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RandySF

(58,911 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 12:50 AM Oct 2019

RUMOR: Gabbard actively considering third-party presidential bid.


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Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino
SCOOP: @TulsiGabbard breaks bread with Wall Street fat cats at @huntandfishnyc; event sponsored by Dem fundraiser @robertwolf32 as she is said to weigh third-party run more now @FoxBusiness @TeamCavuto dotcom story to come
9:31 AM · Oct 24, 2019·Twitter Web App

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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RUMOR: Gabbard actively considering third-party presidential bid. (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2019 OP
Kick Hekate Oct 2019 #1
A third party run. griffi94 Oct 2019 #2
I don't think so DownriverDem Oct 2019 #19
this is correct Celerity Oct 2019 #21
She'd attract fringe types who always reject mainstream choices. Hortensis Oct 2019 #22
Shocker. This election's Jill Stein? Stay tuned. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2019 #3
That would be great news....for Trump. Doodley Oct 2019 #4
I see that 1% of the people on DU support Tulsi Poiuyt Oct 2019 #5
That would not be very patriotic of her in this political climate. herding cats Oct 2019 #6
Looks like Putin has another puppet Rollo Oct 2019 #7
I think it's the Republicans luring her here. herding cats Oct 2019 #9
Since she isn't running for reelection in her state now BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #8
Hillary is connected and smart. herding cats Oct 2019 #10
You nailed it. colorado_ufo Oct 2019 #12
She's polling at 1.3% (RCP Average) B Stieg Oct 2019 #11
She would go away gab13by13 Oct 2019 #13
She was on FOX chumming it up with Hannity once again . I think that says a lot there. YOHABLO Oct 2019 #14
Hillary "Nostradamus" Clinton!!! padah513 Oct 2019 #15
lol & so quick Cha Oct 2019 #17
If Tulsi ran, she'd take votes away from Trump mainer Oct 2019 #16
not if she runs on the Green ticket, & there (hopefully) will be other actual Rethugs running indie Celerity Oct 2019 #23
That's what I think would happen. griffi94 Oct 2019 #24
The Wall street fat cats want someone they can control. redstatebluegirl Oct 2019 #18
Rumor is all it is, and it appears he started it. cwydro Oct 2019 #20
Yeah, but her actions are backing it up. RandySF Oct 2019 #25
She has said that she's not going to run third party. cwydro Oct 2019 #27
Hillary was right mcar Oct 2019 #26
 

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
2. A third party run.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:01 AM
Oct 2019

A third party run at this point probably damages trump
more than our eventual nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,229 posts)
19. I don't think so
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:54 AM
Oct 2019

She will hurt the Dems. I'm a long member of the Democratic Party, but many folks have no party loyality.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,415 posts)
21. this is correct
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:20 AM
Oct 2019

see my analysis here (on a possible 3rd party run)

Some of it is based off a possible Warren nomination for us, but you can pull out the Warren winning the nomination part and still see where I was going in terms of a Gabbard 3rd party run. In fact, a Biden win will more than like increase Gabbard's pull from us, versus a Warren win, BUT, as you will see at that link, a Biden win more than offsets that by taking Schultz (probably) and Bloomberg (absolutely) off the table as possible indie runs.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287306749#post44

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. She'd attract fringe types who always reject mainstream choices.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:24 AM
Oct 2019

By definition they have no party loyalty to lack. Gabbard's behaviors and ethics should be just fine with most. Alternative to the Democratic Party is the key criterion of anyone who would throw their vote away as a gesture of rejection, instead of voting for their principles and goals, and she has it.

They include the ones who insist they believe in our ideals far more than we do but who refused to vote Democrat in 2016 and are promising to do it again. Same as those who refused to vote for Obama in 2008 and Al Gore in 2000. And no doubt the same thing in the other national elections if we looked. Literally no doubt. They're always with us.

They love to claim that Democrats lost them because we don't represent "the people," a theme they're encouraged in by hostile power blocs who amplify it to the nation. But they aren't ours to lose.

Otoh, this is bad news for all those Green and Libertarian candidates no one ever heard of.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
3. Shocker. This election's Jill Stein? Stay tuned.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:01 AM
Oct 2019

Vlad is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Doodley

(9,094 posts)
4. That would be great news....for Trump.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:02 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Poiuyt

(18,125 posts)
5. I see that 1% of the people on DU support Tulsi
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:04 AM
Oct 2019

I can't see anyone supporting her that doesn't wear a red hat or live in Moscow.

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Undecided
 

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
6. That would not be very patriotic of her in this political climate.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:05 AM
Oct 2019

Which is all I'm going to say about this rumor at this point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Rollo

(2,559 posts)
7. Looks like Putin has another puppet
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:07 AM
Oct 2019

Or is it, "Useful Idiot"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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herding cats

(19,565 posts)
9. I think it's the Republicans luring her here.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:21 AM
Oct 2019

That Putin is benefited is a side story.

Hopefully, she wakes up and doesn't go there, but her statement looks like she plans to.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
8. Since she isn't running for reelection in her state now
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:12 AM
Oct 2019

she is going to aim for third party candidate...like no one saw this coming (Hillary knows her stuff).

If I were to vote in a presidential
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herding cats

(19,565 posts)
10. Hillary is connected and smart.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:22 AM
Oct 2019

She forced Tulsi's hand early, which hopefully helps us here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
12. You nailed it.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:53 AM
Oct 2019

That is why Tulsi was so angry and defensive. She went viciously on the attack on Hillary Clinton, and Clinton isn't even running for president.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
11. She's polling at 1.3% (RCP Average)
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:09 AM
Oct 2019

Just go away, Tulsi.

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gab13by13

(21,360 posts)
13. She would go away
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 03:55 AM
Oct 2019

if people would stop giving her publicity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
14. She was on FOX chumming it up with Hannity once again . I think that says a lot there.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:03 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

padah513

(2,503 posts)
15. Hillary "Nostradamus" Clinton!!!
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:45 AM
Oct 2019

She saw that one coming, though I thought sure Jill Stein would go the third party route again. I guess there's plenty of room for her and Tulsi but we'll see.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(297,322 posts)
17. lol & so quick
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:19 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mainer

(12,022 posts)
16. If Tulsi ran, she'd take votes away from Trump
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:57 AM
Oct 2019

Republicans who would never vote for a Democrat may decide to peel away from Trump and give her their protest vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Celerity

(43,415 posts)
23. not if she runs on the Green ticket, & there (hopefully) will be other actual Rethugs running indie
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:36 AM
Oct 2019

campaigns, plus hopefully the Libertarians can talk Johnson into running again, as he was by FAR their best candidate in terms of drawing votes (mainly from the RW). Add the 5.2 MILLION votes Johnson and McMullin (a few states indy run) got, to Trump and he beats Clinton in the EC and in the POPULAR vote as well, even if you add in ALL of the Stein Green Party voters, who totalled only 1.46 million to Clinton, and many of whom never vote Democratic party anyway.

see here (For that example I posit a Warren win in the nom, but put in the more likely case of a Biden win, and it still applies, except for the Schultz/Bloomberg indie run possibilities go away if Biden wins (which is a great thing for us if neither run, and more than offsets the potential gain that Gabbard as a a Green would draw against Biden versus the fewer she would draw from us versus Warren):

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287306749#post44

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
24. That's what I think would happen.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:40 AM
Oct 2019

Tulsa will pull votes from Trump. Repubs who can't stand him, but just can't bring themselves
to vote for a Democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
18. The Wall street fat cats want someone they can control.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:52 AM
Oct 2019

She would be beholding to them. This is terrifying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. Rumor is all it is, and it appears he started it.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:02 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(58,911 posts)
25. Yeah, but her actions are backing it up.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 09:33 AM
Oct 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
27. She has said that she's not going to run third party.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:25 PM
Oct 2019

I’ll believe her until I see different.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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mcar

(42,334 posts)
26. Hillary was right
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 09:56 AM
Oct 2019

She deserves apologies, once again, from her naysayers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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