they can pick and choose which answer makes Biden seem less open and honest. F that. Biden should stick to two answers.

I say - piss off. Be tough. Pivot to the Trump kids

They've won if Biden responds to accusations against him by saying hey, look at the Trump kids.

But we're still in the primaries, and Joe Biden doesn't have the nomination locked up, or even nearly so.

Besides, "My family's nepotism is not as bad as the other guy's nepotism," is probably not a winning strategy.

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Trump and team make up @#$% about Biden and try and get an investigation announced (just announced, not actually carried out) because they know the press will avidly jump on the story and catapult it further for them.

Especially any time Chuck Todd is on the air.

that (and many independents and even some Democrats watch Fox) -- I think Biden should have simply said it wasn't true. That he ONLY carried out official US policy, and there is NO evidence at all supporting any of these claims.

"SNIP.....

“You sent your son over there … in order to get access for the president, or you were selling access to the president just like he [Trump] is.”

.....SNIP"

I don't think anybody says that Hunter was sent over to Ukraine to get access for the president. Maybe that is what Biden meant when he said "nobody says that". So it is actually is true what Biden said.

about Hunter selling access. Fox news and many other rightwing sources have reported him pushing this idea.

I'm not going to post from a RW source, but there was a Fox story on 9/26. You can do the googling yourself.

I think the Dems should pay attention to the propaganda that's being circulated so we're ready to respond to it, and not get caught off guard.

"SNIP.....

"You sent your son over there … in order to get access for the president"


or you were selling access to the president just like he [Trump] is

....SNIP"

Nobody has accused President Obama of needing access to those in Ukraine Hunter Biden was dealing with. Then the man says the opposite. That is what Biden meant when he said "nobody is saying that". The first part was never an accusation at the Bidens.

who wanted a private meeting with Trump.

The confusion is that the "president" in the first sentence referred to Zelensky and in the second, to Trump.

I think Biden would have been better off flat out denying it, and pointing out why it couldn't be true (the timeline makes no sense) then to claim that "no one's saying this."

did not lie as "you sent your son there" happened when Obama was president and the reporter was vague, perhaps intentionally so, and Biden assumed the wrong president was being referenced. So no lie.But i bet ya the GOP use coprehension games to attack our candidates. Maybe being intentionally vague is a thing with the GOP now. I speak in a vague way as i have conduction aphasia. It was used against me to lead to misleading narratives by a gang of psychopaths. Joe heard a very vague question and assumed more than usual (understanding vagueness requires more assumptions by its very nature) and assumed the reporter was talking about Obama. You said Joe was wrong and he was not. It was a misunderstanding.

I do think his staff needs to prepare him better to deal with this issue. It's been out there for months and he should have a better answer than "no one says this" when the fact is that a best selling author says this, and it's being echoed all over the RW media.

list of tricks the GOP may be up to.

what he was talking about, because for the RW media it's a big story.

I've often noticed in various stories on TV that reporters will forget to say President TRUMP or President ZELENSKY when discussing the two. They'll just say "the president" and then I have to pause to make certain I know which president they're talking about. So I doubt this reporter was being purposefully vague; just sloppy.

Communicators OFTEN think they're being clearer than they are. They know in their heads what they're thinking, and they don't realize it's not coming out in their words.

so I'll park that observation unless i see a pattern.

say looking at the threads around here it sure does look like it's working. Really pathetic.

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with Hillary. Not here. But certainly an uptick tonight and subtle in magnitude.

That's simple.

-He stays out of his kids’ business, always has.
-Sometimes they don’t make the best choices; every parent can relate.
-In no way did Hunter’s position at Burisma influence his decisions re Ukraine, the record proves it.
-That said, he understands it looks bad/less than ideal which is why he’ll have a higher standard on family members and work overseas when he’s President.

Having the discipline to stick to the script keeping his emotions in check will be the challenge. Anything family-related sets him off and he needs to work on that.

He took a subject that was a press darling that was supposed to torpedo him, and he turned it into an asset for himself.

I'd say Biden should also stress that EVERY intelligence agency has debunked any wrongdoing, and there is clear evidence, which he should provide, that Russia is behind the story AND he should reiterate that Russia stole the last election.

of other candidates, and their coverage of Biden has been entirely or almost entirely critical.

This is just another line of attack, after others have failed to destroy Biden's campaign.

What about Jared, Eric, and Junior's constant business dealings? What those nepotistic brats are doing skirts the law every day, and breaks the law every week. Hunter did none of that.

I think it would certainly jelp.