Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHere's a nice photo of the people who attended Bernie's rally in Queens.
Well, at least I think it's the Queens rally. In any case, just look at all those happy faces!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... but alas, I do not know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Since their last big snow.
Queensbridge is under 2.5% white.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...but unfortunately the residents of the Queensbridge Houses weren't even told that the rally was going to occur until the night before.
Also, Queens in general is 44% White, 20% African American, and 25% Hispanic or Latino.
That's certainly not what we seen in that photograph.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)so I can TALK about it CONSTANTLY
If it does come true it means the end of America, but oh well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Just so you can talk about it CONSTANTLY?
Alrightie then.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ive seen that posters posts enough to know that theres a good chance he/she wasnt being any such thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Having a rough morning?
Maybe the same one who appointed you as Eliot's defender?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)Oh dear.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Did you know members here can post what theyd like to post?
So does that mean no one appointed you either? But still you keep at it.
Thats kinda sweet. Or something.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)It means your problem with Elliot is your problem.
Just because you can make yourself look like a fool doesn't mean you should.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
How interesting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,314 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ecstatic
(32,707 posts)we need to see a closer shot. You can't really tell what's going on from that far out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)But actually when you look closely, they are showing serious exoressions. A bunch of democracy nerds!!..... Oh, wait, could Bernie supporters ALSO be decent, thoughtful Americans? Warren, Harris, Biden and Buttigieg aren't the only candidates garnering interest from intelligent Americans?
God, I'm so tired of people showing so much snark towards the man who broke through America's fear of deep reform. He made it possible for my candidate, Elizabeth Warren, to say "the system is rigged" and be taken seriously.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pangaia
(24,324 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)No Bernie did not pave any way for Warren. She paved her own.
In July 2010, Congress passed the DoddFrank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, during the 111th United States Congress in response to the Late-2000s recession and financial crisis.[2] The agency was originally proposed in 2007 by then Harvard Law School professor and current US senator Elizabeth Warren.[8] The proposed CFPB was actively supported by Americans for Financial Reform, a newly created umbrella organization of some 250 consumer, labor, civil rights and other activist organizations.[9]
On September 17, 2010, President Obama announced the appointment of Warren as Assistant to the President and Special Advisor to the Secretary of the Treasury on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to set up the new agency.[10][11] Due to the way the legislation creating the bureau was written, until the first Director was in place, the agency was not able to write new rules or supervise financial institutions other than banks.[4]
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Fact. E Warren is my Senator and my candidate of choice. Sanders did not pave anything for her. She is her own women as you can see by the CFPB that it was her baby from the get go. The interpretation of rigged to Sanders is very different than hers. She believed the system was rigged by predatory lending back in 2007 and did something about it. He believes the DNC and Media is rigged to thwart his run for President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)Thanks, as always, for setting the record straight, ss2!
Elizabeth has earned everything that she has accomplished!
I am SOOOO happy to see that we are fellow supporters of Elizabeth Warren!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)She is a great candidate!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Everyone has done their part.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yardwork
(61,650 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)Gender is a projection
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yardwork
(61,650 posts)Here's a clue. Mansplaining didn't work for Bernie last time and it's not going to work now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Go Bernie!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...races, religions, sexual orientation, and backgrounds.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,229 posts)Chicagoians!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...I grew to really like your city and it's people. Very much unlike people in most of the rest of the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Or would it be Shrewsburyets? How about Shrewsburys. Naw, nothing works!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....a stakes race named after Shrewsbury run each year at nearby Monmouth Park.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)We actually have a good number of Shrews in the area. Although less now with all the farming and growth of the town. I wonder if the others have/had Shrews as well?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)
a helluva lot of people who came out to see and support the next President of the United States...
Go Bernie!!
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Impressive turnout in support of Sen. Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... but it was easier to simply hotlink to the original. Besides, I think it's important to give an honest and accurate representation. I'm a very honest person.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
...color-blind and it didn't seem that bright to me...
...let me take another look...
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Not to worry, there were no green or blue people at that rally.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...and thanks for assuaging my fears; as the missing green and blue people were found to be safe and sound, right here in this very thread!
re: "Not to worry, there were no green or blue people at that rally."
TYY
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,304 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,304 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)However he did have Nina and AOC on stage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's kinda like "Where's Waldo"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)That's why I love Crayola's.
Chock full of beautiful magnificent bright colors. There are 64 crayons in a box. Only one is flesh colored and only one is white. The rest are the rainbows of the world.
https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/crayola-has-given-its-century-old-product-a-contemporary-relevance-even-in-the-age-of-ipads/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,304 posts)and not giving much thought to the optics of being in Queens.
Bernie Sanders Rally By Queensbridge Houses Blindsides Residents
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287320437#top
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...and that's a good thing; something no one else has...
...Bernie gets support from everywhere, all the time...
...no matter how voters come to see our Bernie, by car, by bus, by plane, by train, bicycle or walking, they come enthusiastically to see and support the next President of the United States in person...
...that makes me feel so proud...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,537 posts)I think I'll make popcorn balls! Hard to clean melted marshmallow residue in the pan, tho.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)It has many uses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,334 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tblue37
(65,403 posts).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)stay tuned, sigh...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tblue37
(65,403 posts)heart attack, I think he won't be nominated. I do think he deserves a lot of credit for pushing the Democrats to be much more liberal and for shifting the Overton window leftward.
But I do think Warren is a better choice to carry that message now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)Nailed it, white out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
% of supporters who are white:
- Elizabeth Warren: 71%
- Kamala Harris: 59%
- Joe Biden: 56%
- Bernie Sanders: 49%
https://www.people-press.org/2019/08/16/most-democrats-are-excited-by-several-2020-candidates-not-just-their-top-choice/pp_2019-08-16_2020-democratic-candidates_0-06-2/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
What is your point? Pew only shows the white vote. Where are are all the other people, POC that vote? There are about 30 pages to scroll through and it is late and not going there.
However I will say the very first page is telling. If he now has only 49% of the white vote, his base... Then he is losing. Period.
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.
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Thanks for the chart, Melman. It was eye opening.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)You can't.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)For now.
Point is she has more than BS and that is in fact his base. If he is only running at 49% of his base, then he is not doing well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....Warrens's [sic] supporters" are "overwhelmingly white"!
"You can't."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
footnote: "stupid gif" bwahahahahaha.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Not the one I was looking for...yet close.
Hey~
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 26, 2019, 05:53 PM - Edit history (1)
But OK.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/elizabeth-warren-black-voters-support-2020-016649
And Warren sure didn't blow it at the She the People forum, like other candidates.
https://www.vox.com/2019/4/25/18514995/she-the-people-elizabeth-warren-kamala-harris-women-of-color-voters
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)OMG STRAW MAN LOLOL
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I don't think that means what you think it does.
I was responding to your statement concerning POC support of Warren.... Is that clearer?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
melman
(7,681 posts)Someone who constantly calls out fallacies and almost always incorrectly.
ps. I love this thing where you take a line I used or a gif like the one above and then endlessly repost it at me.
SUCH A SICK BURN. SO TOTALLY DEVASTATING..
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
(Must've really hit the nail on the head when I mentioned the She the People forum...)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)That someone can have Warren as their candidate and HATE Bernie Sanders. I've come to view Warren as a more acceptable(to mainstream Democrats) form of Sanders, but to me, they are largely similar on policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
handmade34
(22,756 posts)in fact, it is often the lesser of qualities considered... I like Bernie as my Senator, I very much dislike Bernie as a Presidential candidate... I love Warren and would vote for her in a heartbeat
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,790 posts)I voted for her twice and met her once. She is brilliant, witty and an energetic speaker. While some of their policies may be similar, I also use a yardstick when considering a candidate. I measure their lists of accomplishments along with their policies.
Here is a sample and this was only through 2016.
Its not just mortgage companies and big banks that now have to sleep with their eyes open. Credit card companies also now have to play by the rules. In 2012, the bureau ordered three American Express subsidiaries to pay out $85 million to over 250,000 customers they screwed over through illegal practices.
Warren managed to do all of this even while the GOP did everything in their power to cockblock it. And when they failed that mission, they bitched and moaned and managed to prevent her from being nominated head of the CFPB. She then used their tantrum as a pathway to run for Senate.
And she won. Easily.
3. In only three years, she has sponsored at least 36 bills, including the Equal Employment Act for All, the Schedules That Work Act, the Trade Transparency Act, and the Fed Accountability Act. She consistently fights for legislation that champions for womens rights, paid family leave, low-wage workers, fair trade and affordable education.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/9/1524727/-Elizabeth-Warren-s-List-of-Accomplishments-is-Bigger-than-Trump-s-Hanging-Chad
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)think that having a broader appeal among Democrats is somehow something to be tolerated rather than a positive.
Goodness, you have a dim view of "mainstream Democrats" don't you - as though they don't really understand Bernie... are you sure you're on the right board?
Warren's been a Democrat far, far longer, and she has more concrete accomplishments in her much shorter career. She has far more respect and therefore influence among her peers, and that says volumes.
Warren would be a strong spokeswoman for the party in Congress or outside of it; she spurred creation of a federal agency the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau without the title of "senator" in front of her name. But allies say Warren's best tool is her seat at the committee table in the Senate. Through hearings on the Senate Banking Committee in particular, Warren's questioning and persistence has lead to rules changes at various federal agencies without needing to get legislation through a Republican-controlled Congress. Most notably, Warren successfully pushed the SEC to require banks to admit wrongdoing in negotiating many settlements.
Even critics acknowledge that Warren's influence, particularly over federal agencies and her Democratic colleagues, goes beyond her fairly brief record of legislative accomplishment.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/is-elizabeth-warren-an-effective-senator/449349/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheFarseer
(9,323 posts)"Hate Bernie Sanders" yeah, you came into this conversation to tell me that I (btw I am undecided) and supporters of Bernie are not real Democrats(ie not on the right board). I have a good mind to alert your post. The idea that Warren is also progressive but more acceptable to mainstream Democrats for whatever reason is hardly a revolutionary statement. I've heard it said many times.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)For what, exactly?
Backing up my response to you with facts?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,408 posts)stalking horse.
I saw so much pure venom at that turgid little hate site, JPR (never heard of it until I saw it talked about here on DU.)
It seemed that the only person they hate more than Warren is Hillary, with Biden and Buttigieg also up there, same for Harris.
I refuse to link to that rathole.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....with a combination of snowboots AND waders?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aidbo
(2,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
real classy. as always.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
doc03
(35,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PhoenixDem
(581 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if half of them travel to go to every one of his rallies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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thewhollytoast
(318 posts)However, I just can't.
I find the premise of your post hurtful.
I'm so white that 75% of my immediate family say I actually glow.
When we've taken family photo's I've been told, I should stand in the back so that my "whiteness" won't flood them out of the picture.
Families can tease.
My dome is shiny. My beard is now totally white.
On background, perhaps I should share why my family sticks together - politically.
We are unabashed socialists. Hippies.
My father's mom was a contemporary, and friend, of Jeannette Rankin.
The Matriarch of the other part of my family knew Dr. King and was present at his last speech.
Not like you.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
But, you are not.
because you are a troll.
thanks for playing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Thank you for speaking out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Autumn
(45,106 posts)I hadn't seen this one
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,106 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Nancy is not a troll. She just doesn't agree with everyone's positions on things. Apparently that's enough for some to shift them into a different mode of communication.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Think about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)suggests you are here for serious discussion of the issues.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,219 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,537 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,537 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,304 posts)have any comment on the content of the OP?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nini
(16,672 posts)Calling someone a troll? tsk tsk.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
handmade34
(22,756 posts)no flat place big enough for all those people and they are too young... it is only us old geezers left here in Vermont (except maybe Burlington)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,106 posts)K& R!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)not meaning it in the literal sense as in the end of America, and I can BE CERTAIN someone from a CERTAIN GROUP will show up and pretend that I am saying something bad so they can ATTACK my character when in fact the only reason I am being attacked is I am one of the
PRO HILLARY
people here and that gets you ATTENTION from that CERTAIN GROUP...
Sick of it, I NEVER respond to these people, but I am SICK of it.
(I am not responding to you, ehrnst...I am responding to a STALKING POST but I refuse to acknowledge the HILLARY HATERS on here so I never respond to them directly, but I need to say this or I am gonna fucking burst)
And they never get tired, they NEVER stop BASHING Hillary and her supporters. She isnt even running, sigh.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)immediately by the stalkers. Not just re Hillary but other subjects too. Especially Impeachment. I have often wondered how this happens. I thought somehow there was a feature that when a word was mentioned, people got an alert of some kind. But no. It would explain the speed at which the stalkers converge. I never trust people who care more about trashing your idea than presenting a positive rationale for their own views.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I'm not surprised. He'll be in the Twin Cities on November 3. I'll bet he gets a good turnout here, too. Maybe someone will photograph the crowd there, as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)That's awesome.
Though I'm sure you have some other ridiculous point you are trying to make.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
manintheback
(4 posts)There are a whole lot of people who are clearly feelin the Bern.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
How did Nancy Reagan get in this?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cary
(11,746 posts)Nancy Reagan made a comment about seeing all of the smiling white faces in the rally.
i said this picture reminds me of that. If you don't understand, then you don't understand.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aidbo
(2,328 posts)fucking absurd.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueMississippi
(776 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
progressoid
(49,991 posts)Amirite?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,408 posts)LYNYRD SKYNYRD US group in 1975
Contributor: Pictorial Press Ltd / Alamy Stock Photo
curious description of Bernie supporters
somehow I do not think that flag would go down well there, lolol
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden