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highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:40 PM Nov 2019

Low-dollar, repeat donations to campaigns are making credit card companies rich

I'm not using Politico's headline for the subject line, since it singles out the Sanders campaign even though the article makes it clear this is also true for other campaigns.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/11/25/small-dollar-online-donors-politics-credit-card-processing-072949


How Bernie's Small Donors Are Making Credit Card Companies Rich


Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have eschewed big-dollar fundraising events to support their 2020 campaigns, instead turning to their grassroots supporters for small-dollar contributions. It’s central to both candidates’ appeal: the idea that everyday people, not big financial institutions or wealthy and powerful interests, are financing—and benefiting from—their efforts.

Donors have responded in droves— donating tens, hundreds or even thousands of times, in amounts as small as $1. But what these grassroots supporters may not realize is that, in making small, repeated contributions, they have, in aggregate, delivered a huge payday for the middlemen, often large banks and financial institutions that process those payments.

“It's important that people realize that the more transactions they engage in, the more credit card companies are making money,” said Jonathan Zucker, the co-founder of Democracy Engine and former CEO of ActBlue, the nonprofit payment-processing behemoth catering to Democratic campaigns. “While it may only be a matter of cents, those pennies pile up.”

A Newsy analysis of Federal Election Commission data found that since the start of the 2008 election cycle, federal political campaigns have paid more than $220 million to credit card-processing companies including American Express, Bank of America and PayPal, among dozens of others.

Between the 2008 and 2016 election cycles, the amount nearly doubled, from $28.2 million to $51.5 million. The 2020 cycle is on pace to shatter that record: Through October, the 2020 campaigns spent more than $23.8 million in processing fees—more than a year before the election.

Nearly one-tenth of that money came from Sanders’ presidential campaign, which has paid credit card processors more than $2.3 million—the most of any candidate this cycle. Second is Warren, whose $1.75 million in processing payments narrowly edged out Pete Buttigieg’s $1.73 million.

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When you give a dollar to a political campaign using your credit card, a portion of that money is paid to a range of companies—the bank that issues a donor’s credit card, the campaign’s bank, the credit card company, etc.—and is generally taken as a percentage of the donation, plus a fixed amount per transaction. Even ActBlue, which advertises a flat fee of 3.95 percent, gets charged a per-transaction fee behind the scenes, though the organization would not give exact amounts.

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Low-dollar, repeat donations to campaigns are making credit card companies rich (Original Post) highplainsdem Nov 2019 OP
wow. The irony evertonfc Nov 2019 #1
Ha.. that's what I was going to say.. Cha Nov 2019 #4
Will using Debit cards get around this? redqueen Nov 2019 #2
Credit card companies won't make money SoCalNative Nov 2019 #5
like PayPal straight from a bank account? redqueen Nov 2019 #9
No more like SoCalNative Nov 2019 #10
Ohhh... redqueen Nov 2019 #11
You can add your bank acct to PayPal SoCalNative Nov 2019 #12
Dangit. redqueen Nov 2019 #13
Sanders' campaign was openly encouraging people to do this. TwilightZone Nov 2019 #3
That ups the number of individual donations, too, which they then emphasize. And I heard the highplainsdem Nov 2019 #7
Credit card companies get rich from... htuttle Nov 2019 #6
true. nt ecstatic Nov 2019 #8
 

Cha

(297,274 posts)
4. Ha.. that's what I was going to say..
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:46 PM
Nov 2019

too obvious!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
2. Will using Debit cards get around this?
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:45 PM
Nov 2019

Hope so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
5. Credit card companies won't make money
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:52 PM
Nov 2019

but the banks will for the fees they charge for debit card use. Best solution would be to have an option to have directly debited from you bank account not using a card.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
9. like PayPal straight from a bank account?
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:07 PM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
10. No more like
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:12 PM
Nov 2019

you do with online bill pay, where you put in your checking acct information.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
11. Ohhh...
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:14 PM
Nov 2019

Will have to look into whether PayPal does that.

Maybe ActBlue should enable that method.

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Undecided
 

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
12. You can add your bank acct to PayPal
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:18 PM
Nov 2019

but they will still charge fees like CC and debit cards.

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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
13. Dangit.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:19 PM
Nov 2019

That's the method I've been using, I think.

And all my donations have been small

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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
3. Sanders' campaign was openly encouraging people to do this.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:45 PM
Nov 2019

The intent was to keep the average donation artificially low.

I've never understood why the average figure is so important to them. Who cares? I doubt anyone outside of the campaign or his supporters gives it a second thought.

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highplainsdem

(48,993 posts)
7. That ups the number of individual donations, too, which they then emphasize. And I heard the
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:59 PM
Nov 2019

same thing, that people were being encouraged to break donations down into smaller multiple donations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
6. Credit card companies get rich from...
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:59 PM
Nov 2019

Small donations
Buying gasoline
Going grocery shopping
Getting coffee at a coffee shop
Paying bills with a CC or debit card
.....basically everything you do with plastic, they make money on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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