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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Biden holds a big lead over Trump with a key demographic: Cynics (WaPo's Philip Bump)
Philip Bump on new polling data from Quinnipiac suggesting that Biden, in contrast to Clinton in 2016, will get many more of the voters who don't like either candidate than Trump will:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/12/11/biden-holds-big-lead-over-trump-with-key-demographic-cynics/
A feature of modern presidential politics is a grim one: Voters are generally asked to choose between two candidates they might not like very much.
Sure, partisans are generally enthusiastic about their partys nominee, but in 2016, given how unpopular both candidates were, a sizable number of voters who cast ballots said they liked neither Donald Trump nor Hillary Clinton. According to exit polling conducted that year, about 1 in 5 voters said they liked neither Trump nor Clinton, about nine times as many as said they liked both major-party candidates.
That became important, given how close the 2016 election ended up being. As it turns out, while people who liked Trump and didnt like Clinton voted heavily for Trump (as youd expect), the current president also had an edge among people who disliked both him and Clinton. He won those voters by 17 points nationally and by margins in the closest states that were likely enough to hand him the electoral college victory he needed.
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The split between those who like or dont like the candidates is remarkably similar to 2016. Trump is the only candidate liked by 36 percent of respondents, same as the percentage of voters three years ago. Biden is the only one liked by 41 percent the same percentage of exit poll respondents who said the same of Clinton. The group of like-neithers is slightly smaller, at 12 percent.
How do they vote? According to Quinnipiac, they prefer Biden by a wide margin. This is a relatively small group of people, so the margin of error is fairly large, but Bidens margin is large enough that it doesnt matter.
Note that only 10 percent say theyd vote third party, half the percentage of the same group that said that in 2016. Another 9 percent say they wouldnt vote at all.
What we see when we compare those numbers to 2016 is a flip in sentiment among the cynical voters. That year, Trumps support among the like-neithers was about the same as his overall percentage; it was Clinton whose numbers plunged. In Quinnipiacs poll, Biden holds strong with that group, while Trumps numbers drop off a cliff.
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Sure, partisans are generally enthusiastic about their partys nominee, but in 2016, given how unpopular both candidates were, a sizable number of voters who cast ballots said they liked neither Donald Trump nor Hillary Clinton. According to exit polling conducted that year, about 1 in 5 voters said they liked neither Trump nor Clinton, about nine times as many as said they liked both major-party candidates.
That became important, given how close the 2016 election ended up being. As it turns out, while people who liked Trump and didnt like Clinton voted heavily for Trump (as youd expect), the current president also had an edge among people who disliked both him and Clinton. He won those voters by 17 points nationally and by margins in the closest states that were likely enough to hand him the electoral college victory he needed.
-snip-
The split between those who like or dont like the candidates is remarkably similar to 2016. Trump is the only candidate liked by 36 percent of respondents, same as the percentage of voters three years ago. Biden is the only one liked by 41 percent the same percentage of exit poll respondents who said the same of Clinton. The group of like-neithers is slightly smaller, at 12 percent.
How do they vote? According to Quinnipiac, they prefer Biden by a wide margin. This is a relatively small group of people, so the margin of error is fairly large, but Bidens margin is large enough that it doesnt matter.
Note that only 10 percent say theyd vote third party, half the percentage of the same group that said that in 2016. Another 9 percent say they wouldnt vote at all.
What we see when we compare those numbers to 2016 is a flip in sentiment among the cynical voters. That year, Trumps support among the like-neithers was about the same as his overall percentage; it was Clinton whose numbers plunged. In Quinnipiacs poll, Biden holds strong with that group, while Trumps numbers drop off a cliff.
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Editing to link to the Jennifer Rubin tweet that led me to this opinion piece:
Link to tweet
Republicans did not spend decades hating Biden the way they did Clinton. many sort of like the guy.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Biden holds a big lead over Trump with a key demographic: Cynics (WaPo's Philip Bump) (Original Post)
highplainsdem
Dec 2019
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(1,812 posts)1. Thanks Jen and Mr . Bump
Latest Quinnipiac Poll : Biden 51% Trump 42% . Bernie 51% Trump 43%
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,468 posts)2. Yeah, unfortunately the rw
gaslighting hate machine had decades to brainwash their cult against Hillary.
And jill fucking stein and her pushers hurt her, too.
Link to tweet
This is the shite we have to deal with.. those who pushed stein bc they didn't want the gaslit meme "lesser of two evils" should be ashamed of themselves. But, they're not. they don't care about the SCOTUS or the PLANET.
WE need to beat trump above all so this is good to see.. thank you, hpd
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden