from recent Fox News polling except the finding that Biden is leading Warren 32-22 -- then this poll is as likely to be accurate as the polls showing the numbers shifting in the opposite direction, which Warren supporters seem very fond of.

+20 is way way out.

No sour grapes...

the polls are what the polls are

A few more polls like this and Joe will be riding high in the saddle again!

But, hey, the polls are what the polls are.

Honestly, I hope the Biden Campaign believes this poll. I really do.

It's not over till Dick calls it +30

He's obviously on a roll!

It's the turn around the Biden campaign has been waiting for!

WOW!

how can they lose?

Typical of the man to throw restraint and credibility to the wind, early in the piece.

Joe's polling chart is going to take off like a rocket now.

This was simply an amazingly strong poll result for Biden... +20. WOW.

I am jealous for my candidate.

and personally supervises the Harvard-Harris Poll

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=303903

HarrisX Partners with Veteran Pollster Scott Rasmussen on New Daily Poll Tracking American Political Sentiment

https://blog.harrisx.com/blog/2018/08/harrisx-partners-with-veteran-pollster-scott-rasmussen-on-new-daily-poll-tracking-american-political-sentiment


https://scottrasmussen.com/







Harvard-Harris Poll

https://theharrispoll.com/our-firm/#leadership-sec




https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/HHP_September2019_Topline_RegisteredVoters.pdf

https://stagwellgroup.com/press/press-release-stagwell-media-llc-relaunch-harris-brand-including-harris-poll/


I didn't know that the primary tracking poll was a partnership with Scott Rasmussen. How perfect! Two political pigs wallowing in the mud together.

HarrisX is Scott Rasmussen, and Harvard-Harris is Mark Penn

You are mistaken, sorry.

STAGWELL BUYS NIELSEN MOBILE ASSETS, CREATES HARRISX


US investment advisory company The Stagwell Group has acquired Nielsen’s Mobile Insights Survey and Total Communications Survey, which will relaunch under the name HarrisX. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Dritan NeshoStagwell was formed in 2015 by Penn Schoen Berland co-founder Mark Penn. Soon after launch, the firm acquired Nielsen’s entertainment research subsidiary NRG; and in January, it bought the Harris brand and Harris Poll from Nielsen. As part of the latest deal, HarrisX will join what is now known as Harris Insights and Analytics, offering mobile industry trends insights to telecoms and smartphone clients. HarrisX will offer two tracker surveys: the Mobile Insights telecoms industry survey tracker, providing insights on all carrier and device-related consumer behavior, perceptions, preferences and motivations; and the Total Communications Survey performance tracker, to measure the current and intended behavior and motivators of consumers across video, Internet and streaming services.

https://stagwellgroup.com/press/stagwell-buys-nielsen-mobile-assets-creates-harrisx/

what umbrella firm owns them.

Ask yourself, if they are the same poll, why do they give two different polling results?

is being run, not as a partnership, into which Harris might have some say, but as an independent operation by Scott Rasmussen, which Harris is happy to put it's name on? It's possible, but strikes me as unlikely.

BOTH polls are RW run, and owned by Penn's umbrella firm

HarrisX is even worse than Harvard-Harris, due to Rasmussen being the man behind the screen

Rasmussen and Penn are both odious

my other post just now:

and personally supervises the Harvard-Harris Poll

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=303903

Penn is MAGA

Mark Penn is a DINO turned RWer and runs Harvard-Harris, which is a shit poll

Scott Rasmussen (who sold off the straight up RW Trump/Rethug favourite for years poll Rasmussen Reports years ago) always was a RWer and runs the even worse HarrisX poll

they are both owned by Penn's umbrella firm

and the details matters - which is why I enjoy 'arguing' with you. You are the best here on polls - and I usually end up learning something - in this case something very important - Scott Rasmussen administers the HarrisX tracking poll- and that means it's worse than worthless. Thank you

The German octopus had a success rate of approximately 85.7% for the World Cup. That makes him more reliable than this C+ rated poll.

PS - You ever watch A Christmas Story?

C+

Warren leading Biden by several points are a bigger divergence from that than this Harris X poll is.

Joe might be doing even better.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287285230

That was a few weeks ago, but after the last debate.

but the pollster. As I said in a DU reply, 'Mark Penn is dishonest, political insider who has spent a life time trading in favors, a man of little integrity, so - is there is reason to trust in the integrity of the polls he not only owns, but supervises? Cite with caution'.

When a result is two or more standard deviations from the poll average, there is reason to be cautious. When the pollster is Penn, that does double.

Morning Consult has set up a system that returns similar results week after week. Harris is a run by a political animal, who can not be trusted. Fish and Fowl.

the polls are what the polls are!

Enjoy this great poll result for Joe.

But...

the polls are what the polls are

Enjoy this fantastic poll for Joe!

#NEW National Fox News Poll:

Biden 32%
Warren 22%
Sanders 17%
Harris 5%
Buttigieg 4%
O'Rourke 3%
Booker 2%
Klobuchar 2%
Yang 2%

From YouGuv Blue/ Data For Progress : Warren 36% Biden 23% Sanders 15% Buttigieg 6% Harris 5% (From Latest Polls 538) …. The numbers for Biden and Warren are all over the place ….. Warren is either pulling ahead of the pack - or is still way behind Joe …..Some of these pollsters are full of beans ...We will find out when real voting begins …. This poll focuses heavily on the issue of who is "paying attention to the news" .. Too much in my opinion …. A lot of voters are not cable news junkies or avid readers of The Washington Pot

Biden Campaign, enjoy this fantastic poll for Joe.

The polls are what the polls are.

I must say, I am very jealous.

Joe is +20 in this poll!

And as I always say...

the polls are what the polls are

Let's ALL celebrate such a stunning turn-around in this poll with Joe at +20 !!!

The Fox poll IS LEGIT (not saying it is correct or not in terms of the 10 point Biden lead, I think that that number is fairly close to the actual lead nationally, which I would peg at 5% to 8% for Biden over Warren atm).

Not only that but Scott Rasmussen (who runs HarrisX) is a RWer, who has had a clear agenda for decades. Not only that but the same poll (HarrisX) showed Trump with a 49% approval rating post impeachment enquiry announcement, which is the same as the KNOWN-to-be dodgy, RW Rasmussen Reports poll shows (Scott Rasmussen sold RR off years ago.)

The Morning Consult is similar to HarrisX as well, but a bit better.

Posting HarrisX every day is just a study in wish fulfilment at this point. There is simply no way a national poll showing a twenty point lead (which is literally DOUBLE the spread of a LEGIT great for Biden poll ie. Fox) is anything but that.

a week in late August after noticing the likely/definite voter results, but I've posted them only a handful of times since September 1. Less than once a week, averaged.

I tend to post polls when I see them, but I ignore most of these because they are so frequent.

The results they're finding really aren't all that different from the A-rated SurveyUSA poll that found Biden at 33% and Warren at 19%.

It is by far the most posted poll in the entire DP forum, by a wide distance

comes up at 538.

I just used Advanced Search to look back at OPs posted in this forum the last two months, back to August 12, using the search terms

harris

and

harris x

to get all OPs about the poll (and I had to skim past all the OPs referring to Kamala Harris).

The polls posted were for:

Oct. 8-11 (this one)

Oct. 1-4

Sept. 28 - Oct. 1

Sept. 25-28

Sept. 10-13

Aug. 26-29

Aug. 24-27

Aug. 23-26



There were also a few threads about Hill/Harris and Harvard/Harris polls, which are different polls. I think one of those polls was posted by two people. But I've sometimes seen polls favoring Warren posted by several people.

Re the August polls, there were separate OPs for likely voters as well as registered voters, since 538 had started posting both poll results for Harris X. That wasn't done for the later polls.

and RCP link to (RCP uses The Hill as the linkage, 538 links right to Rasmussen's spreadsheets)

The pretty RW Hill, (where the scum John Solomon worked at and pushed the Biden Ukraine bullshit for months) partners with HarrisX

Scott Rasmussen is a RWer (he founded and then sold off the odious RW Rasmussen Reports poll years ago, it is the Trump and Rethug favourite, as it oversamples RWer far too much)

Mark Penn is a DINO turned RWer and runs the separate (from HarrisX) Harvard-Harris poll

Penn's umbrella firm Stagwell Group owns both HarrisX and Harvard-Harris, 2 separate polls (Penn himself runs Harvard-Harris)

and The Hill is also basically RW, with some balancing articles that are sometimes legit

it's a RW clusterfuck

538 lists all 3 on their latest polls page, I believe. RCP doesn't list Harris X but does list Harvard/Harris (not sure about Hill/Harris).

If you don't like the polls, don't pay any attention to them.

This was explained in detail up thread by another DUer:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287306236#post38

Nice little creative shuffle, hmmm? Having the same right wing principals pushing out multiple "separate polls"... nice trick.

and owned by the same umbrella group owned by one of the RWers.

They are RW foxes in the hen house, designed to cause conflict and steer opinion for max chaos.

The Hill (HarrisX partner) just so happens to sponsor the most dodgy of all the major polls`(run by a decades long RW pollster) in terms of overrating Biden AND YET ALSO just so happens to have been the biggest source pushing the Biden Burisma Ukraine scandal RW conspiracy theory.

Coincidence?

Not in my book. It is classic non-linear warfare/reflexive control tactics.

Create a fog of war, destroy valid measurements and norms, zig when all else in a normal predictive system says you will ZAG.

Non-Linear Warfare and Reflexive Control - NATO Defense College

http://www.ndc.nato.int/download/downloads.php?icode=467


What is Hybrid Warfare?

https://globalsecurityreview.com/hybrid-and-non-linear-warfare-systematically-erases-the-divide-between-war-peace/


Redefining Hybrid Warfare: Russia’s Nonlinear War against the West

http://scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1538&context=jss


Putin’s Way of War
The ‘War’ in Russia’s ‘Hybrid Warfare’

http://ssi.armywarcollege.edu/pubs/parameters/issues/Winter_2015-16/9_Monaghan.pdf


The Hidden Author of Putinism
How Vladislav Surkov invented the new Russia

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/hidden-author-putinism-russia-vladislav-surkov/382489/

“I am the author, or one of the authors, of the new Russian system,” Vladislav Surkov told us by way of introduction. On this spring day in 2013, he was wearing a white shirt and a leather jacket that was part Joy Division and part 1930s commissar. “My portfolio at the Kremlin and in government has included ideology, media, political parties, religion, modernization, innovation, foreign relations, and ...”—here he pauses and smiles—“modern art.” He offers to not make a speech, instead welcoming the Ph.D. students, professors, journalists, and politicians gathered in an auditorium at the London School of Economics to pose questions and have an open discussion. After the first question, he talks for almost 45 minutes, leaving hardly any time for questions after all. It’s his political system in miniature: democratic rhetoric and undemocratic intent.

& DU'ers know Rasmussen from way back.