Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumGabbard via Twitter: "I will not be seeking reelection to Congress in 2020."
@TulsiGabbard
I'm fully committed to my offer to serve you, the people of Hawaii & America, as your President & Commander-in-Chief. So I will not be seeking reelection to Congress in 2020. I humbly ask for your support for my candidacy for President of the United States
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)As I put it in another post, BYE FELICIA!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
caraher
(6,278 posts)She was never a true contender for our nomination. This sounds like it could lead to an "independent" run and siphoning off a percent or two in a key state could be very damaging.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Still wants to be president.. and I'll bet a dime to a million she will run as an indy..
shit...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mitch96
(13,911 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
womanofthehills
(8,718 posts)Hillary was right. Now Tulsi is siding with the Republicans about the hearings.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dchill
(38,502 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greyl
(22,990 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandySF
(58,899 posts)Hillary warned us. Im
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)I mean, what else would explain those tweets?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)for Congress.. again!
That means We the People get a real Democratic for our Representative!
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
But local insiders say a primary challenge from state Sen. Kai Kahele is to be taken seriously, in part because he already has high-profile support among towering local officials.
That includes three former governors in the local Democratic establishment: Neil Abercrombie, Ben Cayetano and John Waihee, who don't often appear as a bloc.
"That gives a pretty good indication of how the mainstream Democratic Party here regards her," said Colin Moore, director of the Public Policy Center at the University of Hawaii.
Kahele told CNN on Monday that his campaign had its best day of fundraising when Gabbard and Clinton clashed.
Gabbard has not formally announced a reelection bid for her House seat. Candidates have until June 2, 2020, to file for that November's election.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/21/politics/tulsi-gabbard-2020-hawaii-hillary-clinton/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-10-22T01%3A04%3A06
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)seen that her opponent is probably going to totally thwart her and he could probably expose a lot about her that she wouldn't want to get out...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)she's "..fully committed.. ":scary:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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as long as people are hip to her... I think she'll fade out. Thing about last time around, we learned a lot and I think the majority of us won't be fooled again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)great Congressman.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)about the future.. but he could very well have the spotlight on him winning gabbard's former seat.. when Mr Kahele goes to Washington!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,295 posts)Link to tweet
Kai Kahele:"I remain fully committed to my campaign to becomes Hawaiis next Congressman."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)That seems like a smart bet ..A successful Prime Time Gig translates into several million dollars a year for Tulsi .A massive swing to the right is in store for Tulsi .She's telegenic ...I think she is going to do it ..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,065 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,629 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lostnfound
(16,180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Though if we end up running against someone like Romney, the equation changes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
We don't need those votes, because we were never going to get them anyway. If you are struggling to vote for a democrat, then you aren't going to vote for one. Best outcome for us is they stay home, worst is they hold their nose and vote for Trump. If Tulsi gives them a safe place to cast a protest vote without casting it for Trump, that's a win.
Honestly, anyone who shows up and votes for a 3rd party candidate in this climate was never going to vote to the democrat anyway. It doesn't cost us anything.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)not going to Wisconsin and Michigan enough and say that's why she lost? There are a few Never Trumpers who could vote Democratic I think (although the Trump voters who voted for Obama have become more partisan and racist). I'm not confident that people have learned their lesson about third party candidates. There were people in 2016 who said they didn't vote because they didn't think their vote would make any difference. This, after Bush/Gore. After many very close races in some states.
The Democratic nominee will be harmed by the usual barrage of corrupt-warmonger-neoliberal-racist accusations and the Republican socialist-big government-PC propaganda. Third party could get enough votes in swing states to harm the Democrat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,565 posts)You understand completely their game here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,565 posts)We don't need those votes, because we were never going to get them anyway. If you are struggling to vote for a democrat, then you aren't going to vote for one. Best outcome for us is they stay home, worst is they hold their nose and vote for Trump. If Tulsi gives them a safe place to cast a protest vote without casting it for Trump, that's a win.
No. There are documented voters in swing states who voted for Obama who did vote for Trump in 2016. They're not plugged in like you and I are and they're definitely not our base, nor are they are brightest voters but they're still voters, and we need them to flip these states.
I'm an avid don't bother trying to flip Trump's base person (documented on DU since the site came back up post 2016 hack) but we cannot win the electoral college without these swing vote people. Agree with them or not, they're the deal breakers and the GOP knows this simple fact. Thus their hopes on a Tulsi's 'Hail Mary' type play here. It makes sense on their part, just not on here if she's legit a patriot and a Democrat.
