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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 11:31 AM Nov 2019

Buttigieg's gains are mostly with his white base (CNN analyst Harry Enten)

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/cnn-poll-11-27-2019/h_140caa8d9229051872d47b7da768ccd9


The good news for Buttigieg in our poll is fairly obvious. He's up to double digits, which follows our Iowa poll showing him in lead.

It doesn't take a lot of digging, however, to see why Buttigieg might have a big league problem once the Democratic primary moves outside of the mostly white states of Iowa and New Hampshire.

Buttigieg scores 17% among white potential Democratic voters. He's at a mere 4% with nonwhites.

A racial gap is nothing new for Buttigieg. What's interesting is it seems to be getting wider.

Last month, Buttigieg was at 9% among whites and 2% among nonwhites. That is, the racial gap nearly doubled from 7 points last month to 13 points this month.

Interestingly, Buttigieg's national numbers nearly mirror what his polling in Iowa looks like over the last couple of months. In an average of our September and November polls, Buttigieg was at 18% among whites and 6% among nonwhites.

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This article came out on the 27th, but I missed it then.

Enten mentions and links to an article he wrote a few days earlier, "Pete Buttigieg's minority problem isn't just about name recognition":

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/24/politics/pete-buttigieg-poll-of-the-week/index.html


What's the point: Buttigieg is clearly one of the -- if not the only -- frontrunners in the Iowa Democratic contest right now. Yet, some (like myself) have wondered aloud about whether Buttigieg will be able to translate his Iowa success into more diverse states like Nevada and South Carolina. That's because Iowa is overwhelmingly white and Buttigieg has consistently polled poorly among nonwhites (specifically African Americans) nationally.

There's no doubt that some portion of Buttigieg's lower numbers with nonwhite voters has to do with lower name recognition, which isn't a problem for him in Iowa. I am, however, skeptical that lack of name identification is the root cause of Buttigieg's issue with nonwhite voters. Why? Buttigieg is polling far worse among the relatively few nonwhite likely caucusgoers in Iowa.

Although our last Iowa poll has an insufficient sample size to judge how nonwhite Democratic caucusgoers feel about Buttigieg, we can combine our last two Iowa polls (September and November) to get a good understanding of where nonwhite caucusgoers stand compared to white Democratic caucusgoers.

In our combined sample, Buttigieg scores a 50% favorable rating and an unfavorable rating of 26% among nonwhite likely caucusgoers. That makes for a net favorability rating of +24 points. This is not a particularly strong number for a Democrat among Democratic caucusgoers.

To put this net favorability rating into some perspective, it looks a lot more like the overall net favorability ratings for lagging candidates such as California Sen. Kamala Harris and New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker than it does for a frontrunner.
White likely caucusgoers score Buttigieg much more highly. He earns a 73% favorable rating and an unfavorable rating of 13%. That makes for a net favorability rating of +60 points.

In other words, Buttigieg's net favorablity rating is twice as high among whites than nonwhites in Iowa.

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Buttigieg's gains are mostly with his white base (CNN analyst Harry Enten) (Original Post) highplainsdem Nov 2019 OP
Thank you highplainsdem!! Explains a lot. He has a bright future but not as 46 Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #1
It seems like he has much higher potential than some of the more established candidates. Renew Deal Nov 2019 #2
Except that Obama had huge appeal among nonwhites dalton99a Nov 2019 #3
A mandatory constituency, I'd say. redqueen Nov 2019 #5
That's fixable customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #8
Not at first Renew Deal Nov 2019 #9
The math it hurts dsc Nov 2019 #4
+100000 Celerity Nov 2019 #6
Not to mention, these white people they're talking about VOTE. Always. cwydro Nov 2019 #7
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
1. Thank you highplainsdem!! Explains a lot. He has a bright future but not as 46
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 11:35 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
2. It seems like he has much higher potential than some of the more established candidates.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 11:46 AM
Nov 2019

He might explode into the lead if he can expand this base. I wouldn’t count him out considering he comes from the Obama school of Democratic politics.

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dalton99a

(81,516 posts)
3. Except that Obama had huge appeal among nonwhites
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 11:52 AM
Nov 2019

a crucial constituency


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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. A mandatory constituency, I'd say.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 12:03 PM
Nov 2019

We cannot win without those votes.

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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
8. That's fixable
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:25 PM
Nov 2019

If Pete gets the nomination, he can pick a person of color (preferably female) as a running mate.

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Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
9. Not at first
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 10:59 PM
Nov 2019

That didn't really take hold until around December 2007.

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dsc

(52,162 posts)
4. The math it hurts
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 11:59 AM
Nov 2019

First, to be clear, I am not disputing that Buttigieg has problems among minority voters. That is correct and no amount of voodoo math negates that. But that said:

First, the proper way to measure a gap between two groups is a ratio not a difference. By that measure it is the same, not growing. He about doubled his support among both groups.

Second, and way more problematic, you can't combine samples to get around sample size issues. That is a humungous no no.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. Not to mention, these white people they're talking about VOTE. Always.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 01:52 PM
Nov 2019

And that’s important.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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