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Cha

(297,317 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:23 PM Oct 2019

Joe Biden Is Right About The New York Times



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Early Thursday, the Biden campaign sent a letter to The New York Times criticizing the paper for its coverage of President Trump’s allegations about Hunter Biden. The letter spotlighted recent reporting from the paper’s own Ken Vogel, as well as an op-ed on Hunter Biden from Peter Schweizer, a Breitbart contributor best known for his 2015 book, Clinton Cash, which contained inaccurate claims about Hillary and Bill Clinton. This is the second time the Biden campaign has clashed publicly with the press in recent weeks—in late September, another letter was sent to the major networks asking them to stop booking Rudy Giuliani, given his round the clock efforts to promote debunked conspiracy theories about Biden.

https://newrepublic.com/article/155357/joe-biden-right-new-york-times


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Joe Biden Is Right About The New York Times (Original Post) Cha Oct 2019 OP
"Embattled former front runner." cwydro Oct 2019 #1
The process of Gore, Kerry and Clinton WA-03 Democrat Oct 2019 #4
You're right. cwydro Oct 2019 #5
May the best person win! WA-03 Democrat Oct 2019 #6
Yes, may the best person to beat trump Cha Oct 2019 #20
Mahalo, WA-03! Cha Oct 2019 #17
Thanks, Cha! K&R! highplainsdem Oct 2019 #2
Thank you, highplainsdem! Cha Oct 2019 #3
This is why I cancelled my NYT's subscription peggysue2 Oct 2019 #7
It's despicable, Peggysue.. thank you Cha Oct 2019 #9
Same! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #10
Media bashing!1!e!1 Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #8
Actually it's Exposing Ken Vogel, Peter Schweizer.. Cha Oct 2019 #13
Who is this Tom Watson guy? Trump attacks the NYT. This guy attacks the NYT. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #22
Look around.. Many people are cancelling their subscriptions Cha Oct 2019 #24
Canceled digital subscription. Will never buy that rag now. You did the right thing years ago. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #29
Thank you, emmaverybo! I know Cha Oct 2019 #30
Tom Watson had been attacking Trump since Trump announced in 2015. Blue_true Oct 2019 #33
Yes he has.. Mahalo for that, Blue_true Cha Oct 2019 #36
Thanks Cha. nt Blue_true Oct 2019 #37
This is troubling for Bernie. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #41
Absolutely correct crazytown Oct 2019 #11
The NYT is with the treasonous, murderous, Cha Oct 2019 #18
Are they in the business of reporting facts (the news) or the propaganda business? dlk Oct 2019 #12
NYT insists there are no lessons to learn from 2016 bc they didn't do anything wrong Cha Oct 2019 #19
NY Times has gotten lost coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #14
We know it's been a depressing influence Cha Oct 2019 #23
I am disappointed coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #32
The NYT has Fallen to the Cha Oct 2019 #35
Truth coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #42
Sorry about your brother.. he has that Cha Oct 2019 #43
Fake news, fake president, fake kids who behave like members of his cabinet. coeur_de_lion Oct 2019 #44
Exactly! Reality VS Cha Oct 2019 #45
Go, Joe! Trying to rewrite history doesn't make it history. The truth eventually becomes history, ancianita Oct 2019 #15
"The truth eventually becomes history..." brilliant. I suppose NYT will be unrepentant, however, emmaverybo Oct 2019 #31
Evil is always busier, more profitable and addictive. But journalism catches up. If it's not NYT ancianita Oct 2019 #39
Mahalo, ancianita! Cha Oct 2019 #38
When the Editor never passed Journalism 101 ... GeorgeGist Oct 2019 #16
Classic NYT Cha Oct 2019 #21
Agree.. Cha Oct 2019 #25
After being called "the failing New York Times" so often by Trump... Beartracks Oct 2019 #26
The cowering NYT wants to make sure they live up to Cha Oct 2019 #27
Recommended. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #28
Yes.. if they're trying to be sneaky Cha Oct 2019 #40
Well now the NY Times is going to have its hands full going after the Trumpsters children Peacetrain Oct 2019 #34
Yes, how many times has the NYT Cha Oct 2019 #46
Someone needs to do an expose(acute accent on the last e) PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #47
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
1. "Embattled former front runner."
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:30 PM
Oct 2019

Is that what they’re calling him now?

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WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
4. The process of Gore, Kerry and Clinton
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:38 PM
Oct 2019

Is now being leveled on VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN by the exact same news organization.

I have called him Vice President since 08, yourself?



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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
5. You're right.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:43 PM
Oct 2019

I found that description disappointing.

He is Vice-President Biden.

He’s not my choice this time, but I have nothing but respect for him.

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WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
6. May the best person win!
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:50 PM
Oct 2019

Let’s get out the vote for one last time!

One shot!

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
20. Yes, may the best person to beat trump
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 03:49 PM
Oct 2019

WIN! :grouhug:

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
17. Mahalo, WA-03!
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 03:00 PM
Oct 2019

Vice President Biden

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
3. Thank you, highplainsdem!
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:35 PM
Oct 2019

Damn there's always something!

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peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
7. This is why I cancelled my NYT's subscription
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 01:56 PM
Oct 2019

The Schweizer Oped was the final straw. If editors of the paper want to take this track, pretend that running the words of a conspiracy, sleaze merchant is all about the First Amendment? They can do it without me. Schweizer is no better than Alex Jones. That fact that 'newspaper of record' would publish straight up disinformation is disgusting.

The New York Times failed miserably.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
9. It's despicable, Peggysue.. thank you
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 02:20 PM
Oct 2019

for not putting up with it! I cancelled my subscription when I was living in New York back in 2003.. They underplayed the world wide protests to the War on Iraq.. I was there and looking forward to the coverage in the NYT.. and nothing. It was below the fold and mostly about a scuffle with a policeman on a horse than the Peaceful protests of hundreds of thousands of People in a below freezing temperatures in NYC on February 15, 2003.

And, then there was Judy Miller's propaganda that she never apologized for.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
13. Actually it's Exposing Ken Vogel, Peter Schweizer..
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 02:41 PM
Oct 2019

and, Dean Baquet.. rw propaganda pushers..


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Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
22. Who is this Tom Watson guy? Trump attacks the NYT. This guy attacks the NYT.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:07 PM
Oct 2019

Watson is very trumpian. What’s next? Calling it the failing New York Times?

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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,317 posts)
24. Look around.. Many people are cancelling their subscriptions
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:16 PM
Oct 2019

to the NYT because of gas lighting rw opinions from Ken Vogel, Peter Schweizer, and Dean Baquet.

The asshole Psychopathic trump isn't braying about them.

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
29. Canceled digital subscription. Will never buy that rag now. You did the right thing years ago.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 05:03 PM
Oct 2019
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Cha

(297,317 posts)
30. Thank you, emmaverybo! I know
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 05:13 PM
Oct 2019

the NYT has some decent OPs there like Paul Krugman but the gas lighting propaganda infinitely outweighs the good, in our country's and her people's crisis of our lives.. They're playing with fire and they're the ones who deserve to get burned.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. Tom Watson had been attacking Trump since Trump announced in 2015.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 06:05 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:20 PM - Edit history (1)

His creds are authentic. I think that he is disgusted with the sloven coverage that the NYT gives Trump versus how aggressively it covers democrats.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
36. Yes he has.. Mahalo for that, Blue_true
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:07 PM
Oct 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. Thanks Cha. nt
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 08:19 PM
Oct 2019
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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. This is troubling for Bernie.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 08:59 AM
Oct 2019

(our two posts posses the same amount of substance and rational thought... that is, none)

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
11. Absolutely correct
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 02:34 PM
Oct 2019

The NYT are not MIA, they are with trump.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
18. The NYT is with the treasonous, murderous,
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 03:20 PM
Oct 2019

Psychopath. It makes them no better.

Mahalo, crazytown

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dlk

(11,569 posts)
12. Are they in the business of reporting facts (the news) or the propaganda business?
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 02:39 PM
Oct 2019

As much as they try, they can’t have it both ways.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
19. NYT insists there are no lessons to learn from 2016 bc they didn't do anything wrong
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 03:41 PM
Oct 2019


You're right, dlk.. they can't have it both ways.. Mahalo!
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coeur_de_lion

(3,680 posts)
14. NY Times has gotten lost
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 02:45 PM
Oct 2019

I canceled my subscription and now I rarely read them. Not that different from Fox. They are in trump's corner and I have no idea why!

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
23. We know it's been a depressing influence
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:08 PM
Oct 2019

when so many people are cancelling their subscriptions in the wake of their reporting from such a rw-gas lighting angle.

Mahalo, coerur_de_lion

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coeur_de_lion

(3,680 posts)
32. I am disappointed
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 06:04 PM
Oct 2019

I treat them like Faux News now and pay no attention to them.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
35. The NYT has Fallen to the
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 07:31 PM
Oct 2019

very depths of the abyss.. they should be so ashamed of themselves. I imagine writers like Paul Krugman is ashamed of them.

Our country is only fighting for its very life.

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coeur_de_lion

(3,680 posts)
42. Truth
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 09:34 AM
Oct 2019

My brother in law keeps posting stuff about how Dems are perverting the Constitution.

We made a truce a few years ago so I say nothing. But I am dying to ask him if what he wants is Russia and Ukraine running the country.

People are behaving as if we are not in crisis. NYT is shameful now.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
43. Sorry about your brother.. he has that
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 06:22 PM
Oct 2019

exactly backwards. We're in a fight for our lives against FAKE new.

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coeur_de_lion

(3,680 posts)
44. Fake news, fake president, fake kids who behave like members of his cabinet.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 06:25 PM
Oct 2019

Fake fucking everything.

We're fighting. We WILL win. Have to.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
45. Exactly! Reality VS
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 06:30 PM
Oct 2019

The Twilight Zone

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ancianita

(36,081 posts)
15. Go, Joe! Trying to rewrite history doesn't make it history. The truth eventually becomes history,
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 02:47 PM
Oct 2019

Last edited Sun Oct 13, 2019, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)

and stands the test of time, propaganda and fact erasures.

If the NYT helps 45 win again -- the best it can hope for if he becomes the once and future dictator, is that he doesn't shut it down or rename it Fashistskiye vremena, The Fascist Times.

NYT? You'd better get fit to print! Or you'll no longer be the paper of record.



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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
31. "The truth eventually becomes history..." brilliant. I suppose NYT will be unrepentant, however,
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 05:17 PM
Oct 2019

as in the past.

Do believe we will see the Trump machine exposed, the whole enabling gang rounded up in some fashion—prison or power-stripping and shame—Barr, Nunes, all the dirty henchmen taken down, and Republican Party crippled for a few generations.

Wish it were today. America can wait a little, but not our Kurdish allies.

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ancianita

(36,081 posts)
39. Evil is always busier, more profitable and addictive. But journalism catches up. If it's not NYT
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:56 AM
Oct 2019

it will be Mercury News or Miami Herald.

A lot of this stuff gets started at local levels, and only gets the Big Frame later with mainstream palace guard papers.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
38. Mahalo, ancianita!
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 12:25 AM
Oct 2019
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GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)
16. When the Editor never passed Journalism 101 ...
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 02:51 PM
Oct 2019

what do you expect?

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
25. Agree..
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:27 PM
Oct 2019


We're talking FAKE-GASLIGHTING NEWS
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Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
26. After being called "the failing New York Times" so often by Trump...
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:43 PM
Oct 2019

... why is it that their response is to actually fail??

=======

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
27. The cowering NYT wants to make sure they live up to
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:52 PM
Oct 2019

trump's accusations.

In recent years the times has become a leading perpetrator of one of the most corrosive trends in modern journalism—“savvy” reporting that prizes the identification of disingenuous political tactics at the expense of focusing on the facts that voters need to know. This unfortunate tendency was visible in the days the scandal that has led Trump to the brink of impeachment broke, as the Times rehashed this hateful and disproven conspiracy theory as though it hadn’t been put to bed. Two of our staff members, when discussing the Trump news with a pair of Times reporters, were stopped as they tried to outline how disproven the smear Trump wanted to pressure Ukraine into fomenting was, being told that this piece wasn’t about the facts of what happened and instead had to do with trying to forecast how it might play in the Democratic primary.

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
28. Recommended.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 04:58 PM
Oct 2019

Pretending that a lie is equivalent to the truth is not balanced journalism. It is engaging in promoting propaganda.

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
40. Yes.. if they're trying to be sneaky
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 01:33 AM
Oct 2019

about it .. they're failing miserably.

Mahalo, guillaumeb

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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
34. Well now the NY Times is going to have its hands full going after the Trumpsters children
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 06:22 PM
Oct 2019

and how they abuse their situations to ingratiate themselves with foreign powers.. right.. right..NY Times.. I am right aren't I .. You are preparing all the expose on the Trumpsters family especially those who are working as advisers.. correct.. hmmmmmmmmmmm

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
46. Yes, how many times has the NYT
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:05 AM
Oct 2019

gone after trump's adult kids for whatever the hell they're doing?

Mahalo, Peacetrain

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PhoenixDem

(581 posts)
47. Someone needs to do an expose(acute accent on the last e)
Tue Oct 15, 2019, 08:19 AM
Oct 2019

Someone neds to do an exposé of NY Times -- a rival news organization to see whether it is negligence or willful and malicious conduct.

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