I cannot even begin to tell you how much I wish this were true. Again, unplugged people in fragile (fine, they're not bright and they sway in the wind like ripe wheat) districts we need to win 270 Electoral Votes are easily influenced by this type of crap. It's literally how Trump got in last time. Read up on it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)I know voters in this category, i.e. who disliked Trump in 2016, but they simply would not vote for Hillary. The might have voted for Bernie, though. These votes are not necessarily ungettable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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relayerbob
(6,544 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)Which will it be: third party run, Fox News gig, other?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I'm sure to be followed by a FOX news gig. The deal has been made.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,565 posts)Sad, sad, sad. She's not a patriot by any means.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)a lot of apologies. Even if gabbard doesn't run.. Hillary is right, either way.
Cats
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,565 posts)She knows things and she pays attention. So, I assumed (knowing what I know about Tulsi) she was right.
I'm hoping she forced Tulsi's hand early and weakened her plan.
Cha! As always I'm happy to see you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)when she said trump was "putin's puppet".. and she was right.. so what are many of those same people doing again when she warns about the person who was Not named.. but lost her damn mind when Hillary alluded to a dem candidate who was being groomed by repubs?.. That's right they scoff some more.
And..
NYT corrects its story on Gabbard and Hillary; they misquoted HRC
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287321519
Awesome to see you, Cats.. Mahalo nui loa!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)If she runs 3rd party she will draw indy anarchist that don't vote for democrats anyway and republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)I just can't swallow your BS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,413 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
herding cats
(19,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)She wasn't going to make the debate stage in November so a stunt was required as she was desperate to get attention. Recent polls don't show a convincing response. So basically, her campaign for 2020 leadership of the Democrats has failed.
The primary contender for her seat in Hawaii looks like he was beating her with raising money in Hawaii.
New poll shows favor for Kahele in Gabbard's district
https://www.kitv.com/story/41142391/new-poll-shows-favor-for-kahele-in-gabbards-district
"Two out of three Democratic primary voters in Hawaii's 2nd Congressional District say U.S. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard should give up her presidential aspirations, according to a new survey released Tuesday by Public Policy Polling.
...
One of the more concerning numbers for Gabbard is that 50% of Democratic primary voters said they would prefer to vote for someone else in the upcoming CD2 election."
After she supported Sanders in 2016, her political fortunes went south
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/10/tulsi-gabbard-with-hawaii-donors-house-challenge/
GOP power brokers probably see her as a potential Jill Stein. Promoting her on FOX News probably helps her siphon off Trump voters more than Democrats.
She was my least favorite Dem candidate. I didn't trust her. Her recent actions underscore why I might have felt that way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,831 posts)Damn if Hillary wasn't right again. Gabbard's going to stage an independent run. Wait for it! She's lining herself up to be the next Jill Stein, spoiler extraordinaire. No wonder Gabbard went ballistic after Hillary called her out. Without so much as using her name.
They're going to use the same playbook, straight from 2016. This is going to be so-o-o ugly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
herding cats
(19,565 posts)She announced she's not running for re-election in an oddly worded email and tweet and now FOX (a favorite media outlet of hers here she was just on Hannity's show) is spreading a rumor she's running 3rd party. Yeah, people are gonna talk.
Kick back and see how this one plays out with the rest of us, m'kay?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreeState
(10,572 posts)People that are a political discussion board talking about a politician running for president making news. Its mind boggling aint it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)She's Dropping out of the Hawaii race.. this is big news. Why do you care how many posts there are?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
standingtall
(2,785 posts)and she is dropping out of that race to save face. While she probably plans to run as a 3rd party candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreeState
(10,572 posts)Or the polls
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Afromania
(2,769 posts)I think this one is going to backfire against the GOP. She's going to pull Republicans and "Indys" that simply "can't" vote D but want any excuse to do that and also not vote for Trump. People know better this time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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rampartc
(5,410 posts)I don't see it. I guess it would be nice to appeal to the soccer mom republicans who can not stomach trump, but maybe those voters would split their ticket and vote for repub senators etc.
I would agree with you that energizing our base is NOT divisive and, in fact, is the route to the greater victory.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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rampartc
(5,410 posts)looks like the jury agreed with us this time.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mahina
(17,665 posts)Aloha also means goodbye.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Aloha no Cha. Just got home and was so glad to see she wont be my erp much longer. And then I saw her quote Auntie Pilahi. AS IF she was talking about TG
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,295 posts)be our rep! I saw what you posted about Auntie Pilahi but I hadn't "Read More" so I didn't exactly know what it meant.. except what I got from your context.
I know TG isn't straight up.. and appropriates anything she wants to fit her narrative.. like this from Shery Campagna..
Link to tweet
Mahalo nui loa, mahina!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FM123
(10,053 posts)Kai Kahele for their Representative! He is wonderful!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)Now, go away.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)myself included, have donated to your OPPONENT'S campaign? And of course, Hillary was 100% correct about you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden