Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBiden advisers debate Stacey Abrams as out-of-the-gate V.P. choice
Close advisers to former Vice President Joe Biden are debating the idea of packaging his presidential campaign announcement with a pledge to choose Stacey Abrams as his vice president.
Why it matters: The popular Georgia Democrat, who at age 45 is 31 years younger than Biden, would bring diversity and excitement to the ticket showing voters, in the words of a close source, that Biden "isn't just another old white guy."
But the decision poses considerable risk, and some advisers are flatly opposed. Some have pointed out that in a Democratic debate, he could be asked why no one on the stage would be a worthy running mate.
Advisers also know that the move would be perceived as a gimmick.
Biden's position on the issue couldn't be learned we were just told about the advisers' debate.
Biden has discussed selecting a running mate early, a move that one senior Democrat said could hurt him by feeding "an air of inevitability," CNN reported.
Biden's office declined to comment.
Abrams met Biden in Washington last week to discuss her next political steps, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.
Biden requested the lunchtime meeting, per AP.
https://www.axios.com/2020-presidential-election-joe-biden-stacey-abrams-vp-54472f8f-5bb2-4d1f-bc7c-0544a09ebba5.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)Seems a bit offensive. I'm going to assume a deal was worked out over lunch. That's the only way this wouldn't be a sleight.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)She has declared both
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dsc
(52,169 posts)she had to have been approached by his campaign and likely him before any discussions ensued. I can see advantages and disadvantages to this, but I am positive this has been discussed with her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)For many reasons.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(14,893 posts)do we need multiples?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)He has to defend her and defend himself. What happens if he finds out something about her he doesnt like? Does he drop her?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
samnsara
(17,650 posts).....and because i was always drooling for a Biden/Harris ticket........then i read her Bio and WOW!!!! Shes written 6 romance novels! I mean besides all the other cool-worthy career stuff..she also went to YALE LAW SCHOOL! I have always liked her but i thought the pick was kind of odd but WOW im totally on board now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)To neglect to mention that is to draw a very...inaccurate picture.
Much as I admire our governor-elect Abrams, and I do, I'm not on board with her for president, but I'm also not on board with snide.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Will Black Voters Still Love Biden When They Remember Who He Was?
Joe Biden once called state-mandated school integration the most racist concept you can come up with, and Barack Obama the first sort of mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean. He was a staunch opponent of forced busing in the 1970s, and leading crusader for mass incarceration throughout the 80s and 90s. Uncle Joe has described African-American felons as predators too sociopathic to rehabilitate and white supremacist senators as his friends.
And, as of this writing, a plurality of black Democrats want him to be their partys 2020 nominee.
Whether Biden can retain that support, after voters learn more about his problematic past, could very well determine the outcome of the partys primary race. To explore that question, lets pick through the former vice-presidents hefty baggage on racial justice and then, the case for thinking that Obamas halo will prove to be brighter than the shadow of Bidens record is dark.
Biden helped kill the most effective policy for improving black educational attainment that America has ever known.
Joe Biden was for
More at the link...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)If the gambit fails, it will ruin her own brand. On the other hand, if a different white male wins the nomination, she could still be the VP pick.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stellar
(5,644 posts)and I'm really not sure if she would do it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,508 posts)Bernie has some mending to do in that area as well. Starting with the concept fixing income inequality doesnt fix race inequality. And unlike Bidens ideas from 50 years ago on busing Bernie is misguided and wrong on this in the PRESENT.
Its sort of laughable and more than a little ironic a Sanders supporter would take this line of attack on Biden. Irony is officially dead.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dlk
(11,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Fiendish Thingy
(15,686 posts)Once he declares, it will be open season, and his treatment of Anita Hill will come up. Picking Abrams now is a desperate, cynical attempt to neutralize this criticism.
I hope she says no- she's got a brighter future than this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,179 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,883 posts)That he is old and tired
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I would like for her to be my senator... VP is great, too!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)Dumb dumb dumb. Fire those advisors. This is a trial balloon that should have never been flown.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BooScout
(10,406 posts)We get enough of the gimicky crap with Trump. I am fed up with political stunts. If Biden wants my vote he needs to explain and apologise for his stances over race, abortion and Anita Hill.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Peacetrain
(22,880 posts)So I am not buying it...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Talking Tom
(60 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,995 posts)contenders to discuss their commitment to voting rights and to investing in Georgia.
This is what it sounded like to me. A chance to discuss the obvious GOP plans to continue voter suppression in Georgia. She was the biggest victim of this; everyone should be meeting with Abrams.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SKKY
(11,827 posts)...emerges that everyone coalesces around. I think Stacey has the most to lose by tying herself to Biden this early. If she really has VP aspirations, let the process play out, make her availability known, and see what happens. I don't know. Seems like a bit of a Hail Mary to me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden