Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumHere's a scenario for 2020 I could see:
Biden gets the nod and is our nominee. He invites Warren on his ticket as VP and she accepts. His strategy: he goes to the older voters and Warren goes to the younger, tours college campuses all around the country and talks to women's groups.
This strategy appeals to three major groups of voters: older, younger, women.
I know that's painting with a broad brush but it could very well marshal our strong groups together in one ticket.
What do you think?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And I would hope that if it happened, that Senator Sanders would enthusiastically tour as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
northoftheborder
(7,575 posts)Cannot say it should be Warren. Someone younger than himself, certainly, and someone who could credibly run in 2024 if Biden chooses not to.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)our candidates. I could probably see Kamala as vp candidate, too...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,640 posts)and I am very sure that if Biden is our nominee he will choose a woman.
There was talk back in 2016 when he was considering getting in the race, that he was interested in Elizabeth Warren as a possible VP. He met with her for a rather long meeting.
I'm thinking Biden might go with Stacy Abrams and she made it quite clear yesterday that she would be interested. She is a woman, she is young, and she is a minority! Could be a winning combination, plus she is dynamite on the campaign trail.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,306 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,640 posts)and down-to-earth as well. A great combination and the perfect complement to Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Either helps him big. Warren doesn't.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lynintenn
(652 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,753 posts)I'm not certain that Warren would bring in the youth vote. Nor have I seen any signs that they're attracting the African-American vote that is so necessary to winning.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,374 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forgotmylogin
(7,539 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
INdemo
(6,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Polybius
(15,507 posts)It's not President, but it's right next to it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TheFarseer
(9,326 posts)If we go with a more moderate candidate, I hope we get a more progressive VP. Conversely, I like a progressive presidential nominee like Sanders or Warren paired with a centrist like Corey Booker.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Warren and Booker sound great to me but that gives us geographical sameness also...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Prof.Higgins
(194 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)They don't have good personal chemistry and assuming Biden gets the nod he's going to want someone he feels is on the same page he's on.
I see 3 keys to the VP pick for Biden:
1) Someone who helps us win in places like WI, MI, PA, MN (plus AZ, FL, etc). Focusing on the Electoral College.
2) Someone who can help move legislation through Congress, post-election. With a proven track record and good relationships.
3) A strong personal and ideological partner. A person he can trust to take on big work and someone who will always have his back, the way he had President Obama's back.
The person I see filling this spot best at this point is Amy Klobuchar.
Harris and Booker were in the running, but...
And I'm not sure Warren meets any of the three criteria above.
Bill
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Plus then she'd be in line for President after 8 years as Veep.
I love her and trust her. There are no down sides to her!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)But against that deficiency, she's serious, tough-minded, pragmatic, hard-working, smart, highly competent, and she gets things accomplished. Pretty great qualities in a VP.
Plus it seems like she can work well with others. That will be important if we hope to move legislation and it would double-up on Biden's qualities to create coalitions and find compromises that are generally necessary to get bills passed.
I started the season thinking Booker might be the person for this spot--especially since he does seem to have the sort of charisma that could set him up for a run post-Biden--but things haven't gone so well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)And I see no downside really.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)who can best help a Biden-led ticket to victory.
Plus all the other key points mentioned above. These make her the strongest choice at the moment in my estimation. And I don't thing that's going to change.
You mentioned setting up a VP for a post-Biden presidential run and that's where I see the only downside. But there are ways to make up for not being highly charismatic, and being a great VP--and proving ones leadership, competence, and character--would give her room to grow in the public's esteem.
I like this pick.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)to harry Truman. He wasn't considered presidential material but look what happened and Truman is now revered as a fine leader.
Thus Amy could be our first woman president and wouldn't that be wonderful!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
at140
(6,110 posts)She is very smart and intelligent, but listening to her I begin to doze off.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Including her home state, which is being heavily targeted by the GOP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,898 posts)be in a great position to run for President after Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)I'm 99% sure that if Biden wins the nomination, he will pick a woman as VP. Not to do so would pretty much enrage the entire Democratic Party, including Biden supporters. The only question then is, which woman?
He could try to win over Black voters by choosing a Black woman like Kamala Harris or Stacy Abrams.
He could try to win over more Progressive voters by choosing someone like Warren.
He could try to win over Midwest voters by picking someone like Klobuchar.
No matter what, if it's Biden who is the nominee, and he chooses a qualified woman, I bet he will kick Trump's ass.
He could definitely do it with Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,786 posts)And the progressive base will like this...why?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,786 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Is it a build on to Obama care?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,786 posts)THE BIDEN PLAN TO PROTECT & BUILD ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
I. GIVE EVERY AMERICAN ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE
From the time right before the Affordable Care Acts key coverage-related policies went into effect to the last full year of the Obama-Biden Administration, 2016, the number of Americans lacking health insurance fell from 44 million to 27 million an almost 40% drop. But President Trumps persistent efforts to sabotage Obamacare through executive action, after failing in his efforts to repeal it through Congress, have started to reverse this progress. Since 2016, the number of uninsured Americans has increased by roughly 1.4 million.
As president, Biden will stop this reversal of the progress made by Obamacare. And he wont stop there. Hell also build on the Affordable Care Act with a plan to insure more than an estimated 97% of Americans. Heres how:
Giving Americans a new choice, a public health insurance option like Medicare. If your insurance company isnt doing right by you, you should have another, better choice. Whether youre covered through your employer, buying your insurance on your own, or going without coverage altogether, the Biden Plan will give you the choice to purchase a public health insurance option like Medicare. As in Medicare, the Biden public option will reduce costs for patients by negotiating lower prices from hospitals and other health care providers. It also will better coordinate among all of a patients doctors to improve the efficacy and quality of their care, and cover primary care without any co-payments. And it will bring relief to small businesses struggling to afford coverage for their employees.
Increasing the value of tax credits to lower premiums and extend coverage to more working Americans. Today, families that make between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty level may receive a tax credit to reduce how much they have to pay for health insurance on the individual marketplace. The dollar amount of the financial assistance is calculated to ensure each family does not have to pay more than a certain percentage of their income on a silver (medium generosity) plan. But, these shares of income are too high and silver plans deductibles are too high. Additionally, many families making more than 400% of the federal poverty level (about $50,000 for a single person and $100,000 for a family of four), and thus not qualifying for financial assistance, still struggle to afford health insurance. The Biden Plan will help middle class families by eliminating the 400% income cap on tax credit eligibility and lowering the limit on the cost of coverage from 9.86% of income to 8.5%. This means that no family buying insurance on the individual marketplace, regardless of income, will have to spend more than 8.5% of their income on health insurance. Additionally, the Biden Plan will increase the size of tax credits by calculating them based on the cost of a more generous gold plan, rather than a silver plan. This will give more families the ability to afford more generous coverage, with lower deductibles and out-of-pocket costs.
Expanding coverage to low-income Americans. Access to affordable health insurance shouldnt depend on your states politics. But today, state politics is getting in the way of coverage for millions of low-income Americans. Governors and state legislatures in 14 states have refused to take up the Affordable Care Acts expansion of Medicaid eligibility, denying access to Medicaid for an estimated 4.9 million adults. Bidens plan will ensure these individuals get covered by offering premium-free access to the public option for those 4.9 million individuals who would be eligible for Medicaid but for their states inaction, and making sure their public option covers the full scope of Medicaid benefits. States that have already expanded Medicaid will have the choice of moving the expansion population to the premium-free public option as long as the states continue to pay their current share of the cost of covering those individuals. Additionally, Biden will ensure people making below 138% of the federal poverty level get covered. Hell do this by automatically enrolling these individuals when they interact with certain institutions (such as public schools) or other programs for low-income populations (such as SNAP).Learn more about how Bidens plan for health care benefits communities of color >>
II. PROVIDE THE PEACE OF MIND OF AFFORDABLE, QUALITY HEALTH CARE AND A LESS COMPLEX HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
Today, even for people with health insurance, our health care system is too expensive and too hard to navigate. The Biden Plan will not only provide coverage for uninsured Americans, it will also make health care more affordable and less complex for all.
The plans elements described above will help reduce the cost of health insurance and health care for those already insured in the following ways:
All Americans will have a new, more affordable option. The public option, like Medicare, will negotiate prices with providers, providing a more affordable option for many Americans who today find their health insurance too expensive.
Middle class families will get a premium tax credit to help them pay for coverage. For example, take a family of four with an income of $110,000 per year. If they currently get insurance on the individual marketplace, because their premium will now be capped at 8.5% of their income, under the Biden Plan they will save an estimated $750 per month on insurance alone. Thats cutting their premiums almost in half. If a family is covered by their employer but can get a better deal with the 8.5% premium cap, they can switch to a plan on the individual marketplace, too.
Premium tax credits will be calculated to help more families afford better coverage with lower deductibles. Because the premium tax credits will now be calculated based on the price of a more generous gold plan, families will be able to purchase a plan with a lower deductible and lower out-of-pocket spending. That means many families will see their overall annual health care spending go down.
The Biden Plan has several additional proposals aimed directly at cutting the cost of health care and making the health care system less complex to navigate. The Biden Plan will:
Stop surprise billing. Consumers trying to lower their health care spending often try to choose an in-network provider. But sometimes patients are unaware they are receiving care from an out-of-network provider and a big, surprise bill. Surprise medical billing could occur, for example, if you go to an in-network hospital but dont realize a specialist at that hospital is not part of your health plan. The Biden Plan will bar health care providers from charging patients out-of-network rates when the patient doesnt have control over which provider the patient sees (for example, during a hospitalization).
Tackle market concentration across our health care system. The concentration of market power in the hands of a few corporations is occurring throughout our health care system, and this lack of competition is driving up prices for consumers. The Biden Administration will aggressively use its existing antitrust authority to address this problem.
Lower costs and improve health outcomes by partnering with the health care workforce. The Biden Administration will partner with health care workers and accelerate the testing and deployment of innovative solutions that improve quality of care and increase wages for low-wage health care workers, like home care workers.
III. STAND UP TO ABUSE OF POWER BY PRESCRIPTION DRUG CORPORATIONS
Too many Americans cannot afford their prescription drugs, and prescription drug corporations are profiteering off of the pocketbooks of sick individuals. The Biden Plan will put a stop to runaway drug prices and the profiteering of the drug industry by:
Repealing the outrageous exception allowing drug corporations to avoid negotiating with Medicare over drug prices. Because Medicare covers so many Americans, it has significant leverage to negotiate lower prices for its beneficiaries. And it does so for hospitals and other providers participating in the program, but not drug manufacturers. Drug manufacturers not facing any competition, therefore, can charge whatever price they choose to set. Theres no justification for this except the power of prescription drug lobbying. The Biden Plan will repeal the existing law explicitly barring Medicare from negotiating lower prices with drug corporations.
Limiting launch prices for drugs that face no competition and are being abusively priced by manufacturers. Through his work on the Cancer Moonshot, Biden understands that the future of pharmacological interventions is not traditional chemical drugs but specialized biotech drugs that will have little to no competition to keep prices in check. Without competition, we need a new approach for keeping the prices of these drugs down. For these cases where new specialty drugs without competition are being launched, under the Biden Plan the Secretary of Health and Human Services will establish an independent review board to assess their value. The board will recommend a reasonable price, based on the average price in other countries (a process called external reference pricing) or, if the drug is entering the U.S. market first, based on an evaluation by the independent board members. This reasonable price will be the rate Medicare and the public option will pay. In addition, the Biden Plan will allow private plans participating in the individual marketplace to access a similar rate.
Limiting price increases for all brand, biotech, and abusively priced generic drugs to inflation. As a condition of participation in the Medicare program and public option, all brand, biotech, and abusively priced generic drugs will be prohibited from increasing their prices more than the general inflation rate. The Biden Plan will also impose a tax penalty on drug manufacturers that increase the costs of their brand, biotech, or abusively priced generic over the general inflation rate.
Allowing consumers to buy prescription drugs from other countries. To create more competition for U.S. drug corporations, the Biden Plan will allow consumers to import prescription drugs from other countries, as long as the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has certified that those drugs are safe.
Terminating pharmaceutical corporations tax break for advertisement spending. Drug corporations spent an estimated $6 billion in 2016 alone on prescription drug advertisements to increase their sales, a more than four-fold increase from just $1.3 billion in 1997. The American Medical Association has even expressed concerns among physicians about the negative impact of commercially driven promotions, and the role that marketing costs play in fueling escalating drug prices. Currently, drug corporations may count spending on these ads as a deduction to reduce the amount of taxes they owe. But taxpayers should not have to foot the bill for these ads. As president, Biden will end this tax deduction for all prescription drug ads, as proposed by Senator Jeanne Shaheen.
Improving the supply of quality generics. Generics help reduce health care spending, but brand drug corporations have succeeded in preserving a number of strategies to help them delay the entrance of a generic into the market even after the patent has expired. The Biden Plan supports numerous proposals to accelerate the development of safe generics, such as Senator Patrick Leahys proposal to make sure generic manufacturers have access to a sample.
IV. ENSURE HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT FOR ALL, NOT A PRIVILEGE FOR JUST A FEW
Joe Biden believes that every American regardless of gender, race, income, sexual orientation, or zip code should have access to affordable and quality health care. Yet racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and other forms of discrimination permeate our health care system just as in every other part of society. As president, Biden will be a champion for improving access to health care and the health of all by:
Expanding access to contraception and protect the constitutional right to an abortion. The Affordable Care Act made historic progress by ensuring access to free preventive care, including contraception. The Biden Plan will build on that progress. Vice President Biden supports repealing the Hyde Amendment because health care is a right that should not be dependent on ones zip code or income. And, the public option will cover contraception and a womans constitutional right to choose. In addition, the Biden Plan will:
Reverse the Trump Administration and states all-out assault on womens right to choose. As president, Biden will work to codify Roe v. Wade, and his Justice Department will do everything in its power to stop the rash of state laws that so blatantly violate the constitutional right to an abortion, such as so-called TRAP laws, parental notification requirements, mandatory waiting periods, and ultrasound requirements.
Restore federal funding for Planned Parenthood. The Obama-Biden administration fought Republican attacks on funding for Planned Parenthood again and again. As president, Biden will reissue guidance specifying that states cannot refuse Medicaid funding for Planned Parenthood and other providers that refer for abortions or provide related information and reverse the Trump Administrations rule preventing Planned Parenthood and certain other family planning programs from obtaining Title X funds.
Just as the Obama-Biden Administration did,President Biden will rescind the Mexico City Policy (also referred to as the global gag rule) that President Trump reinstated and expanded. This rule currently bars the U.S. federal government from supporting important global health efforts including for malaria and HIV/AIDS in developing countries simply because the organizations providing that aid also offer information on abortion services.
Reducing our unacceptably high maternal mortality rate, which especially impacts people of color. Compared to other developed nations, the U.S. has the highest rate of deaths related to pregnancy and childbirth, and we are the only country experiencing an increase in this death rate. This problem is especially prevalent among black women, who experience a death rate from complications related to pregnancy that is more than three times higher than the rate for non-Hispanic white women. California came up with a strategy that halved the states maternal death rate. As president, Biden will take this strategy nationwide.
Defending health care protections for all, regardless of gender, gender identity, or sexual orientation. Before the Affordable Care Act, insurance companies could increase premiums merely due to someones gender, sexual orientation, or gender identity. Further, insurance companies could increase premiums or deny coverage altogether due to someones HIV status. Yet, President Trump is trying to walk back this progress. For example, he has proposed to once again allow health care providers and insurance companies to discriminate based on a patients gender identity or abortion history. President Biden will defend the rights of all people regardless of gender, sexual orientation, gender identity to have access to quality, affordable health care free from discrimination.
Doubling Americas investment in community health centers. Community health centers provide primary, prenatal, and other important care to underserved populations. The Biden Plan will double the federal investment in these centers, expanding access to high quality health care for the populations that need it most.
Achieving mental health parity and expanding access to mental health care. As Vice President, Biden was a champion for efforts to implement the federal mental health parity law, improve access to mental health care, and eliminate the stigma around mental health. As President, he will redouble these efforts to ensure enforcement of mental health parity laws and expand funding for mental health services.
In the months ahead, Biden will put forward additional plans to tackle health challenges affecting specific communities, including access to health care in rural communities, gun violence, and opioid addiction.
SUPPORTING HEALTH, NOT REWARDING WEALTH
Joe Biden believes in rewarding work, not just wealth and investing in hard-working Americans health, not protecting the most privileged Americans wealth. Warren Buffett said it best when he stated that he should not pay a lower tax rate than his secretary.
The Biden Plan will make health care a right by getting rid of capital gains tax loopholes for the super wealthy. Today, the very wealthy pay a tax rate of just 20% on long-term capital gains. According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, the capital gains and dividends exclusion is the second largest tax expenditure in the entire tax code: $127 billion in fiscal year 2019 alone. As President, Biden will roll back the Trump rate cut for the very wealthy and restore the 39.6% top rate he helped restore when he negotiated an end to the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy in 2012. Bidens capital gains reform will close the loopholes that allow the super wealthy to avoid taxes on capital gains altogether. The Biden plan will assure those making over $1 million will pay the top rate on capital gains, doubling the capital gains tax rate on the super wealthy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
at140
(6,110 posts)Therefore I recommend Warren/Biden ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)entitlement programs and Medicaid, investing in these to help them survive, reversed Republican gutting of ACA, invested in infrastructure, Shored up and adequately funded all our underfunded, at risk social programs and services, provided funds to improve k through 12 schools and students educational needs, subsidized EMS servers in rural areas...I.e. dealt with existing problems before adding more bureaucracy and investing in people who actually are not in need.
I think Biden shares that view. His proposals are doable. He cant be expected to support hers.
He has far more presidential qualifications, needed experience, and the FP creds she entirely lacks. Furthermore, he has a far better chance of attaining the nomination and going on to win against Trump than Warren at this stage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
at140
(6,110 posts)which would be a much needed quality to counter-balance the dozens and dozens of rallies Trump will hold during the campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)two septuagenarians could give pause. Too much of a good thing LOL.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
at140
(6,110 posts)GREAT! In 5 short months I will be lighting 80 candles LOL.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)lady in a glam retro dress and stretched across it in a font with attitude, Older women are so important.
Oh, we really are.
Warren, Sanders, Biden all leaders. Its inspiring.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)to those Independents we need.
Id prefer Harris, Klobuchar, Abrams, Yates, etc., as VP nominee because I think those key Independents prefer the same.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)big future for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kimbutgar
(21,216 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)maybe she was one of the little girls that Warren had a "pinky swear" with!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I think one of the biggest criteria for a Biden running mate is that they come from a "New Blue" state.
He's talked a lot about Georgia, but I think in that you also include Texas and Arizona as well. Those are the three Republican states that I see as ready to transition into swing territory and will be in play for this election. Biden already plays to the rust belt crowd, but picking up somebody from one of those would be a boost to the ticket. Somebody show me a believable path to victory that Trump has if Texas goes blue. You need somebody who can go in and be at home in these places.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,044 posts)Warren's positions are so far left she could cost Biden an electoral college victory.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
at140
(6,110 posts)1960's. I am 79 and have enough energy to do everything I did at age 50,
including mowing the lawn, painting the entire house, clean roof gutters, etc.
Only thing I won't do anymore is change oil & filter in my car because I don't have to.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ms liberty
(8,607 posts)He ask Warren to be his VP, and that she accept. We must have a united front in this election, and the only way we can do it is if all of our party, the left/center left/center and the center/moderate/conservatives come together. Biden can't ask Bernie, because two old white dudes is one too many, and there are a lot of people in the second group I mentioned above that hate Bernie because of 2016. You just can't get around that, and I say that as someone who supported Bernie in the 2016 primary and have followed his career with interest since the 90's,.
So if you rule Bernie out, the 'leftiest' (if I may take a lighthearted tone for a moment) appearing candidate is Warren. She presents as a much younger woman than her actual age, she would be acceptable I think to the first group above who might have less enthusiasm for Biden as POTUS, and she brings considerable experience and expertise to the table on her own. I would think the Biden supporters, most of whom would fall idealogically into the second group, would accept her. If he becomes the nominee, he has to have a woman IMO and while there are a number of women who would be accepted or perhaps even preferred by Biden supporters, Warren is the clear favorite amongst that first group. And the first groups concerns matter just as much as the second group. We need everyone on board and enthusiastic about voting next November. We cannot afford to have any of us disenchanted with the ticket.There's also a great deal of value to the team of rivals storyline itself: Biden/Warren - Bringing Democrats Together. If they committed to it and each other as partners it could be a winning combination. The possibility is there, if they would set aside or come to terms with their differences for the greater good.
She is my primary candidate, and I'd like to see her win the whole shebang, because she would make a great POTUS, and I do think she could beat Trump, but that wasn't your question. It is an interesting exercise right now, with all the contests still in the future.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madville
(7,412 posts)Just because I want to see him debate Pence
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madville
(7,412 posts)Biden already brings the black vote and the rust belt. It feels like Latino/Hispanic voters are the forgotten demographic in all this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,650 posts)Mass. has a GOP governor who would appoint a Republican to replace Warren
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)MA. I sure don't like it and it is a great flaw in my "plan," agree...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,710 posts)governor would appoint her replacement and GOP types win in Mass...so no. There are better less risky choices.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)With the Presidency and an R Senate, nothing happens.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)young people how? To old whites? Abrams would be a far smarter choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
myohmy2
(3,180 posts)...Joe's ever going to be our nominee...
...by the time the republicans get through dragging Joe and his family through the impeachment mug, there won't be many who will feel Joe is the best way to go...
...our only hope is to have a strong contrast between our candidate and trump...
...rightly or wrongly, Joe would then have a hard time...
...be honest, you know it's coming and you know it's true...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden