He shouldn't get rewrite history.

the 1994 Crime Bill was great. The entire Black caucus voted for it too.

It's Biden Time!

and that's good enough reason for me to like it too!

Joe and Bernie and the entire Black Caucus were absolutely right to vote for it!

Something had to be done to stop the violent crime epidemic and it worked!

It's Biden Time!

There has never been perfect legislation passed in any country in the world

The 1994 crime bill has some good elements. Protections for abuse victims was great. Crime was higher that needed to be addressed.

However the 1994 crime bill locked a lot of non violent drug offenders up and contributed to the mass incarceration problem.

What Sanders is doing now is trying to rewrite history by showing a speech of him railing against the bill while voting for it anyway. A bit disingenuous if you ask me.

but had "some good elements" he wasn't listened to, you also state that there has "never been perfect legislation passed in any country in the world" and you call that "disingenuous?"

This speech is an example of that.

If he talked about the imperfections then and now without is self righteous attitude I might think a little more highly of him.

Classic.

YOU agreed the 1994 crime bill was imperfect and now you complain about Sanders arguing back in 1994 to modify it's flaws?

I think Sanders is a hypocrite.

Because he attacked Hillary Clinton who was the first lady when she wasn't president for her HUSBANDS actions while voting for the same legislation.

Off to watch the WS! It should be a good game.

The left as much as the right. Google Hillary Clinton and 'Superpredators' for the general flavor of the sheer paranoia prevalent amongst Democrats as Republicans.

the problem with the bill is it treated pot and crack the same way

that is what lead to mass incarceration

and we still have candidates that do not want to legalize mj




and yes that is a swipe at biden

It treated crack very differently than plain ol powder. Gee I wonder which demographic used one more than the other...

Show me someone who is against legalization and I'll show you a psychotic asshole who deserves to be in pain the rest of their days.

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...this video is about the 94 crime bill. Which he voted for.

don't blame him if the vast majority of the rest didn't want to listen.

I believe Bill Clinton was President in 94, perhaps he had more power and influence?

Plus, has Bill Clinton been the President for the last 25 years?

BS has been in the Senate for 19 of those years and congress before that.I keep reading how powerful he is. How influential he is. Why has he not done anything to remedy this? What bills has he passed?

if Bernie had voted against it?

Bernie was always one of 435 while in the House and one of 100 in the Senate beginning in 2006 while George W. Bush was President.

What legislation in 25 years has he written.

What would you be saying if Bernie had voted against it?

that preferred the status quo of being "tough on crime."

What did Biden do as Senator and VP to correct the problems that bill caused?

and even more importantly,

Why does Joe Biden continue to insist that passing the 1994 Crime Bill was the right thing to do?

Joe Biden’s defense of the 1994 crime bill’s role in mass incarcerations
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/16/joe-bidens-defense-crime-bills-role-incarceration-trend/

At least Sanders says the bill was a mistake and he should not have voted for it. And he is actively trying to correct the problems it caused right now.

Has Biden? I do not believe so...

I can help you both out here.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357

Enacted Legislation

Sanders was the primary sponsor of 7 bills that were enacted:

S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.
S. 2782 (113th): A bill to amend title 36, United States Code, to improve the Federal charter for the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, and for other ...
S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013
H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building”.
H.J.Res. 129 (104th): Granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact.
H.R. 1353 (102nd): Entitled the “Taconic Mountains Protection Act of 1991”.
H.J.Res. 132 (102nd): To designate March 4, 1991, as “Vermont Bicentennial Day”.

Bernie got the money in the aca for community clinics....they serve the poorest of the poor

Bernie helped get the fed audited

Oh. I know all about his amendments. He is known as the amendment king.

http://addictinginfo.com/2016/02/19/heres-a-long-list-of-bernie-sanders-accomplishments-with-citations/

I had forgotten he voted against Iraq

which of course was huge

I answered my question myself. You did not.

His proposals now are once again talk. Being a critic is not legislation.

because you and I both know the answer but I was hoping you would at least try.

I have asked you a simple question a half dozen times or more and you either do not answer or change the subject. You always demand answers of others and refuse to answer the ones asked of you. This is not the first time you have done this. I see it every time that you post.

Here is my answer even though you ignored mine. 1994 was a far different time and crime was a major concern then. Yes he helped pen, yet BS signed it. I don't give a damn that BS voted for it in those times, yet find the hypocrisy of those that condemn one and not the other ludicrous.

BS is far from off the hook in VT:

crime bill?

Bernie was a mayor, a U.S Congressman and a U.S. Senator but he was never a governor, state legislature or state senator in Vermont it's amazing to me how many people don't understand how state laws are written and who writes them.

Because there isn't much.

What did he do as Senator or VP?

Oh, I forgot, that's different...

Like Bernie I am from New York City.

Unfortunately for him that means I am tuned with a highly sensitive B**l S**t meter.

What about.

Raising the issue of selective outrage

Unlike Biden who is STILL defending voting for the 1994 Crime Bill

Thank you for posting this, Uncle Joe.