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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts) Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:03 AM Oct 2019

Biden Seeks to Keep Presidential Air as He Picks Away at Warren

Joe Biden isn’t giving up his front-runner mantle without a fight, refusing to acknowledge that Elizabeth Warren has met him at the top of the 2020 Democratic field and moving to take her on directly on the campaign trail.

Her rise -- she now meets or surpasses him in key state and national polls -- has raised questions about whether he can still campaign as the only candidate who can beat President Donald Trump.

While insisting the No. 1 slot is still his, his tactics have shifted, beginning in Tuesday’s Democratic debate. He called Warren “ridiculous” in her refusal to spell out how she’d pay for the $30 trillion Medicare for All program and suggested she is a foreign-policy novice for calling for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from the Middle East.

He is leaning heavily into appearing presidential. His events are designed more for the Rose Garden than for an Iowa community center, with a schedule heavy on formal speeches targeting President Donald Trump and fundraisers on the coasts. His remarks include frequent mentions of former President Barack Obama and hours spent in the White House Situation Room.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-19/biden-seeks-to-keep-presidential-air-as-he-picks-away-at-warren?srnd=politics-vp

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden Seeks to Keep Presidential Air as He Picks Away at Warren (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Oct 2019 OP

there is no state that warren can win that Joe Biden would not win and lots of states Warren has beachbumbob Oct 2019 #1

Until the votes are in and counted, we continue to not know what we don't know. Warren will Ninga Oct 2019 #2

I did a calculation last night of the early states where polls are available... George II Oct 2019 #4

Thanks for this. I have absolutely no doubt that Biden will be the nominee. NT Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #5

Your delegate estimate is a lot better than the CBS News Estmate ritapria Oct 2019 #7

Thank you. I don't know what they used for their estimates, but... George II Oct 2019 #8

Nonsense...I know her supporters think she can win these voters over but she can' and she won't...we Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #9

Interesting that in the last 10 days or so Biden has gone from a virtual tie.... George II Oct 2019 #3

This... thx too for your run down of the EC vote above Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #6

For this thread Gothmog Oct 2019 #10

Biden beared his teeth at the last debate. Sure it was at Warren's expense... Kahuna7 Oct 2019 #11

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)

1. there is no state that warren can win that Joe Biden would not win and lots of states Warren has

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:15 AM

Oct 2019

little or NO chance to win that Joe Biden CAN WIN. Thats the bottom line here and you only fool yourself in thinking otherwise.

Why Biden been targeted since 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Ninga

(8,275 posts)

2. Until the votes are in and counted, we continue to not know what we don't know. Warren will

Reply to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:26 AM

Oct 2019

either win over voters or she will not. You may be right, and then again, not.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

4. I did a calculation last night of the early states where polls are available...

Reply to Ninga (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:37 AM

Oct 2019

....every state through March 3 except AL, TN, AR, MN, and UT. Here's the delegate tally (give or take a few):

Biden - 671
Warren - 370
Sanders - 281

This includes the huge states of California and Texas. He'll get 48.6% of the delegates in those states!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)

5. Thanks for this. I have absolutely no doubt that Biden will be the nominee. NT

Reply to George II (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:49 AM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ritapria

(1,812 posts)

7. Your delegate estimate is a lot better than the CBS News Estmate

Reply to George II (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:27 AM

Oct 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

George II

(67,782 posts)

8. Thank you. I don't know what they used for their estimates, but...

Reply to ritapria (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 11:33 AM

Oct 2019

...they included five states that I excluded because there are no polls available from which to estimate.

The states I included are: ME, NH, VT, MA,VA, NC, SC, OK, TX, IA, CO, NV, CA

The states I excluded are: AL,TN, AR, MN, UT

As of now, pending a few scattered District delegates, only Bide, Warren, and Sanders qualify for delegates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)

9. Nonsense...I know her supporters think she can win these voters over but she can' and she won't...we

Reply to Ninga (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 09:04 PM

Oct 2019

nominate Warren and we lose...many here have lost site of the purpose of the election...remove Trump. She has my vote but I say she loses the EC and wins the popular vote and maybe we lose the house too...sure I will vote for her in a general... I even like her but she is not the nominee we need in 20.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

3. Interesting that in the last 10 days or so Biden has gone from a virtual tie....

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sat Oct 19, 2019, 10:33 AM

Oct 2019

...in the RCP averages (which until a few weeks ago has been the "gold standard" for years) to a 5.8% lead, 29.2% to 23.4%.

Everyone is trying to bury Biden even while he's drawing away. Someone elsewhere this morning was talking about "when he drops out", which is laughable!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden