In the coming days reporting will most likely show that Hillary spoke the truth. Gabbard has to explain to voters why she is so beloved by Russia.

Or was. Stuck at 0-1%, not qualifying for the next debate, on her way to obscurity. What a blunder by HRC. Punching down is never a good idea.

truth to Power and many people are grateful.

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Just curious.

The last thing any Democrat, not just Hillary, should be doing is distracting voters' attention from the top-tier Democrats and the issues that We The People want them to focus on.


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and if she doesn't and is being used, Russians will have more to work with.

How Hillary Clinton Boosted Tulsi Gabbard
The 2016 Democratic nominee is right to worry about the congresswoman from Hawaii—but overshot the mark by calling her a Russian asset while offering no proof.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/hillary-clinton-elevating-tulsi-gabbard/600370/

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Like Buttigieg this morning, who handled the question pretty well, but is being pushed by Jake Tapper for not giving a yes/no answer on the Russian asset “smear” as he put it:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/10/20/tulsi-gabbard-hillary-clinton-pete-buttigieg-intv-sotu-sot-vpx.cnn

a fucking 3rd party run now.

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Secretary Clinton has put both the Russians and the press on notice. She did it early, and she did it in way that takes the heat off the Democrats who are running.

A New York Times story that raised questions about Tulsi last week got little to no traction. The same can be said of an NBC News Report last February, a followup piece in The Independent, and all the speculation concerning the Russian bot activity following Tulsi's dissembling attack on Senator Harris.

Thanks to Secretary Clinton, any possibility that Tulsi (who just 10 days ago was accusing the DNC of rigging debates) will launch a third party campaign has been seriously diminished. Hopefully, any candidate who does so will now draw increased scrutiny concerning the possibility of Russian interference and sabotage.

Secretary Clinton learned the lessons of 2016 well, even if the press and pundits haven't. She's doing everything she can to make sure that the Democrats win the White House in 2020, even if it invites the ridicule of the Jake Tappers and Chuck Todds of the world.

After all, it was they who missed the biggest story of a generation last time around.

And it was Hillary Clinton who didn't.

Thanks Hillary.

Yeah, some wish Hillary would go back to the woods.. but they lose. She is fully engaged!

Mahalo, lapucelle, for making this into an OP, too.. where it belongs!

To this thread

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212603103

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she will be much more effective now because she is on the map now. And if the Russians are just using her because she is anti-Dem establishment, now they can get more mileage. I don't know what Hillary was thinking on this.

She's a useful tool of russia which means she's an asset to them.

Also, this might peel votes off from Bernie but no one else. I can see some Bernie supporters who may think Bernie is too old or are concerned about his health moving to Gabbard to defend her. Supporters from other candidates won't move, I don't think.

When asked if Clinton was referring to Gabbard, the Clinton aide Nick Merrill said, “If the nesting doll fits …”

It still doesn't point the finger at Gabbard.

Funny how everyone knew exactly who she was talking about, thought. Including Gabbard.

Anyone who follows this stuff at all knew HRC had to be talking about TG, the only one who has had the Russian claim made about her and plenty of times. Heck, you could probably find it in a hundred DU posts. No such accusation has ever been leveled against Harris, Klobuchar, etc. Anyone who cliams that Hillary was being "it could be anyone" vague has their head in the sand.

no one ever named Gabbard. The fact that everyone knows it IS Gabbard simply shows how on-the-mark Hillary's statement was.

Smh.

My disagreement is with the “or was” part. Give it a week.

A random sample, are they?

There were all kinds of articles attempting to pump her chances, with all her celebrity endorsements when the fact had always been her numbers were in the tank. She never had a chance, and neither does Tulsi.

if Hillary had just ignored her. But, having outed Tulsi, it's now incumbent upon Hillary to produce the evidence she surely has showing Tulsi to be a Russian agent... there's no reason to wait.


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even to back it up? IMO her numbers won't change. Dem voters are pretty knowledgeable and can figure out Gabbard.

on Hillary showing she'd Not Presidential at all.

TG talks about "peace" but she clings to Assad who gases his own people.

And there's this crap on putin from gabbard..

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No ground Game in Iowa translates into No Hope for Tulsi in Iowa ….. It's a caucus state ...You need good organizers and field directors as well tons of energetic volunteers to make a dent in Iowa …….

I have seen plenty of billboards with her face and name on them in SC, but no other candidates have gone for billboards in SC at this time.

The woman is delusional.

could have done the admirable thing by resigning but chose not to

It is sad that this bogus story will be picked up off the wire by so many outlets.

to substantiate the writer's claims. It's speculation masquerading as fact.

and it looks more like the nomination is going to go to either Warren, Biden or Bernie.
I could be wrong of course but that is how I see it.

who speaks out for peace."

... Tulsi previously said the race was now down to herself and Hillary. She was explicit. Yet, the press and polls in Iowa do not reflect a Tulsi-Hillary race. I do concede that Tulsi will be polling second, after Hillary; when the new information Tulsi referred to is released, 2nd place will be a huge advance for Tulsi.

No evidence of "elevation" provided.
No polls mentioned.

There'll be plenty of time during the general election when we all can rally around our nominee. But HRC, who I supported wholeheartedly, should step back for now. She is a lightning rod for the opposition, the Russians and anyone else who wants to cause dissension and animosity in the Democratic primaries.

Tulsi is not going to be the nominee and HRC should not have elevated her and given her the opportunity to get all the media coverage she's now getting.

She should not remain silent. She is a private citizen just like you and me and she has every right to her opinion and to voice that opinion, just like we do.

If you or I said what HRC said, Tulisi would not be commenting and tweeting and getting all the publicity she's has gotten because of HRC's comments. This is just what the opposition wants; dissension in the Democratic ranks.

HRC was the Democratic candidate for President in the last election. She is a public figure who the RW vilifies every chance they get. The RW and Russians could give a big Fuck about anything you or I may say.

She has a pretty good track record when it comes to outing them. And dissension within the Democratic ranks is what was going on these past few months as Gabbard was railing against the DNC for being biased against her and taking other pot shots at our party. Maybe if people like yourself had been calling her out on her divisive bullshit, Hillary wouldn't have had to.

Hillary should not sit down, she should not shut up, and she should not go away.

But better to work behind the scenes than open the door for Tulsi to get attention. Tulsi will be out of the race soon enough. There is no overwhelming need to call her out on her bullshit by HRC. Anyone with half a brain knows she is a compromised candidate.

If there's a need to disseminate information, then HRC can do it behind the scenes, which I'm sure she's doing. The ends (publicity for Tulsi) did not justify the means.

Tulsi has been a Kremlin propaganda mouthpiece for quite some time, just like Stein was before her. She's a whack job cultist and a homophobic bigot. Hillary was right then and she's right now. If we can't call that out, then we're done for.

She is at best 1%. HRC's jab at her only gives Tulsi's campaign more oxygen and publicity. Media has seized on this feud and it gave Tulsi more exposure than she would have otherwise gotten. Right? Would we be talking about TG, would the media? No.

This isn't going to do shit to help Tulsi. She was barely registering less than 1 percent of support and Hillary isn't even running. And all this is going to do is make people even more wary of third parties and those who run them in the long run.

So I actually see this as a good thing in the long term.

But this is an anti-endorsement; apparently she regards Gabbard's candidacy as potentially dangerous should she go third-party and felt it necessary to say something. I get the point that Gabbard shouldn't be given more attention since she was never going to get the nomination anyhow, but I take this as a warning that there is at least one candidate (whom she does not name, though it's obvious whom she means) who isn't what she claims to be. Maybe it was intended to nip in the bud any thoughts Gabbard might have of doing a Jill Stein.

When she has a 0% chance at the democratic nomination, but might actually be propped up now for real to run third party...

Except I don’t think Hillary generally makes major miscalculations. So the alternative is this is on purpose and she wants her to run third party.

As a third party candidate does TG suddenly become more popular to democrat voters? Or as a third party candidate does TG pick off moderate republicans who want to vote for anyone but Trump or a declared democrat?

There’s a strategy here.

... if not, it was a mistake, I agree.


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DINO DINO DINO

Fuck the AP.

Not finding any real corroborative support, and going with it anyway.

I never realized Gabbard was such a Russian sympathizer.

I do now. That’s something I like knowing.
Also, something Gabbard should answer to. But so far her crappy offense is no defense.
Calling Hillary a warmonger is no defense of herself.

The New York Times had already raised questions about Tulsi last week, and Secretary Clinton never named Tulsi.

to describe a warning about Russian sabotage?

The word implies engagement between two parties who disagree on a superficial matter. Secretary Clinton isn't "spatting" with anyone. She never mentioned Tulsi's name or engaged with her in any way.

Tulsi, for her part, launched a direct and vicious personal attack against Secretary Clinton despite the fact that Secretary Clinton never said a word about her.

Trivializing the warning as an apocryphal "spat" reminds me of the dismissive "Russian meddling" framing of the systematic attack by Russia in the 2016 election.

It's remarkable how many people are latching onto what appear to be talking points in support of a standard narrative.

In what way is this a "spat"?
In what way has this elevated Tulsi?

We now know that Yang and Marianne Williamson are also involved. So there’s that.

support Gabbard because of what Hillary said about her. If they do it's because they still hate Hillary. Nuff said.

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H.R.95: Homeless Veteran Families Act

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H.R.3722: Joint Task Force to Combat Opioid Trafficking Act of 2019

H.R.1146: Arctic Cultural and Coastal Plain Protection Act

Arctic Cultural and Coastal Plain Protection Act (Sec. 2) This bill prohibits the Bureau of Land Management from administering an oil and gas leasing, development, production, and transportation program in and from the Coastal Plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska.

H.R.3239: Humanitarian Standards for Individuals in Customs and Border Protection Custody Act

This bill imposes requirements and standards related to the care of aliens in U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) custody. CBP shall conduct an initial health screening of each alien in custody to identify those with acute conditions and high-risk vulnerabilities and to provide appropriate healthcare.

H.R.582: Raise the Wage Act

Raise the Wage Act This bill amends the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to increase the federal minimum wage for regular employees over a 7-year period, for tipped employees, and for newly hired employees who are less than 20 years old. The bill sets forth a schedule of annual increases in the federal minimum wage for individuals with disabilities.

H.RES.497: Recommending that the House of Representatives find William P. Barr, Attorney General of the United States, and Wilbur L. Ross, Jr., Secretary of Commerce, in contempt of Congress for refusal to comply with subpoenas duly issued by the Committee on Oversight

H.R.2722: SAFE Act

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H.R.986: Protecting Americans with Preexisting Conditions Act of 2019

H.RES.430: Authorizing the Committee on the Judiciary to initiate or intervene in judicial proceedings to enforce certain subpoenas and for other purposes.

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https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/129306/tulsi-gabbard#.Xay11OhKiUl

Do Iowans not support any of these things?

If giving speeches in someone's living room to a crowd of 20 is "elevated", then personally I'm not worried...

Iowa Oblast.