Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumPolitico on Double Standard: "You spent a f---ing week on pneumonia-gate"
While Fox News runs interference on recent reports that Trump had an unscheduled medical exams while pronouncing that he is in great health, and Bernie Sanders' campaign bragging about how his heart attack "motivated him even more" you have to wonder about the sexist double standard that women candidates are subjected to.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/women-rule/2019/10/11/you-spent-a-f-ing-week-on-pneumonia-gate-487414
The news of Senator Bernie Sanders heart attack has made headlines, sure. But compared to the relentless media reports about Hillary Clintons near fainting-spell in 2016, brought on by pneumonia, the coverage of Sanders health problems has been light.
There are differences, of course. Clinton, who was 68 at the time, was the Democratic nominee. Sanders, 78, is still in the primary. But some people also suspect theres a sexist double standard at work: Veterans of the Clinton campaign have been exchanging text messages this week, wryly reminiscing about how much attention the pneumonia incident got back in 2016, fueled by speculation, especially in conservative media, that Clinton was hiding larger health problems. (Sanders waited three days to disclose that hed had a heart attack.)
Press secretary Brian Fallon and I spent eight full days on pneumonia-gate It was one of the hardest weeks of the entire campaign, just trying to dig out from it, recalls Jennifer Palmieri, who was director of communications for the Clinton 2016 presidential campaign. I just want to be like, Hey, national media, you spent a f---ing week on pneumonia gate two months before America elected Donald Trump president of the United States. OK? Thats what you did.
I did hear from a lot of reporters who texted me just to be like, Why isnt Bernies heart attack a bigger deal? Palmieri told me. Im like I dont know, youre, like, in the press, you should be making it a big deal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)of Presidential candidates!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)If anything, he should be totally transparent given his recent heart attack. Heck, even Joe Biden is now getting roasted in the press about his age even though he is younger than Bernie and has not had a heart attack.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Just slogans and rah rah.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)...but first let him put some mileage on his heart condition lest the corporate media be accusing him of lying or covering up...
"...Veterans of the Clinton campaign have been exchanging text messages this week..."
...why are we still beating a dead horse when Bernie is the candidate corporate media truly maligns or ignores?
...watch, after Bernie becomes the nominee if cooperate media doesn't suddenly rediscover trump (if he's around)...oh, he's not so bad, he's just misunderstood, now's not the time to be switching horses midstream, better the devil know with endless trump lies and interviews, etc....
...yes, Hillary got a raw deal, but why not leave it at that and not lump Bernie in unfairly with the likes of trump or regurgitate old news...
...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dsc
(52,162 posts)Yes, we can over do the sexist double standard stuff, it wasn't all about that, but give me an ever loving break. Trump gets rushed to the hospital unexpectedly and we are told a ridiculous tall tale and the media is crickets. Sanders has a heart attack, doesn't tell the press for 3 days and crickets. Hillary looks wobbly at an appearance where she had pnemona and it was wall to wall coverage for 8 days. Oh, and remember the list of reporters and editors who harassed women that circulated, nearly all still have their jobs. Wanna bet if a list of anti Semetic reporters and editors circulated every person on the list would be fired end of business that day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,768 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)That would be President Obama. 11 years straight.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/barack-obama-most-admired/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)Please follow the thread.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)That was the point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radius777
(3,635 posts)the type of faces we see in the history books, on Mt Rushmore, on our currency, etc - faces that are synonymous with leadership, authority, gravitas.
So it is simply assumed such individuals are capable of the job, whereas with PoC and women the assumption is the opposite - and it is through this lens which media coverage is filtered.
So when it comes to health and aging - Trump/Biden/Sanders are portrayed as spunky and spry, and Hillary was portrayed as feeble, dying, etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)coverup.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madville
(7,410 posts)So its not really a big deal.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SterlingPound
(428 posts)If there is no chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
madville
(7,410 posts)If he was leading the primary the media and other campaign surrogates would have weaponized it to tear him down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Yes, he has 15-20% of voters who will back him no matter what, but that floor is not far from his ceiling.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)play up the Basket of Deplorables comment.
In actual fact, the Basket of Deplorables was turned into much bigger moment after the election was over than it ever was during the election.
The best evidence from that chapter tells us that "Basket of Deplorables" did not significantly affect the election, while pneumonia-gate had a major effect on the state of the race. It is to Hillary's credit, as a candidate, that she was able to run a good enough campaign to offset that challenge, and she was in line for a decisive victory of Trump.
And then, of course, James Comey intervened. At the end of the day, it was Comey's election from start to finish.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StevieM
(10,500 posts)That candidate may or may not be Senator Sanders.
And if Bernie had been the nominee in 2016 then he would have been placed under FBI investigation for some ridiculous reason. Any Democrat running in that year would have been.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SterlingPound
(428 posts)I wish that was actually the case.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,331 posts)but Politico, along with the rest of the MSM, has never reflected on their horrible coverage of and animus toward HRC.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)I am boycotting the NYT nd I am happy with my subscription to the Washington Post.
I will NOT be boycotting MSNBC except when MSNBC has Michel Moore on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)Bernie had a freaking heart attack and they glossing it over. Trump is huge and eats absolute trash but we are supposed to believe he is the healthiest person on the planet. Im plus sized and I know Im at a higher risk for certain conditions. You wont here me out there claiming to be the healthiest person alive. Trump got away with saying she did not have the stamina for the job and he cant walk on the golf course without getting out of breath.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
maximusveritas
(2,915 posts)both when it comes to negative stories as well as positive ones.
The media is primarily motivated by what gets ratings/clicks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Bernie is not even a Democrat, yet he was often featured as a guest over the past three years. Elizabeth Warren did not get that kind of attention and nor did Kamala Harris. I guess they just needed some one to fill in John McCain's slot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)If I remember right, this happened at the 911 ceremony. I can only imagine the response if she'd begged off going pleading illness. People still would've been expressing "concern" about her health or would've accused her of faking it and not caring about the 911 victims. She just can't win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden