Democratic Primaries

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts) Thu Dec 12, 2019, 05:45 PM Dec 2019

Comeback/Rebound/Surge/Going Strong (So Happy, I Could Plotz)

My, oh, my! It's been a while since I grinned this wide. Dan Pfeiffer, a former senior adviser to President Barack Obama, said Sanders has the “best chance” to sweep the first three states and that his odds are “underestimated and under-discussed.”

Per Sahil Kapur and Laura Litvan of Bloomberg News, "Bernie Sanders Makes A Comeback" and "Candidate Rebounds After Heart Attack" (link below).

• According to my thesaurus, comeback, rebound and surge are synonyms!

The Sanders Surge is even more real today than yesterday. Cynics, take your negativity elsewhere!

[full coverage, including citations, here]

December 12, 2019

He seems to have rebounded in recent weeks as he’s stuck to Medicare for All while other candidates have softened their stances and as he’s gained star endorsements from the younger faces in the movement.

National surveys released Tuesday by Quinnipiac and Monmouth show him slightly ahead -- but within the margin of error -- for second place among Democrats, behind Joe Biden.

And he’s going strong in the early nominating states. Recent polls place him second in Iowa — where he’s returning for several events this weekend — and statistically tied for the lead in New Hampshire and second in Nevada. And he’s statistically tied with Warren for the lead in California, a Super Tuesday state that provides 10% of the delegates to the Democratic nominating convention.

[full coverage, including citations, here]

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Comeback/Rebound/Surge/Going Strong (So Happy, I Could Plotz) (Original Post) corbettkroehler Dec 2019 OP

so much for the media blackout and burying of bernie nt msongs Dec 2019 #1

I Wish That Were So But We Just Had This, Too corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #6

Bernie up 7% in SC according to Change Research/ Post and Courier Poll just released ritapria Dec 2019 #2

I went to their website. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #11

"Cynics, take your negativity elsewhere!", is that in one of the links you posted or your sentiment? George II Dec 2019 #3

No, It Was My Sentiment Aimed At DUers Who Continue To Deny The Sanders Surge corbettkroehler Dec 2019 #5

Bernie is doing great. I think it will be Biden and Bernie in Iowa and NH UncleNoel Dec 2019 #7

I don't acknowledge what's not supported by facts... brooklynite Dec 2019 #8

Hmmmm, got pretty quiet here. Eh? George II Dec 2019 #4

Corporate media working for a horse race. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #9

Moving sideways, sure? Surging forward? Well, surging like peanut butter maybe. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #10

msongs

(67,433 posts)

1. so much for the media blackout and burying of bernie nt

Reply to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:01 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)

6. I Wish That Were So But We Just Had This, Too

Reply to msongs (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:41 AM

Dec 2019

Link to tweet

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

ritapria

(1,812 posts)

2. Bernie up 7% in SC according to Change Research/ Post and Courier Poll just released

Reply to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:05 PM

Dec 2019

He vaulted from 13% to 20% from the poll they conducted in October To be fair , this polling outfit do post anti-Biden outliers on a fairly consistent basis …..…...Grains of Salt required .

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

OldRed2450

(710 posts)

11. I went to their website.

Reply to ritapria (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:46 AM

Dec 2019

It's an online poll. I was able to vote as many times as I wanted.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

3. "Cynics, take your negativity elsewhere!", is that in one of the links you posted or your sentiment?

Reply to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:10 PM

Dec 2019

As for the numbers in the Quinnipiac and Monmouth polls, here are Biden's and Sanders' numbers in the most recent and previous poll from each:

Quinnipiac

Biden/Sanders
29/17 December
24/13 November

Biden +5, Sanders +4, Biden a net gain of +1

Monmouth

Biden/Sanders
26/21 December
23/20 October

Biden +3, Sanders +1, Biden a net gain of +2

If Sanders has "rebounded", how do we characterize Biden's performance?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)

5. No, It Was My Sentiment Aimed At DUers Who Continue To Deny The Sanders Surge

Reply to George II (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:40 AM

Dec 2019

The evidence now has LEAPT over the threshold of incontrovertible.

Biden is doing fine but no one denied his surge. The facts I posted which mentioned Biden only included him for contrast.

Does this mean that you concur that the Sanders Surge is real?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

UncleNoel

(864 posts)

7. Bernie is doing great. I think it will be Biden and Bernie in Iowa and NH

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:37 AM

Dec 2019

andin many other states. Perhaps it is too mean to say that Warren is Sanders-Lite and Buttigieg is Biden-Lite, but perhaps it is so. I'll take mine full-flavorr!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

brooklynite

(94,681 posts)

8. I don't acknowledge what's not supported by facts...

Reply to corbettkroehler (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:10 AM

Dec 2019

https://projects.economist.com/democratic-primaries-2020/

Sanders is - on average - at 16%. In October he was at...16%. In July he was at...16%. The two polls puttinghom in the low 20s have been superseded by new polling which puts him at...16%.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

4. Hmmmm, got pretty quiet here. Eh?

Reply to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Thu Dec 12, 2019, 10:57 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TidalWave46

(2,061 posts)

9. Corporate media working for a horse race.

Reply to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:30 AM

Dec 2019

Ironically, the only people buying such garbage are either completely anti-corporate or a part of the structure that enriched themselves from influencing elections.

I’m willing to go onboard with the thought he is surging. Maybe at one point they will vet him during the fake surge.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

10. Moving sideways, sure? Surging forward? Well, surging like peanut butter maybe.

Reply to corbettkroehler (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:32 AM

Dec 2019

But I get it... bias confirmation can be a real concern when we're dealing with our sacred cows.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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