Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumUnbelievable: Failed smears only make Elizabeth Warren stronger as new Dem front-runner
Interesting comparison.
https://www.inquirer.com/columnists/attytood/elizabeth-warren-pregnancy-smear-metoo-democratic-front-runner-20191010.html
Its hard not to notice that Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren has surged in recent weeks to the very top of the Democratic 2020 polls Real Clear Politics, which aggregates all the leading polls, just moved her ahead of the no-longer-inevitable Joe Biden at the same time that the office-water-cooler show all your coworkers are talking about is Netflixs Unbelievable.
For sure, the core premise of the series which starts with the agony of a troubled teen struggling and initially failing to convince detectives she is the victim of a horrific sexual assault, and then pans out more widely to the search for a serial rapist has nothing overtly to do with electoral politics.
But the underlying angst of Unbelievable the power dynamics of a society where too many women are not only unheard but unheeded is very much the same wave of righteous fury that propelled the 2017 Womens March, the #MeToo movement, and a record number of new women in Congress.
With the calendar flipping toward 2020, Elizabeth Warren is surfing atop that tsunami, backwards and in high heels. Her steady climb in the polls has moved her campaign from the first they ignore you mode into the stage of then they fight you, with increasingly nervous billionaires and card-carrying members of the vast right-wing conspiracy looking to attack her as dangerous, shrill, not likable enough, (insert misogynist trope here) and unbelievable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)continues to march toward her goal with confidence and growing support.
What's not to like?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)and Elizabeth Warren, among others, is NOT. It's good to see tRUMP's propaganda machine falling apart at the same time he does.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)Warren is NOT corrupt. With her I have the confidence that she is out for the American people and not being hijacked, policy-wise, by some corporate lobby interest. Not disparaging the other candidates or suggesting any of them are corrupt. It is just that I like Warren's policies, her bold vision, AND the lack of corruption.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brewens
(13,615 posts)administration. That's a big plus.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Green Line
(1,123 posts)Biden today up by 1.8 on RCP
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)change daily, So she'll probably be up again soon.
I predict a lot of see-sawing in the polls.
But the crucial point is that she is steadily up there and Biden's inevitability as a front-runner is indeed being challenged.
I believe that we'll see this happening in other areas of the country sooner rather than later.
But it's an exciting time for anyone who is a Democrat because we have so many good candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(14,586 posts)Already does!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Autumn
(45,120 posts)She's got this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)She's running a flawless campaign.
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)We are lucky as Democrats to have many qualified candidates. The GOP has none.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Dont look back, someone might be gaining on you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Im very impressed by both her and Buttigieg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...only have about 55% support, things will be swinging back and forth almost every day or two. What should be watched is what's going on behind them. Sanders has dropped more than 2.5 points since October 1, Buttigieg is down 1 and Harris is down 1, the others up/down fractions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Should be interesting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....start dropping out the remaining 21.5% (plus 9.5% undecided) will be going somewhere.
People talk about Warren zooming to the lead if/when BS drops out, but her support + his is only 41. There really are no other "progressive" candidates other than them, so I would suspect most of their support will go to Biden.
But the real key is where they all stand in the four early states and the Super Tuesday states. We'll have a really good idea who our nominee is after March 3.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)above.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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real Cannabis calm
(1,124 posts)I'd sure like to see Harris doing what she does best, as the next U.S. Attorney General. Harris would put every one of those GOP criminals, especially Barr and Trump, in prison.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)there is an "obviously" about it. There's still a long way to go.
But there is no doubt at all from me about Kamala's being an excellent pick for AG.
I see-sawed between both of these woman candidates for a long time and finally came out in Elizabeth's corner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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DrFunkenstein
(8,745 posts)The tally of Pennsylvanias votes, where Trump won 2,961,875 votes to Clintons 2,915,440, was a difference of 46,435 votes. Add that to the official results out of Wisconsin, where Clinton lost by 22,177 votes, and Michigan, which she lost by 10,704 votes.
So, 0.057 percent of total voters cost Clinton the presidency.
Keep in mind that:
A) In the last 10 weeks of the campaign, Clinton gave one speech in Michigan and zero speeches in Wisconsin. Trump made made 106 campaign stops during that time, Clinton made only 71.
B) James Comey is still a douchebag.
C) No one knew that Trump would govern from the extreme right. People (stupid ones) thought he was an independent swamp-drainer who would bring tons of jobs to the Rust Belt, make brilliant trade deals, and make Mexico pay for a gleaming new wall.
D) Relatedly, many people saw Trump as an outsider and Clinton as an establishment politician at a time when anti-establishment sentiment was especially high. Trump can hardly say the same as he has now made the entire GOP in his image.
E) Lots of people - guided by media reports suggesting as much - thought Clinton was nailed on to win, so didn't bother to turn out or thought they could safely vote for a third party candidate.
F) Trump did not yet have a majority of Americans asking to have him impeached.
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Clinton and Warren are both women. But the candidates are quite different and circumstances are extremely different.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)of RW slurs against Clinton and she was both damned for staying with Bill after Monica ... and would have been damned if she hadn't.
Then there's the little issue of Russian troll farms and the bots.
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But still, there is a small but persistent group of Dems who apparently will NEVER be ready to vote for a woman candidate.
That is not only sad. It is, IMO, stupid to the nth degree.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Although many keep trying, lol
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden