You all remember the tea party and the occupy wall street actions?
They were both an uproar about our government not being supportive of the people. The Republican party quickly took over the tea party and you know where that led.
The occupy group's biggest fear was being taken over by the Democrats, they wanted change. Real change not just a promise of change. Many members were former tea party folk. No change is status quo.
Now there are numerous reasons we have an ignorant asshole in the oval office but one of the reasons is the people want change.
There are many things that need changing. We are living in an oligarchy and citizens united is a large reason for this. As long as candidates get their funds from corporations and the wealthy few we will have status quo.
I could go on but want to be brief.

similar from both “sides...”

So good to see you here.

Thank you for your honesty.

and we don't have time for moderation, things have to change and change rapidly for the good of the people, the democracy and the country.

This is why I support Andrew Yang and his multitude of well thought out policy proposals starting with Universal Basic Income.

Is what got us here.

Could be wrong here, but does status quo = "the establishment"?

Because if that's the case, one of these is in order:

what brought us here.

And the consistent polls for Biden show that people want a familiar, trusted, experienced person after all.

I think Biden would do ok, but he sure does not generate much excitement

We've had good decades and bad decades but we're a great nation none the less.

right up until the November 2016 election -- had a part in where we are now. Sure there are other reasons, Comey, Russia, ignorant white wingers, etc. But that criticism had a part in bringing us trump.

is a state of stability that helps protect us from being taken over by extremists, left or right.

We are where we are now, in really, really bad trouble, because the status quo fell to its enemies. And our new status quo, morphing and shifting under our feet practically by the day, is really scary, the future dangerous and unknown.

Keep on truckin'!

If you were me, you'd be driving this car!

My child is an honor roll member at Ft. Vapid Elementary School!

It holds little weight in any way as it can be interpreted in any way.

Voters they are fairly clear about what they would like from a Democrat. They prefer, by 82% to 11%, one who promises to find common ground over one who promises to fight for a progressive agenda; and they prefer a moderate over a liberal, 75% to 19%.


They support Biden over the president, 38% to 27%, but prefer the president to Warren, 37% to 20%. Sanders is in between, with the president leading him, 34% to 32%. This group voted for Trump by a smaller margin in 2016, 37% to 30%, with the rest casting ballots for minor candidates.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287336368#post2

The link within the DU post doesn’t work, but you can find it by internet search

and Trump gets four more years...so spare me...I can read polls and look at the senate and how we won the house...this is a center left country and we need to accept that and work to change it but in the meantime we have to get elected to stop the carnage.

I would not have known that, had you not informed me. Maybe you should post more often, so we could glean more from your thinking.

Oh, and nice mask!

108 million lazy, stupid assholes .

The events of the past forty years are false memories implanted by the Russians through chem trails.

Or it's aliens?

Maybe aliens.

yes

And populism has not been the dominant "status quo" ideology of America in any of our lifetimes.

We are living in aberrant times. Populism is a bad path. Time to turn off it.

Going through old books, just read this in Robert Hughes' "The Culture of Complaint" (1993):

"Why do so many of the citizens of the world's oldest democracy not vote when they can ... ? Partly, it's an administrative problem -- the disappearance of the old party machine and ward system, whose last vestige was Chicago under Mayor Daley. Whatever its abuses, it got people street by street, household by household, to the ballot boxes. Its patronage system did help tie American people, especially blue-collar and lower middle class ones, to the belief that they as citizens had some role to play in the running of their country from the bottom up, ward by ward. It reinforced the sense of participatory democracy. Without it, the poor stopped voting because they believed that nobody in Washington did or could represent them. The less the poor vote, the more the party of the rich will benefit. This produced a vicious spiral, and American electoral techniques reshaped themselves to bypass the lower third of the society, except when it could be selectively stirred by threats of joblessness or veiled appeals to working-class racism.

"By the late 70s the American citizen was becoming a passive spectator at political events handed down in snippets between commercials. American network television is mostly junk designed to produce reality-shortage ... . No wonder that the act of pulling the lever every four years seemed to mean less, and that fewer people went to the booth to do it. ... In the 80s, as never before in America, we saw statecraft fuse with image-management. Too many things in this supposedly open republic got done out of sight of the citizens. Or they were presented in terms that mocked public intelligence by their brevity and cartoon-like simplicity. This was known as 'Letting Reagan be Reagan.' ... The strategy was to go for deep reflexes with trigger-words, to appeal to prejudice rather than reason or self-interest. The GOP's platform left nothing in the middle ground; it was raw anxious bigotry, aimed to separate Americans into 'us' and 'them.'"

It's who counts the votes"

Joseph Stalin

and not a Democratic talking point

...and you're right...

What is the status quo?

Who is the status quo?

What status quo brought us here?

What is here? Trump? The primaries?

I am confused by this post.

If you mean Trump - no. Actively going against the status quo brought us here. You know, electing a black man to the office of the presidency back in 2008. It drove white people crazy and they latched onto a racist bigot who was driven crazy by the fact a black man was president.

us United...and then in 2010 the left left Greens Abandoned Obama because he could not get a public option...and we lost the house. In 2014, we lost the Senate...Obama was at his lowest popularity with guess who? This cost us a Supreme Court Justice...then the worst betrayal of all 2016 where fucking Stein took enough votes away from Hillary to allow Trump to win. And now we face the abyss,,,if we don't win the progressive cause is dead...the status quo didn't get us here...Hillary didn't get us here nor did Gore or Kerry-it is just the opposite. Those who claim to be on our side did it...with friends like this, well you know the rest. And what is their important work now? are they all in to win in 20 ....why no, I hear the same shit as in 16. I guess it is more important to primary Democrats in areas where we could lose the seat or in safe Democratic areas...wow so impressive...instead of taking the fight to Trump they work to unseat Democrats....musical chairs. What a great plan!

Industrial age unfettered capitalism has instilled a cultural ethic where a persons entire value is based on their job and income.

Globalism and the age of technology has shifted the employment paradigm in the US from one of manufacturing and production to more consumer based. In and of itself, this is not a bad thing, but when combined with the first item of human value above drives a major problem. We have access to more goods at lower prices than at any time in history, but at a cost of fewer higher paying manufacturing jobs. These are not coming back.

Add to that, the “rust belt”, which has disproportionally affected by this paradigm shift in employment, but still maintains the value based system AND is a region that has tremendous influence in our national election cycles.

Despite the HUGE differences in policies, this is the region of the country that keeps going back and forth between giving us Republican government and Democratic Party governments..

Why? Democratic Party politicians keep promising new industries and relief for them.. which doesn’t materialize during the periods we hold power, so they go back to Republicans who keep promising them a return of those “glory days” of industrial age style manufacturing, which of course also never materializes... rinse and repeat. How else could a region give us 8 years of President Obama followed by 4 years of Trump??

Our focus has GOT to be education, healthcare, and economic recovery that is heavily focused on bringing the “rust belt” out of this rusty condition, AND once we regain power, we have got to make good on those promises, or the cycle will continue.

so powerful. Let's hope the primaries move us to a better place.

Otherwise, we don't stand a chance

Purity is poison.

Thanks for the thread tiredtoo.