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Sanders Retracts Endorsement of Gross Sexist (Original Post) tishaLA Dec 2019 OP
Retracts without denouncing. Noted. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #1
And he retracted it after the gross sexist said tishaLA Dec 2019 #3
:) Being a populist leader means never having to say you're sorry. Hortensis Dec 2019 #4
Exactly! OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #11
Ding! Ding! Ding! Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #31
Well, presumably he didn't spend money to get the feedback Hortensis Dec 2019 #2
Another issue is that he has a history of endorsing tishaLA Dec 2019 #7
Yes, and he has very little tolerance for any groups that put Hortensis Dec 2019 #14
Vetting skills lacking. Hoyt Dec 2019 #5
Hmm, kind of surprising. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #6
And, BS campaign today.. Cha Dec 2019 #10
Really disappointing comment from Khanna tishaLA Dec 2019 #13
Exactly. Cha Dec 2019 #21
Aha, thanks. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #15
Yeah.. "changed".. all the the vile lewd crap that Cha Dec 2019 #22
Disgusting, isn't it? NurseJackie Dec 2019 #33
Good point. BeckyDem Dec 2019 #28
Haha.. but his supporters said it was ok that Cha Dec 2019 #8
Did you SEE what the gross sexist said to the LA Times about tishaLA Dec 2019 #9
I did see something about that.. so many vile Cha Dec 2019 #12
He even made "happy horse" sounds when defending bestiality. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #16
That sounds like a joke to me. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2019 #17
He never said "just kidding" or "just making a point" ... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #18
I'd have to hear it in context. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2019 #19
Still waiting for him to disavow ... but he won't. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #20
Everyone was laughing in the background. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2019 #30
It's that nervous, polite laughter that one does when their boss shows what an ass they are... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #32
omg.. freaking maniac. Cha Dec 2019 #23
It's vomit inducing! He's DISGUSTING! A total PERVERT!! NurseJackie Dec 2019 #24
This is the exact language and "logic" that's put forth when justifying rape. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #25
Yeah, cenk is and BS endorsed him. Cha Dec 2019 #26
His campaign staff is grossly weak. redstatebluegirl Dec 2019 #27
It's the now-familiar story tishaLA Dec 2019 #29
 

OldRed2450

(710 posts)
1. Retracts without denouncing. Noted.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:05 PM
Dec 2019
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tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
3. And he retracted it after the gross sexist said
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:07 PM
Dec 2019

He wasn't going to accept endorsements, so he gave the junior senator from VT cover.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. :) Being a populist leader means never having to say you're sorry.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:07 PM
Dec 2019

You won't catch Trump disappointing his supporters with that kind of weakness either.

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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
11. Exactly!
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:22 PM
Dec 2019

Bernie did not comment on Cenk's misogyny ,he praises him as a "fighter" he shrugs off the retraction as a necessary chore, because grassroot supporters have "concerns." THEY have "concerns" Bernie does not.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Well, presumably he didn't spend money to get the feedback
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:06 PM
Dec 2019

that obviously was very swift and needed little interpretation for Sanders to understand.

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tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
7. Another issue is that he has a history of endorsing
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:10 PM
Dec 2019

gross sexists. Not all of them are as gross and blatant as Cenk, but if you read the comments section of the Jezebel post, the readers name one after the other, whether it's supporting anti-choice candidates, refusing to endorse really progressive women, or supporting other men with issues re: women.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Yes, and he has very little tolerance for any groups that put
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:24 PM
Dec 2019

their particular interests ahead of his big, "I alone can fix it" plans for everyone. Women's rights, minority rights? Those that don't get it are part of the problem.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Vetting skills lacking.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:08 PM
Dec 2019
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TwilightZone

(25,476 posts)
6. Hmm, kind of surprising.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:10 PM
Dec 2019

I didn't expect Sanders would retract the announcement, in part because I can't imagine that they didn't know about Uygur's past, and I just figured that they endorsed him in spite of it because of his overt support of Sanders.

Maybe Sanders' campaign had no clue when they endorsed him.

Not sure which would be worse.

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Cha

(297,586 posts)
10. And, BS campaign today..
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:20 PM
Dec 2019
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tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
13. Really disappointing comment from Khanna
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:23 PM
Dec 2019

He's good on lots of issues and his blithe defense of that surprises and angers me.

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TwilightZone

(25,476 posts)
15. Aha, thanks.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:32 PM
Dec 2019

So, they did know and endorsed him anyway. Interesting.

They also assumed/asserted that he'd changed, but there doesn't appear to be much evidence of that.

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Cha

(297,586 posts)
22. Yeah.. "changed".. all the the vile lewd crap that
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:59 PM
Dec 2019

cenk uttered doesn't just go away.. because "sorry! "

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NurseJackie

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33. Disgusting, isn't it?
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 02:05 AM
Dec 2019
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Cha

(297,586 posts)
8. Haha.. but his supporters said it was ok that
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:13 PM
Dec 2019

"BS endorsed " .. cenk.. a lewd serial misogynist.. who got kicked out of jd for being unfit to serve.



This is a to OldRed.. Thank you!

Too bad #Cenk2020 didn't realize how bad sexism "really" was when he spoke about how "being a whore pays off" and how "seriously skanky"' a woman can be and how "when women cheat they're more guilty than men." Not very "progressive" Cenk. And where are your tax returns?#CA25

Progressive Group Ousts Cenk Uygur Over Past Sexist Writing

The Justice Democrats ousted Cenk Uygur, one of its founding board members and a creator of progressive online network The Young Turks, following the Thursday revelation that Uygur had authored sexist blogposts in the early 2000s.

The left-leaning political organization, which Uygur and others established this year to support progressive primary challenges against Democratic incumbents in Congress, made the announcement Friday. The group also severed ties with David Koller, who co-founded The Young Turks with Uygur and served as Justice Democrats’ treasurer. A 2004 blogpost in which Koller used degrading language about women he and Uygur met on a road-trip surfaced this week as well.

“The words and conduct in Mr. Uygur and Mr. Koller’s posts degrade what it means to be a Justice Democrat,” Justice Democrats executive director Saikat Chakrabarti said in a Friday evening statement announcing the board’s decision to demand Uygur and Koller’s resignations. “We do not feel that Mr. Uygur is fit to lead or participate in an organization that truly believes women’s issues and the issues of black and brown people are all of our issues.”

The Justice Democrats board reached its decision to call for their departures after hearing Uygur’s “side of the story” and consulting with the political candidates the group has endorsed, Chakrabarti said.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/justice-democrats-ousts-cenk-uygur_us_5a3eb4d1e4b025f99e178181


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tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
9. Did you SEE what the gross sexist said to the LA Times about
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:17 PM
Dec 2019

the Harvard men's soccer team that rated women 1-10 based on their fuckability? I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to look it up, but it was something to the effect that rating them wasn't so bad, but the fact that it became public was and that he didn't want to demonize people because of thought crimes.

Ah, be still my progressive heart!

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Cha

(297,586 posts)
12. I did see something about that.. so many vile
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:22 PM
Dec 2019

cenk quotes.. so little time

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NurseJackie

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16. He even made "happy horse" sounds when defending bestiality.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:37 PM
Dec 2019

He even made "happy horse" sounds when defending bestiality. In his sickening worldview, bestiality is okay as long as the horse comes and is satisfied, then he wasn't abused. OMG!

HE MAKES ME SICK!!

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BlueTsunami2018

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17. That sounds like a joke to me.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:49 PM
Dec 2019

I don’t discount the severity of some of the things he’s said but this just sounds like he’s kidding around. Few people actually endorse bestiality.

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NurseJackie

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18. He never said "just kidding" or "just making a point" ...
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:57 PM
Dec 2019

He never said "just kidding" or "just making a point" ... in fact he took it even further AFTER he was called-out on it by the other panelist. This was no joke. At best, it was a look into his brain and his truth and his moral values were revealed while being "couched" as a "joke".

Ha. Ha. What a funny joke. Hysterical.

It's disgusting. He's sick. He needs help.

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BlueTsunami2018

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19. I'd have to hear it in context.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:26 PM
Dec 2019

Is there a clip?

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NurseJackie

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20. Still waiting for him to disavow ... but he won't.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:42 PM
Dec 2019

Still waiting for him to disavow ... but he won't.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287380386#post12

Still waiting for Bernie to show that he has the courage to make difficult decisions and to take a stand against anyone who advocates for sexual abuse of animals. It's sickening.

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BlueTsunami2018

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30. Everyone was laughing in the background.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:54 AM
Dec 2019

The clip gets cut too early to really get the context.

I guess I’ll go find the whole thing.

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NurseJackie

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32. It's that nervous, polite laughter that one does when their boss shows what an ass they are...
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 11:00 AM
Dec 2019

It's that nervous, polite laughter that one does when their boss shows what an ass they are... or when one's drunk relative spouts off something inappropriate at a family dinner. There was no "joke" that everyone was "in on". That nervous broken chuckling was "oh good god please let this be a bad joke" (but it wasn't.)

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Cha

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23. omg.. freaking maniac.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:00 PM
Dec 2019
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NurseJackie

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24. It's vomit inducing! He's DISGUSTING! A total PERVERT!!
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:03 PM
Dec 2019
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NurseJackie

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25. This is the exact language and "logic" that's put forth when justifying rape.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:04 PM
Dec 2019

This is the exact language and "logic" that's put forth when justifying rape. ie: "If she enjoyed it, it wasn't rape." or "Might as well lay back and enjoy it"

He is a sick son of a bitch!

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Cha

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26. Yeah, cenk is and BS endorsed him.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:08 PM
Dec 2019
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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
27. His campaign staff is grossly weak.
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:30 PM
Dec 2019

Or else he is so stubborn he won't listen to anyone. I think that is more likely.

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tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
29. It's the now-familiar story
Fri Dec 13, 2019, 09:06 PM
Dec 2019

Of a politician who believes in rewarding fealty to him including, if bot especially, when it involves misogyny.

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