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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:38 PM Mar 2019

More on Bernies 2014 tax returns that he put out



You can see his financial statement here.

https://www.opensecrets.org/personal-finances/assets/Bernie-Sanders?cid=N00000528&year=2014


What I am confused about is that in his financial statement there are numerous mutual funds listed. If you look at the tax return he put out, you will notice that the lines for "ordinary dividends" is blank. There should be something there from the money he made on those funds. Am I missing something?


You can see Bernie's 2014 tax return that he put out at this link.

https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/28640147608977291/
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DURHAM D

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1. Has he released
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:41 PM
Mar 2019

2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018?

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TexasTowelie

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2. I'm not that knowledgeable about tax laws,
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:49 PM
Mar 2019

but if he rolled over dividends into his mutual funds would he declare it as income in that particular year? I thought that income wasn't taxed until there is a withdrawal on the mutual funds.

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still_one

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3. If you hold shares in a taxable account, you are required to pay taxes on mutual fund distributions,
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 07:53 PM
Mar 2019

whether the distributions are paid out in cash or reinvested

If those mutual funds are held in an IRA or 401K no


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TexasTowelie

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4. Thanks.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:06 PM
Mar 2019

At some point in my life I believe that I knew that, but that information was deleted from my brain cells and replaced with more pertinent information.

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SFnomad

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5. I don't have a Pinterest account. So, are these just the 2 summary pages? Or the full return? n/t
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:12 PM
Mar 2019
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Andy823

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10. Summary pages.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:47 PM
Mar 2019

He never put out the full returns.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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6. It depends on the type of fund.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:16 PM
Mar 2019

If the fund invests in income producing products (bonds, stocks that pay dividends etc) then you generate income. If the fund is in a pretax retirement fund the income is non taxable if rolled over and not withdrawn. If the fund is non retirement you pay taxes on income regardless of where it goes (rolled or withdrawn)

If the fund invests only in growth (non income producing products) stocks there is no income and income taxes are only due upon sale (if it is a non retirement account).

A quick look at the disclosure show a bunch of funds with “growth” in the name. Regardless, these all appear to be retirement accounts anyway

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still_one

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8. If they are retirement accounts they aren't taxable
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:33 PM
Mar 2019

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still_one

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13. I know, I was agreeing with you, in spite of my typo
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:14 PM
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Andy823

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11. How can you tell if they are retirement accounts
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 08:54 PM
Mar 2019

There are a lot of mutual funds listed.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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12. I see a lot of those TIAA and CREF funds on people's retirement statements when I do financials.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:01 PM
Mar 2019

TIAA and cref big with public employees, iirc. Teachers and government workers

That and Bernie doesn’t show the income on the tax return - especially the bond fund because that would trigger a tax liability if NOT a retirement account.

Unless he’s cheating on his taxes. Which would make him the worst tax cheat ever. Is that what you think you have discovered?

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Snotcicles

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14. Antoino Porchia: Don't uncover, because there might be nothing. And nothing can't be covered again.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:49 PM
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