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TexasTowelie

(112,251 posts) Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:00 PM Oct 2019

Beto O'Rourke 'open to the idea' of letting people use AR-15s, AK-47s at hunting clubs, gun ranges

Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke said Friday he was open to allowing people to use assault-style weapons like AR-15s and AK-47s at gun ranges and hunting clubs, despite his plan to ban the weapons' purchase and to require owners of existing weapons to sell them to the government.

During a visit to North High School in Des Moines that included a tour and town hall-style school assembly, a student told O'Rourke he has used an AR-15 for hunting deer and asked about how O'Rourke's gun policy would affect people who do.

O'Rourke responded that it was the first time he had heard the case for using an AR-15 to hunt deer, but he said he has heard from Texas ranchers and farmers who use them to fend off feral hogs.

"Perhaps a way to address a legitimate concern or need is to ensure that those who have or want to use an AR-15 are able to keep it at a hunting club or at a gun range so that there is some control and safeguard still placed on that firearm," he said.

Read more: https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/candidates/2019/10/25/election-2019-democrat-beto-orourke-open-idea-letting-some-keep-ar-15-s-ak-47-s-hunting-clubs-gun-ra/2456493001/

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Beto O'Rourke 'open to the idea' of letting people use AR-15s, AK-47s at hunting clubs, gun ranges (Original Post) TexasTowelie Oct 2019 OP

That was My idea Beto, kacekwl Oct 2019 #1

Is that what they call the "Texas two-step"? left-of-center2012 Oct 2019 #2

a 5.56 out of an AR would not "chew that carcass up to be useless" aikoaiko Oct 2019 #8

Ha Ha. Beto presents a bad idea and y'all are eatin' it up. Assault weapons were/are designed abqtommy Oct 2019 #3

In our mixed up world, some people actually use them for sport. Blue_true Oct 2019 #7

Google "hunting with an AR-15." ... spin Oct 2019 #10

"If I did ever decide to hunt deer I will likely use a lever action 30-30" left-of-center2012 Oct 2019 #11

I doubt if I will ever take up deer hunting. ... spin Oct 2019 #13

Guess he finally caught on Jake Stern Oct 2019 #4

Beto O'Rourke 'open to the idea'... myohmy2 Oct 2019 #5

That is a good idea. Those places are the only places those guns should be, Blue_true Oct 2019 #6

I'm not sure about that. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #12

Sorry Beto, most people's ultimate "legitimate concern or need" is self-defense... aikoaiko Oct 2019 #9

Not surprised he's walking that back. redqueen Oct 2019 #14

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)

1. That was My idea Beto,

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:30 PM

Oct 2019

Glad you can use it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)

2. Is that what they call the "Texas two-step"?

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 05:44 PM

Oct 2019

One day it's
"Hell yeah, we're comin' for your guns!"
and now it's
you can keep them if you promise you'll only use them at gun ranges and hunting clubs.
.........................................

"a student told O'Rourke he has used an AR-15 for hunting deer"

I hunted deer in PA 'back in the day'.
An AR-15 would chew that carcass up to being useless.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)

8. a 5.56 out of an AR would not "chew that carcass up to be useless"

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:39 PM

Oct 2019

We have smaller deer in GA than in PA and entry and exit wounds are small.

Certainly no bigger than 30-30 and definitely smaller than the venerable 30-06.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)

3. Ha Ha. Beto presents a bad idea and y'all are eatin' it up. Assault weapons were/are designed

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:01 PM

Oct 2019

and manufactured for only one reason and that's to kill human beings. They have no other use, no matter how "good" an idea anyone comes up with. Assault weapons belong with the military. Period.
Get over it 'k?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

7. In our mixed up world, some people actually use them for sport.

Reply to abqtommy (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:35 PM

Oct 2019

There are target shooting competitions. I am ok about them being in gun clubs for sport shooting, though that does make me a bit uneasy, because a killer can really learn how to handle one at such places.

But the rational me sees that they are in our civilian society and if we try to get them out 100%, there is likely going to be a lot of bloodshed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

spin

(17,493 posts)

10. Google "hunting with an AR-15." ...

Reply to abqtommy (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:03 PM

Oct 2019

You might find the results informative.

In passing I do not own any semi-automatic rifles and since I am not a hunter I have no interest in acquiring one. If I did ever decide to hunt deer I will likely use a lever action 30-30.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)

11. "If I did ever decide to hunt deer I will likely use a lever action 30-30"

Reply to spin (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 26, 2019, 12:17 PM

Oct 2019

I had five brothers and we each had a different 'favorite' deer rifle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

spin

(17,493 posts)

13. I doubt if I will ever take up deer hunting. ...

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 26, 2019, 06:14 PM

Oct 2019

But I tend to be a dinosaur when it comes to firearms.

I still prefer a revolver over a semi-auto pistol.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)

4. Guess he finally caught on

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:10 PM

Oct 2019

that publicly and proudly announcing that he's going to take folks guns has the real potential to cost him beaucoup votes nationally and effectively rules out any chance of his winning any statewide election in Texas for the foreseeable future.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)

5. Beto O'Rourke 'open to the idea'...

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 06:12 PM

Oct 2019

...well, that didn't take long...

...

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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)

6. That is a good idea. Those places are the only places those guns should be,

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:29 PM

Oct 2019

other than secured in the vehicles of some police officers, to be used only under specific circumstances.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)

12. I'm not sure about that.

Reply to Blue_true (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 26, 2019, 12:29 PM

Oct 2019

I don't know what demographic he's trying to appeal to here. The philosophy of assault rifle nerds is they need these things for self-defense. They aren't going to be satisfied with anything but a completely unregulated firearms market. Guys like me, who own firearms for hunting or sporting purposes, aren't really that interested in assault rifles. An outright ban wouldn't affect us in the slightest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)

9. Sorry Beto, most people's ultimate "legitimate concern or need" is self-defense...

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:42 PM

Oct 2019

... at home or property not just practicing at the shooting range.

But I'm glad to see him waffling away from his gun confiscation stance. It was a bad idea.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

redqueen

(115,103 posts)

14. Not surprised he's walking that back.

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Oct 26, 2019, 08:52 PM

Oct 2019

Not sure it'll help.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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