academics deserve to be heard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)

5. "a Black journalism professor" is not an entire race...

Reply to bluewater (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:50 PM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

7. Nor is he a "shit stirrer"

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:52 PM

Oct 2019

And last time I checked, I don't think I have read an article written by "an entire race".

Mr. Love voiced his personal insights and, as I said before, voices -- note the plural --- of Black voters, journalists and academics deserve to be heard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)

15. I don't think the professor was who the poster was referring to.

Reply to bluewater (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:01 PM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bluewater

(5,376 posts)

16. So posting the Professor's opinion and insights is shit stirring?

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:03 PM

Oct 2019

I was wrong to post what a Black journalism professor wrote on CNN?

We should not discuss what Professor Love had to say?

Sorry, I disagree.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

still_one

(92,209 posts)

11. You mean Clarrence Thomas doesn't speak for all African Americans?

Reply to Dennis Donovan (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:56 PM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)

6. LOL! Much more correct to say progressive candidates luring young voters with promises of free

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:51 PM

Oct 2019

college and student loan forgiveness are creating a generational divide.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)

10. Oh boy!! You said it ..some candidates will say anything for votes. Even when it can't be delivered

Reply to highplainsdem (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:55 PM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Thekaspervote

(32,771 posts)

9. Indeed black voters have spoken!! SC the bellwether for the AA voter shows they resoundingly

Reply to bluewater (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:53 PM

Oct 2019

Support Joe Biden... Go Joe go... we’ve got your back!!

A+ rated by 538 Fox poll 9/29- 10/2
Biden 41%
Warren 12%
Sanders 10%

More at the link
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primaries/democratic/south-carolina/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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