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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:28 AM Nov 2019

My expectation is that Gabbard

will run for president as Republican in four years. She has left her congressional post, and the cult leader who persuaded her to run as a Democrat did so because he believed that she could not win a congressional seat as Republican. However, the cult and Gabbard have beliefs that put them in line with Republicans.

We won't know until 2024.

But she will not be the nominee for the Democrats this year, and she has announced that she is leaving her congressional seat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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My expectation is that Gabbard (Original Post) bluedye33139 Nov 2019 OP
Either that, or she'll get a nice cushy spot on fox news badmouthing the Democratic party. Salviati Nov 2019 #1
I agree with you ritapria Nov 2019 #4
When I watch her, it looks like she is positioning herself to collect Beringia Nov 2019 #2
Don't you mean bad mouthing the "Democrat" party? The Valley Below Nov 2019 #3
OR OR, she is being prepped to run as a republican for pres in 2020... pangaia Nov 2019 #5
Tulsi Gabbard is a Republican wolf in Democratic sheep's clothing. Sloumeau Nov 2019 #6
Sat. Night Live portrayed her as Cruella deVille.... No Vested Interest Nov 2019 #7
Really! omg.. I hope she liked Cha Nov 2019 #8
Have you looked at her website?? Rstrstx Nov 2019 #9
So she is out in the cold in both parties then Beringia Nov 2019 #16
As I say, the people funding her requested her to change bluedye33139 Nov 2019 #18
I don't know what disturbs me more, Gabbard or those true Democrats that... hlthe2b Nov 2019 #10
Zero chance she would be accepted there. She is overall a Sanderite Celerity Nov 2019 #11
Or, 2020's third-party candidate obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #12
Never happen. No money for her. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2019 #21
re: "the cult and Gabbard have beliefs that put them in line with Republicans." thesquanderer Nov 2019 #13
You're denying that Chris Butler bluedye33139 Nov 2019 #17
As I said, I was only talking about Gabbard. Her votes and positions... thesquanderer Nov 2019 #19
So you do not know that Chris Butler bluedye33139 Nov 2019 #20
I'm saying that it is entirely irrelevant to my point. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #22
IMHO, she could consider the fact... MarianJack Nov 2019 #15
 

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
1. Either that, or she'll get a nice cushy spot on fox news badmouthing the Democratic party.
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:30 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
4. I agree with you
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:38 AM
Nov 2019

She is trying out for a gig on Fox News

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Beringia

(4,316 posts)
2. When I watch her, it looks like she is positioning herself to collect
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:38 AM
Nov 2019

all kinds of benefits and treasures for herself in some way. Extremely calculating.
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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
3. Don't you mean bad mouthing the "Democrat" party?
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:38 AM
Nov 2019
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. OR OR, she is being prepped to run as a republican for pres in 2020...
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:44 AM
Nov 2019

totally crazy i know.. but......

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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
6. Tulsi Gabbard is a Republican wolf in Democratic sheep's clothing.
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 03:04 AM
Nov 2019

Do not leave her alone with either Grandma or little girls in red riding hoods.

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No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
7. Sat. Night Live portrayed her as Cruella deVille....
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 03:46 AM
Nov 2019

nt

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Cha

(297,317 posts)
8. Really! omg.. I hope she liked
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 03:51 AM
Nov 2019

it.. it's not exactly tucker's fox show but they can be really funny and dead on in their impersonations at times.

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Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
9. Have you looked at her website??
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 05:32 AM
Nov 2019

They are giving her false flattery at Fox, the Republicans would tear her to shreds. Among her sins, which are posted plainly on her website:

Favors legalization of marijuana
Member of the House LGBTQ+ Equality Caucus
Member of the Medicare for All Caucus
Supports DACA

I could go on but I think you get the picture, even the slightest hint of sympathy on any of these issues is an automatic death penalty in a Republican primary.

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Beringia

(4,316 posts)
16. So she is out in the cold in both parties then
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 10:44 AM
Nov 2019
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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
18. As I say, the people funding her requested her to change
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

to appeal to the district she lives in.

Her votes tend to be okay. Every person working in her office is a member of the science of identity cult.

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hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
10. I don't know what disturbs me more, Gabbard or those true Democrats that...
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 07:10 AM
Nov 2019

unquestionably defend her and vehemently go after all who share their common concerns about her. I wish the evidence was not mounting that fuels our concerns, but it is and she does nothing to assuage those doubts, but rather the opposite. It is sad to me because she is a skillful communicator and has many positives upon which to build her campaign but...

It is hard not to feel like there is not a manipulation campaign vis-a-vis Gabbard going on.

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Celerity

(43,409 posts)
11. Zero chance she would be accepted there. She is overall a Sanderite
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:14 AM
Nov 2019

style leftist. All the 'Tulsi as a Rethug' comments have made me LOL for months. The only reason she is being used and pushed by them and/or the Russians is that she bashes the Democratic Party. In terms of policy, she is pretty much bog standard leftist (on the American scale), with a few exceptions. She could easily top the Green Party ticket, never the Rethugs.

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obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
12. Or, 2020's third-party candidate
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:26 AM
Nov 2019

Which is what I've thought for months.

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oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
14. Never happen. No money for her.
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:51 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #12)

 

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
13. re: "the cult and Gabbard have beliefs that put them in line with Republicans."
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:48 AM
Nov 2019

Last edited Sun Nov 24, 2019, 11:48 AM - Edit history (1)

I don't know about the cult, but for Gabbard, look at her votes:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/tulsi-gabbard/

and at her positions:

https://www.tulsigabbard.org/

Quite left overall, nowhere near a Republican or even blue dog platform.

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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
17. You're denying that Chris Butler
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 11:57 AM
Nov 2019

asked her to switch to Democratic because it was clear to Butler and her father that she would never be able to win a congressional seat as a Republican in that district?

Or are you simply asserting that you do not know about the science of identity cult?

if it's the second point, I agree with you. You appear not to know about the cult.

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thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
19. As I said, I was only talking about Gabbard. Her votes and positions...
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 12:29 PM
Nov 2019

...do not at all align with a Republican candidacy. You'd have a better argument about her switching and running as a Republican in 2024 if at least she were one of the more right-leaning Dems rather than one of the more left-leaning. Butler/SoI are irrelevant to that point.

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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
20. So you do not know that Chris Butler
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 01:38 PM
Nov 2019

instructed her to switch parties and to act differently. I get that. Many people do not know this.

Many people do not know who Chris Butler is. Many people do not know anything about the science of identity cult.

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thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
22. I'm saying that it is entirely irrelevant to my point.
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 02:51 PM
Nov 2019

Her association with Chris Butler/SoI is not something that is going to convince the Republican party to ignore virtually every position she has taken and every vote she has cast for the past 8 years. It would be like Rand Paul running as a Democrat in 2024. I don't see it happening.

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MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
15. IMHO, she could consider the fact...
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 10:31 AM
Nov 2019

...that McDonalds is always hiring,

RESIST!

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