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Uncle Joe

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Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:50 AM Dec 2019

Bernie Sanders' Fight To Save Minor League Baseball Is One Issue That's Unifying Congress



It is not surprising Sen. Bernie Sanders has spent significant time over the last couple of weeks railing against a small group of billionaires whom he thinks are choosing profit over humanity. But in a strange twist, House minority leader Kevin McCarthy agrees with the democratic socialist, along with over 100 bipartisan members of Congress—including Rep. Elise Stefanik, one of President Donald Trump’s most vociferous defenders during the impeachment proceedings.

Last month, the aforementioned 106 congressional members sent a letter to MLB expressing their “firm opposition” to a cost-cutting proposal that would slash 42 minor league teams across the country. The current agreement between MLB and its minor league affiliates expires at the end of next season.

One proposal would regroup more than 40 teams in an inferior “Dream League” that would be run jointly by MLB and Minor League Baseball and include players who weren’t drafted. MLB, which generated a record-setting $10.3 billion in revenue last year, pays the entirety of minor league salaries. The undertaking costs the league as little as $1,160 and $2,150 per month for each Single-A and Triple-A player, per ESPN.

Sanders, like former MLB commissioner Bud Selig, says baseball is more of a public trust than a business. The Democratic presidential hopeful points to the league’s unique antitrust exemption from Congress and practice of using public funds to finance stadiums as reasons why franchises are indebted to their host communities. This week, Sanders met with commissioner Rob Manfred, which prompted MLB to release a vaguely worded statement saying it is “committed to negotiating with Minor League Baseball to find solutions that balance the competing interests of local communities, MLB clubs, Minor League owners, and the young players who pursue their dream of becoming professional baseball players.”

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexreimer/2019/12/06/bernie-sanders-fight-to-save-minor-league-baseball-is-one-issue-thats-unifying-congress/#e5207ca5777a

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Bernie Sanders' Fight To Save Minor League Baseball Is One Issue That's Unifying Congress (Original Post) Uncle Joe Dec 2019 OP
Another feather in Bernie's cap!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #1
Save the Durham Bull! TeamPooka Dec 2019 #2
If this is the monumental achievement in his 28-year career RandySF Dec 2019 #3
Premise is false. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #4
Or in cities, actually. MineralMan Dec 2019 #5
yeah I meant 'outside major cities'. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #6
However, the Saint Paul Saints are not affiliated with MineralMan Dec 2019 #7
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

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1. Another feather in Bernie's cap!!
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:51 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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RandySF

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3. If this is the monumental achievement in his 28-year career
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:13 AM
Dec 2019

What should we expect him to accomplish over four years as President?

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Voltaire2

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4. Premise is false.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 09:37 AM
Dec 2019

But there is a standard attack on Sanders that he can’t work on bipartisan legislation.

You do know that minor league teams are frequently an important pillar of community life outside cities, right?

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MineralMan

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5. Or in cities, actually.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 12:13 PM
Dec 2019

Not huge cities, but cities all the same. We have one such team here in St. Paul, MN. Now, St. Paul is not a major city, but it's a sizable one. We have the St. Paul Saints, an unaffiliated, independent minor league team.

With the support of the City of St. Paul, that team recently built a new ball field in downtown St. Paul. It's a great place to watch baseball, if that's something you like to do. A few thousand people show up for every home game, and the team is thriving. My wife and I have even attended a couple of games, one time paying $35 a seat to sit directly behind home plate in four seats set up like a big porch swing. We invited a couple to join us for the game.

But, we're not baseball fans, and one game a year is enough.

My point here is that the St. Paul Saints is a business. It has managed, through good publicity and advertising to make its games popular as a diversion on a warm afternoon. The food is great at the concessions. The field is easy to get to and parking is cheap. The company is moderately successful, and the play is entertaining.

That is what will save minor league baseball, not machinations in Congress.

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Voltaire2

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6. yeah I meant 'outside major cities'.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 12:17 PM
Dec 2019

I know you are now officially against any legislation, but the point is that a) it has bipartisan support, and b) MLB is effectively a federally chartered monopoly and as such it is entirely appropriate for the charter grantor - congress - to 'machinate' in order to protect minor league teams.

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MineralMan

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7. However, the Saint Paul Saints are not affiliated with
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 12:29 PM
Dec 2019

any MLB organization. While St. Paul is a mid-sized city, a light rail line terminates right at their new stadium, which brings people to games from a 3-million population in the metro area.

My point, once again, is that baseball teams can be successful if they are able to attract a crowd at their games. The team here is an example of that, despite its non-affiliation with MLB or any MLB team.

No legislation will convert an unsuccessful minor league team into a successful one. MLB operates a system of farm teams that act as training grounds and holding pens for the players needed for its primary teams. The financial success of those minor league teams is not really a factor in their existence. Some do well. Others do not, but they are all essential for the purpose they exist to serve.

It is my opinion that it is not the responsibility of Congress to legislate anything having to do with professional sports teams. They are, as you say, a monopoly sanctioned by Congress. I find that noxious, frankly.

Professional sports should be solely funded by the audience for them. They should thrive or fail on their own merits. I object to any taxpayer participation in building their stadiums or other facilities. I object to their monopoly status. I object to their influence on our public schools at all levels, as well.

I do not offer kudos to any politician who spends any time perpetuating the support of professional sports teams.

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