Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe whole "it takes a socialist to beat a crazy guy" theory just took a pretty big hit in the UK.
I'm not saying I know the magic formula for defeating crazy right-wingers. I wish I did, and I will vigorously back the Dem nominee no matter who it is.
But the theory I've heard many times, that if only we run a real left-winger instead of a "neoliberal corporatist third-wayer" then the "white working class" will flock to us, sure didn't work out for the Brits.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,723 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amishman
(5,559 posts)Brexit in name only, fulfil the letter of the brexit referendum but not the spirit. After the referendum, they should have shifted to softening the blow as much as possible and not defying the vote.
On non brexit, focus on fixing healthcare (sound familiar?)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...since 1776. I don't expect it to become so anytime soon.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Today, we would never seriously consider a socialist for our highest office. We arent the Brits. It would be suicide to do so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)(I get it.. you're forced to argue against something no one has said because media/poor polling/name recognition. Tough old world, eh?)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,595 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)was a smug, arrogant prick. He never stood a chance. The Brits just made thier bed- let em sleep in it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,595 posts)did Labour run him when they knew how unpopular Corbyn was?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Otto Lidenbrock
(581 posts)And the membership grew exponentially under Corbyn because he attracted new, young people into politics. Corbyn faced a leadership challenge in 2016 after his own MPs submitted a no confidence vote in him but he trounced his moderate challenger to keep his job.
The new young people tend to be in London or university towns which are already pro-Labour and most likely pro-EU. Corbyn and Labour lost seats in historically Labour towns when lifelong Labour voters switched to get brexit done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,595 posts)synopsis, OL.
Good luck with Johnson, UK.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)is not liked by the average person on the street. Just a plain Jerk.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NJCher
(35,722 posts)you need a series of similar cases to make a point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ritapria
(1,812 posts)If the Brits hated Progressive Policies , he would have been crushed in 2017 ... He needed to take a stand on Brexit .. He decided not to decide ..He punted ..He lost
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lutherj
(2,496 posts)remainers split between Labour and Lib Dems. Corbyn was never clear about his position regarding Brexit, and many feel that he harbors Brexit sympathies. Moreover, he has faced accusations of anti-semitism whether justified or not. To try to map the outcome of UKs parliamentary election onto whats going on in this country, or to compare Corbyn to Warren or Sanders, is apples and oranges in my opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)cost him the votes of Indians in UK who always voted labour and he lost nearly 35 seats over it.
He should have kept silent on India's stance in Kashmir.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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lutherj
(2,496 posts)🤪
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)Populism bring nothing but chaos and human misery.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
videohead5
(2,181 posts)Is probably more liberal than some Democrats in the U.S..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)Corbyn's problem isn't his ideology. Its the fact that he a shitty person.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandiFan1290
(6,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,610 posts)Neither was President Obama. Obviously.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
videohead5
(2,181 posts)Of the letter Comey sent 11 days before the election. Some Democrats stayed at home and some voted third party. The Russians kept Trump close enough with their propaganda and Comey's letter pushed Trump over the finish line.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RandiFan1290
(6,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,610 posts)"Some people say that if maybe that system was not rigged against me, I would have won the nomination and defeated Donald Trump."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)As he loses yet another primary fight.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,530 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
And given the results of 2016, the Democrats could lose no matter what they do. Nothing is certain....but if the leftward shift doesn't show signs of moderating, the Democrats could be out in the cold for another 4 years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)saying all along.
The electoral majority of mainstream Americans who elected Obama twice averages out moderate liberal, and most of our best primary candidates are, no surprise, running as moderate liberals. Even conservative blue dog Seth Moulton tailored his recent voting record to show moderate liberal ahead of his run for president.
The widespread, toxic portrayal of a Democratic Party swinging far left is a lie intended to defeat us by suppressing mainstream left turnout.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,530 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden