Democratic Primaries

applegrove

(118,778 posts) Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:11 PM Dec 2019

Biden says he would not voluntarily appear as witness in Senate trial Biden told a reporter Wednesd

Biden says he would not voluntarily appear as witness in Senate trial

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/impeachment-hearings-live-updates/2019/12/04/b7cc7b4e-1682-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html#link-ILFCDHAQFY6LJFPLL7X7UK25WU

"SNIP.....

Biden told a reporter Wednesday that he wouldn’t voluntarily appear as a witness in a Senate impeachment trial if called to testify.

“No, I’m not going to let them take their eye off the ball,” Biden said, according to video posted by an ABCNews reporter. “The president is the one who has committed impeachable crimes. And I’m not going to let them divert from that, I’m not going to let anyone divert from that.”

Biden added that he’d released 21 years of his tax returns, so if Trump is worried about corruption, “let him release some of his.”

....SNIP"

By Colby Itkowitz Washington Post

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden says he would not voluntarily appear as witness in Senate trial Biden told a reporter Wednesd (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2019 OP

I think this should have been posted in GD. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #1

I think this is an attempt to hurt Biden's campaign. applegrove Dec 2019 #3

Maybe. But that is pure speculation. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #8

You can't be serious. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #10

Yes. That might be the case elsewhere, but DU is a Dem forum. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #14

Irrelevant. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #19

Speculation. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #29

No it's not. Sugarcoated Dec 2019 #33

Don't let partisanism be blinding. Of course it is. Hortensis Dec 2019 #34

There are none so blind as those who will not see. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #37

Clearly, it is. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #12

Clearly the Ukraine/Biden issue is an impeachment issue. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #15

There's nothing partisan about it. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #20

Because the Repubs brought it up first. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #22

So what's your angle? BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #31

Nope. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #6

Too bad.. it's about Joe Biden. Glad it's posted in DP. Cha Dec 2019 #9

It's not "bad" for me. What do you mean by that? JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #17

Maybe she/he means too bad nobody agrees with you on where to place applegrove Dec 2019 #21

That's ok with me. Why is it "bad" for you or George? JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #23

It's not bad for the rest of us, either, who Cha Dec 2019 #26

Cool. Ok. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #27

This is troubling for Bernie. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #38

Any posts about any of the primary candidates belong in "Democratic Primaries". George II Dec 2019 #24

Ok! Thanks for that. I may need to quote ya on that. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #28

They are going to try to catch him in a vague answer and Benghazi Biden if they ask applegrove Dec 2019 #2

I don't blame him one bit. No reason other than distraction. nt babylonsister Dec 2019 #4

I think this is a solid approach from Biden. Lexee Dec 2019 #5

I do not have access to WP-does anyone know if article discusses what might happen if riversedge Dec 2019 #7

I posted the whole story on Biden. It was one of many snippets on different applegrove Dec 2019 #16

Expect the Howls Of Outrage Bayard Dec 2019 #11

Honoring a subpoena is mandatory, not voluntary, therefore Biden would comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #30

No, "voluntarily" means without subpoena. Hortensis Dec 2019 #35

He should just say he'll show up when rainy Dec 2019 #13

Biden knows, as everyone else should know, that tRump's legal team plans on turning the yaesu Dec 2019 #18

Good move on Biden's part. Scurrilous Dec 2019 #32

he he he..... Bayard Dec 2019 #36

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

1. I think this should have been posted in GD.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:13 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

applegrove

(118,778 posts)

3. I think this is an attempt to hurt Biden's campaign.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:14 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

8. Maybe. But that is pure speculation.

Reply to applegrove (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:21 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)

10. You can't be serious.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:32 PM

Dec 2019

It's quite clear that Trump manufactured the Biden/Ukraine conspiracy theory and its subsequent developments, and it's also quite clear that the reason for doing so was to kneecap Biden's run for the presidency.

You disagree? Really?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

14. Yes. That might be the case elsewhere, but DU is a Dem forum.

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:47 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)

19. Irrelevant.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:54 PM

Dec 2019

The only reason to subpoena Biden would be to undermine his campaign. Any assertion to the contrary would be laughable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

25. Speculation.

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:14 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Response to JoeOtterbein (Reply #25)

comradebillyboy This message was self-deleted by its author.

Sugarcoated

(7,728 posts)

33. No it's not.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 05:48 AM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

34. Don't let partisanism be blinding. Of course it is.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:17 AM

Dec 2019

Should any of us be viewing the Trump impeachment through a take-out-Biden lens? Isn't the impeachment about taking out Trump?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

37. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:33 PM

Dec 2019

Bias can be an effective means of blindness.

Your own choice though certainly.

(this post was written by this poster)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)

12. Clearly, it is.

Reply to applegrove (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:35 PM

Dec 2019

The whole point of the Ukraine/Biden nonsense was to kneecap Biden's campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

15. Clearly the Ukraine/Biden issue is an impeachment issue.

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:50 PM

Dec 2019

We should not make it a partisan issue. Because the Repubs will take it up faster than us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)

20. There's nothing partisan about it.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:56 PM

Dec 2019

The only reason to drag Biden in would be to undermine his campaign.

The assertion that this has nothing to do with his campaign is ridiculous.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

22. Because the Repubs brought it up first.

Reply to TwilightZone (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:00 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

BannonsLiver

(16,448 posts)

31. So what's your angle?

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 02:57 AM

Dec 2019

Are you annoyed impeachment is not Bernie related? Are you fearful that it might help Biden’s campaign? Are you hopeful it might hurt him and in turn help Bernie? What’s the angle?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)

6. Nope.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:17 PM

Dec 2019

The whole Trump Ukraine/Biden nonsense is most definitely related to his run for the presidency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,655 posts)

9. Too bad.. it's about Joe Biden. Glad it's posted in DP.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:24 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

17. It's not "bad" for me. What do you mean by that?

Reply to Cha (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:51 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

applegrove

(118,778 posts)

21. Maybe she/he means too bad nobody agrees with you on where to place

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:59 PM

Dec 2019

it. I thought it through and thought. If the WH is going to attack one of our candidates because he is a candidate, it belong in his or her story. But i did have to think about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

23. That's ok with me. Why is it "bad" for you or George?

Reply to applegrove (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:02 PM

Dec 2019

I'm here to change minds and hearts. I know it is always difficult to do so.

I don't get it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Cha

(297,655 posts)

26. It's not bad for the rest of us, either, who

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:19 PM

Dec 2019

want to see this news of Biden in DP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

27. Cool. Ok.

Reply to Cha (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:23 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

38. This is troubling for Bernie.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:36 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

24. Any posts about any of the primary candidates belong in "Democratic Primaries".

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:12 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

28. Ok! Thanks for that. I may need to quote ya on that.

Reply to George II (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:24 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

applegrove

(118,778 posts)

2. They are going to try to catch him in a vague answer and Benghazi Biden if they ask

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:13 PM

Dec 2019

for him to testify.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

babylonsister

(171,090 posts)

4. I don't blame him one bit. No reason other than distraction. nt

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:16 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Lexee

(377 posts)

5. I think this is a solid approach from Biden.

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:16 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

riversedge

(70,299 posts)

7. I do not have access to WP-does anyone know if article discusses what might happen if

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:20 PM

Dec 2019

Biden is subpoenaed??---(that would not be voluntary).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

applegrove

(118,778 posts)

16. I posted the whole story on Biden. It was one of many snippets on different

Reply to riversedge (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:51 PM

Dec 2019

impeachment angles.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Bayard

(22,149 posts)

11. Expect the Howls Of Outrage

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:33 PM

Dec 2019

Biden is saying he wouldn't obey a subpoena!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

comradebillyboy

(10,175 posts)

30. Honoring a subpoena is mandatory, not voluntary, therefore Biden would

Reply to Bayard (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 02:37 AM

Dec 2019

honor a subpoena, unlike Trump or his minions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

35. No, "voluntarily" means without subpoena.

Reply to Bayard (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:21 AM

Dec 2019

Of course Biden would obey a subpoena.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

rainy

(6,095 posts)

13. He should just say he'll show up when

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:44 PM

Dec 2019

Pompeo, Rudy, Bolton and the rest show up.
Not really since he has nothing to do with the impeachment articles. But how dare republicans ask for him to testify.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

yaesu

(8,020 posts)

18. Biden knows, as everyone else should know, that tRump's legal team plans on turning the

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:53 PM

Dec 2019

Senate parts of the impeachment into a circus, it will be all about "them Dems" and Biden is right not to want to be a part of that mess. Its going to be a shit show & I hope Dems are ready for it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided