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TexasTowelie

(112,386 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 07:43 AM Dec 2019

Biden calls Sanders' pitch to leverage Israel aid 'bizarre'

OELWEIN, IOWA - Joe Biden said Saturday that it is "bizarre" for Bernie Sanders to propose withholding U.S. military aid from Israel if the government there doesn't moderate its treatment of Palestinians.

The remarks highlight a nuanced but significant distinction between the Democratic presidential contenders. Biden and Sanders support a "two-state solution" for Israel and the Palestinians, and both men have criticized political leaders on each side of the long-standing conflict. But Biden's take, offered during a question-and-answer session with Iowa voters, hewed a more traditional U.S. establishment line by reaffirming a financial commitment to Israel regardless of its actions toward Palestinians.

The former vice president, while casting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as a "counterproductive" and "extreme right" leader and accused Palestinian leaders of ``fomenting'' the conflict and ``baiting everyone who is Jewish,'' while suggesting that some on the U.S. political left give the Palestinian Authority ``a pass'' when criticizing Israeli leadership.

"In terms of Bernie and others who talk about dealing with Zionism, I strongly support Israel as an independent Jewish state,'' Biden said in rural northeastern Iowa. He added, ``The idea that I'd withdraw military aid, as others have suggested, from Israel, is bizarre. I would not do that. It's like saying to France, `Because you don't agree with us, we're going to kick you out of NATO.''

Read more: https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-politics/biden-calls-sanders-pitch-leverage-israel-aid-bizarre
(Voice of America)

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Biden calls Sanders' pitch to leverage Israel aid 'bizarre' (Original Post) TexasTowelie Dec 2019 OP
I agree with Biden 100% OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #1
+++ still_one Dec 2019 #2
Gee, one might call that a "quid pro quo"? oldsoftie Dec 2019 #3
Imma bust your chops a bit here... Happy Hoosier Dec 2019 #19
Yep. Almost all aid to other countries is quid pro quo. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #22
Warren has also said she'd leverage aid to Israel. redqueen Dec 2019 #4
if... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #5
Simply not true. "take the gloves off?" Sanders' surrogates have been all over every word.... George II Dec 2019 #6
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Dec 2019 #8
Bring it on. As if you have not been doing this since Biden announced he is running. beastie boy Dec 2019 #9
Ah, the scorched earth policy. TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #10
LOL, you guys have had your "gloves off" for Democrats for the past few years. W_HAMILTON Dec 2019 #12
lol TwilightZone Dec 2019 #14
& one of the most "bizarre" lol Cha Dec 2019 #18
Get real.. BS is always taking "pot shots" at Cha Dec 2019 #17
Wait.... the gloves are on? Happy Hoosier Dec 2019 #20
Biden's correct, as usual. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #7
I agree with Joe Gothmog Dec 2019 #11
Biden is a friend of the Jewish state. tritsofme Dec 2019 #13
Looks like Donald Trump will owe Sen. Sanders a gift basket The Valley Below Dec 2019 #15
Yeah that's just like kicking France out of NATO. WTH Joe? aikoaiko Dec 2019 #16
Joe is known for "telling it like it is". In other words, "no malarkey". oasis Dec 2019 #21
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
1. I agree with Biden 100%
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 08:34 AM
Dec 2019

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I am critical of Israel 's government all the time but I think Sander, Ihlan Omar and others take it too far. Especially when they call for withholding aid to Israel but vote no on sanctions for Turkey.

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oldsoftie

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3. Gee, one might call that a "quid pro quo"?
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:19 AM
Dec 2019
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Happy Hoosier

(7,376 posts)
19. Imma bust your chops a bit here...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 09:48 AM
Dec 2019

Quid Pro Quos in diplomacy are FINE so long as the benefit is furthers the NATIONAL interest, not a personal interest.

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Hassin Bin Sober

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22. Yep. Almost all aid to other countries is quid pro quo.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 11:20 AM
Dec 2019

Anyone who doesn’t understand that has zero understanding of the way our diplomacy works. Do people really think we spend that money out of the goodness of our hearts?

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myohmy2

(3,175 posts)
5. if...
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:41 AM
Dec 2019

...Biden keeps taking pot-shots at Bernie then we might have to take the gloves off and respond in kind...

...everyone's been going pretty easy on Joe lest we all be accused of doing trump's impeachment dirty-work...

...but that can only go so far...

...it looks to me like Joe's either itching for a fight or is taking advantage of the situation...

...either way...

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George II

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6. Simply not true. "take the gloves off?" Sanders' surrogates have been all over every word....
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:46 AM
Dec 2019

....that Biden says, every move he makes, every gesture. Have you seen what Turner, Gray, and Sirota have been doing?

I'm surprised no one attacked him yesterday because he took the hand of a 100-year old woman and held it tightly.

C'mon man!

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beastie boy

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9. Bring it on. As if you have not been doing this since Biden announced he is running.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:13 AM
Dec 2019

Looking forward to more anti-Biden stuff from Bernie's surrogates to ignore.

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TexasTowelie

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10. Ah, the scorched earth policy.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:53 PM
Dec 2019

That will definitely influence people to vote for Bernie.

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W_HAMILTON

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12. LOL, you guys have had your "gloves off" for Democrats for the past few years.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 08:52 PM
Dec 2019
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TwilightZone

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14. lol
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:35 PM
Dec 2019

"everyone's been going pretty easy on Joe"

That's one of the funniest things I've ever read on DU.

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Cha

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18. & one of the most "bizarre" lol
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:47 AM
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Cha

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17. Get real.. BS is always taking "pot shots" at
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:41 AM
Dec 2019

VP Biden.

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Happy Hoosier

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20. Wait.... the gloves are on?
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 09:50 AM
Dec 2019

I keep seeing Sanders surrogates and campaign staffers taking shots all the time.

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tritsofme

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13. Biden is a friend of the Jewish state.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 08:54 PM
Dec 2019
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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
15. Looks like Donald Trump will owe Sen. Sanders a gift basket
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:37 PM
Dec 2019

Bizarre timing, to put it mildly.

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aikoaiko

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16. Yeah that's just like kicking France out of NATO. WTH Joe?
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 12:47 AM
Dec 2019

Talk about bizarre.

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oasis

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21. Joe is known for "telling it like it is". In other words, "no malarkey".
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 11:06 AM
Dec 2019
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