Democratic Primaries

boston bean

(36,223 posts) Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:37 AM Dec 2019

We need a populist message to win.

Leave out the racism/sexism/misogyny/homophobia/anti semitism of course.

A simple message of how we will run government for the people, short on specifics to leave no room for attack. And attacking the shit out of Trumpass and republicans, that a vote for them is against their interest.

And stop eating our own alive, ok?

In November Trump must be soundly defeated by our candidate.

No hard feelings and sitting it out. No purity tests. Just fucking defeat the fascist. We will not come back from another four years of the worst president in US history. Anyone of our candidates is better than them. And I hold myself to this. I truly cannot stand one of our candidates, but will pull the lever for them if they win.

The US as we know it and the world depends on us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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We need a populist message to win. (Original Post) boston bean Dec 2019 OP

I know, you are correct. flying_wahini Dec 2019 #1

Agreed Docreed2003 Dec 2019 #2

If Bernie loses , I am not going to act like a baby , take my marbles, and go home ritapria Dec 2019 #3

Bloomberg supports a lot of Democratic and liberal causes. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #7

Something about our nominee working for the United States of America Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #4

That would be helpful. boston bean Dec 2019 #5

That would be a good thing to keep repeating. "I'm "person" and I will work for the Maraya1969 Dec 2019 #6

Nope. Populism is toxic. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #8

A populist message need not be hateful. Ic can be very unifying. boston bean Dec 2019 #10

No it can't. Populism is based on division. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #11

You may want to read beyond simple slogans. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #12

I have a degree in political science from one of the top departments in the nation. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #13

What we need is a fair and secure vote. Reasonable, thinking people outnumber the cultists. abqtommy Dec 2019 #9

flying_wahini

(6,646 posts)

1. I know, you are correct.

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 10:40 AM

Dec 2019

My Bernie Only family members are already vowing to not vote if Bernie doesn’t take it AGAIN.

I am blue in face talking about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Docreed2003

(16,875 posts)

2. Agreed

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:02 AM

Dec 2019

I think it's going to take all of us to win. We cannot afford to tear apart our own in the name of "vetting" in the hopes that somehow this will lead to the best candidate. Which is why the 2016-type of tearing down is so disheartening to see. We have one and only one job in the current year and that is defeating Donald Trump

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ritapria

(1,812 posts)

3. If Bernie loses , I am not going to act like a baby , take my marbles, and go home

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:11 AM

Dec 2019

Though I have to admit voting for Bloomberg will be a difficult pill to swallow ...I don't feel that will happen so I have nothing to worry about on that score ..……..Trump has to go …...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)

7. Bloomberg supports a lot of Democratic and liberal causes.

Reply to ritapria (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:39 AM

Dec 2019

Trump supports zero.

It wouldn't be a difficult decision. I'd prefer he not be the nominee, and I don't think he will be, but the choice would be easy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Maraya1969

(22,497 posts)

4. Something about our nominee working for the United States of America

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:14 AM

Dec 2019

And not any other country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

boston bean

(36,223 posts)

5. That would be helpful.

Reply to Maraya1969 (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:31 AM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Maraya1969

(22,497 posts)

6. That would be a good thing to keep repeating. "I'm "person" and I will work for the

Reply to boston bean (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 11:35 AM

Dec 2019

United States of America and only the United States of America"

Keep reminding people that Trump does not work for the United States of America.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)

8. Nope. Populism is toxic.

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 12:58 PM

Dec 2019

We need a liberal message to win. And policies based on reason, not on rage.

The American public is longing for a sane alternative. Not a demagogue. Not pitchforks. Not rage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

boston bean

(36,223 posts)

10. A populist message need not be hateful. Ic can be very unifying.

Reply to The Valley Below (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:44 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)

11. No it can't. Populism is based on division.

Reply to boston bean (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:52 PM

Dec 2019

You can't have populism without dividing societies into the good and pure "people" on one side, and the corrupt evil scapegoats who are responsible for all the nation's woes on the other.

Without scapegoats, division, rage, and demagoguery, you can't have "populism." Not possible.

These requirements are baked into the formula.

It is an ideology that stokes anger, rage, and resentment. And is the opposite of "unifying." It is polarizing, by design.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden