Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie rescinds Cenk Uygur endorsement after backlash
By JEREMY B. WHITE 12/13/2019 05:01 PM EST Updated 12/13/2019 06:08 PM EST
Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on Friday rescinded his day-old endorsement of a California congressional candidate an extraordinary concession to a furious backlash from local groups over liberal journalist Cenk Uygurs history of homophobic and sexist comments.
Cenk has been a longtime fighter against the corrupt forces in our politics, and he's inspired people all across the country, Sanders said in a statement. However, our movement is bigger than any one person. I hear my grassroots supporters who were frustrated and understand their concerns.
Sanders abrupt reversal represented a misstep for Vermont senator and presidential candidate. The California arm of his campaign was warned about Uygur's past comments and urged the national campaign to stay out of the race, sources told POLITICO.
But Sanders endorsed Uygur regardless. His intervention created turmoil on the ground in Californias 25th Congressional district, a seat that Democrats flipped in 2018 but is now vacant after Democrat Katie Hill resigned amid allegations of sexual impropriety.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,417 posts)Thanks for the thread JoeOtterbein.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The endorsement was refused... it wasn't a "retraction". Cenk gave him "cover".
Bernie didn't take-back something of value or something that was wanted or desired by Cenk. (If it was something that Cenk actually wanted, I guess he would have needed to give him a horse.)
In any case, Cenk's "refusal" of the endorsement make it easy for Bernie. What's needed now is for Bernie to condemn Cenk for his disgusting comments and defense/advocation of bestiality. And I must say, Cenk's "whinnying" horse-impersonation... trying to convey a sexually satisfied horse... was VOMIT INDUCING.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Im endorsing Cenk because I know he will serve ordinary people, not powerful special interests, Sanders said on Thursday, in a statement released with much fanfare by Uygurs campaign. He is a voice that we desperately need in Congress and will be a great representative for CA-25 and the country.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's a direct contradiction to the claims the Cenk and Bernie have previously made.
This is a true test of leadership and decision making... I'm not sure if it's one that Bernie will pass. I hope he does. But I have my doubts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)He wasn't clever enough to delete it. I'm posting a screen shot just in case he realizes how much he appreciated them before he didn't want them:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....endorsements.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)So... in other words... Cenk is a LIAR... in addition to being an advocate/defender of bestiality.
Looks like they've really screwed-the-pooch on this one (pardon the intentional pun.)
Sick! Perverted. Vomit-inducing!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,893 posts)All that and a beautiful photo OP posted below yours.
Hmmm~
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)The BS campaign has screwed-the-pooch (so to speak) and pardon the intentional pun.
Here's the thing. Bernie had (still has, I suppose) the opportunity to make the right decision. It's a test of leadership and the ability to do the right thing and set aside all other pressures. There is really only ONE thing to do, and he still hasn't done it. That doesn't speak very well about what kind of leader he'd be.
I hope he will pass this test, but every indication is that he won't.
Cenk is disgusting. A misogynist and apparently he's an advocate/defender of bestiality. That's just sick! Perverted. Twisted. Just the sight of Cenk makes me wont to vomit!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,629 posts)with that bunch. Sirota deleted over 20,000 tweets when the jill stein pusher joined the BS campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)and not endorse him in the first place.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,893 posts)CYD endorsed Bernie. If they take that back?????!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)I suspect this will be buried in the background noise before long, especially with impeachment at the forefront at the moment.
If Sanders was going to make a questionable move like this, he probably picked a good time to do so. Plus, to his campaign's credit, they didn't double down on the dumb and make it worse. As I noted in another response, I'm actually kind of surprised that they recognized it for what it was and bailed out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,893 posts)He doubled down. Someone posted the tweet here at DU.
The public may forget, will the CYD forget?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
efhmc
(14,732 posts)him as possible.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)He's has not done the "right thing" ... he's taken the easy way out. The endorsement was refused, it wasn't a retraction. Cenk gave him "cover".
Bernie didn't take-back something of value or something that was wanted or desired by Cenk. (If it was something that Cenk actually wanted, I guess he should have given him a horse.)
In any case, Cenk's "refusal" of the endorsement make it easy for Bernie. What's needed now is for Bernie to condemn Cenk for his disgusting comments and defense/advocation of bestiality. That will be a true test of conviction and leadership. I hope Bernie passes this test. But... we're still waiting for him to do the right thing.
And I must say, Cenk's "whinnying" horse-impersonation... trying to convey a sexually satisfied horse... was VOMIT INDUCING.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wawannabe
(5,678 posts)From the op: The California arm of his campaign was warned about Uygur's past comments and urged the national campaign to stay out of the race, sources told POLITICO.
But Sanders endorsed Uygur regardless. His intervention created turmoil on the ground in Californias 25th Congressional district, a seat that Democrats flipped in 2018 but is now vacant after Democrat Katie Hill resigned amid allegations of sexual impropriety.
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Bernie was warned. Did it any way. Only retracted after groundswell of distaste.
He has done the right thing and the only thing that he could in the face of pressure now - but most certainly not always!
And in the case of Cenk should never have given the endorsement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)CA Democrats warned the campaign and he ignored them. I doubt the campaign had warning with Gordon, for example, and that was just a huge vetting failure
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Covering your ass after an unforced error isn't doing the right thing, it's damage control.
Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beastie boy
(9,421 posts)He damaged himself unnecessarily.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He may have guessed that his supporters would blindly back Cenk after Bernie endorsed. One person right here on DU implied that he or she would definitely vote for Cenk because Bernie endorsed. But it looks like Bernie ran into a firestorm from his California supporters and started trying to find a way to undo the damage. The endorsement is going to stick with him and other people in the democratic primary should raise the issue next week during the debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
efhmc
(14,732 posts)He uses the party for his own purposes and when it helps him but he is not a Democrat. "The California arm of his campaign was warned about Uygur's past comments and urged the national campaign to stay out of the race, sources told POLITICO."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wawannabe
(5,678 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)There isn't much evidence that Uygur has changed, his occasional apology notwithstanding.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,372 posts)a hire or endorsement because easily found information suddenly came to his attention.
This is not a good look.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)From Time Magazine:
https://time.com/5749887/why-bernie-sanders-walked-back-his-endorsement-of-cenk-uygur/
He actually REQUESTED the endorsement!!!! OOPS!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)So... in other words... Cenk is a LIAR... in addition to being an advocate/defender of bestiality.
Looks like they've really screwed-the-pooch on this one (pardon the intentional pun.)
Sick! Perverted. Vomit-inducing!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,893 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Four times begins to suggest a strategy.
This endorsement removes all doubt, and impugns his followers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)So... in other words... Cenk is a LIAR... in addition to being an advocate/defender of bestiality.
Looks like they've really screwed-the-pooch on this one (pardon the intentional pun.)
Sick! Perverted. Vomit-inducing!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NNadir
(33,542 posts)...the "right thing" for both of them would not to enter into Democratic primaries, no?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,610 posts)and challenge every single one of them." Infiltrate and replace.
According to them, the only reason we can't get progressive legislation passed is money in politics. Replace the corrupt "centrist establishment" Democrats with pure uncorrupted Justice Democrat-supported progressives and everything will be fine. Republicans are never mentioned. Good plan!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Galraedia
(5,027 posts)Obviously, the genes of women are flawed...They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully. ~ Cenk Uygur in a 1999 post lamenting the inadequate amount of sex he was having while living in Miami, Florida.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)This is not the first time he has had to reverse something.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)It's still not too late for some aspiring candidate to plagerize again.
edit: oK, maybe not plagerized, but copied. That's a compliment
Plagerisim is different and often leads to punishment. And while still a compliment, is pretty lazy really. Or just bad vetting, if, say, you were talking about campaign speeches.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)I'm wondering why are so many doing that? Whatever, it's very phony.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
You are saying he was plagiarized? For what? Calling the Dem Party platform his own and Dems stole it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Or, nevermind!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)And whataboutism isn't a terribly compelling argument.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)My kids are still around enough. We always break up laughing when someone breaks into the 'blameshifter, blameshifter' taunt. I am seriously amused by all this.
But its only fun if 2 can play! LOL
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)something. This time it was an endorsement. Before that, it was hiring someone without vetting and then having to fire that person before he even did anything.
Why would we talk about plagiarism. I don't think Senator Sanders has been accused of that. I have no idea what plagiarism you're talking about.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)"When Biden was confronted on multiple occasions he claimed received a videotape of the speech and permission from Denis Healey of the British Labor Party. When Healeys office made it clear the story wasnt true Biden reluctantly acknowledged that he had lied on both counts. Eventually Biden even admitted the claims he made regarding his wifes attendance at college were also untrue. The New York Times continued to review tape of Bidens previous speeches and determined that Biden regularly lifted speeches from John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and Hubert Humphrey."
I think the speech plagerized from the Healey speech was the reason he dropped out the first time? or was the second?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)showing the clip of Uygur doing horse sounds, over and over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,311 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,629 posts)so well, either.
Mahalo, lapucelle
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)He acts no better than he should.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PJMcK
(22,048 posts)Cenk has proven himself to be a very progressive thinker.
Let the past go.
Democratic candidates need a to win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)His personal baggage and difficult personality and dubious positions in the past are all reasons not to support him as a candidate, but as a pundit he often makes wise policy statements. I tuned him out years ago because I couldn't stand him, and it was infuriating to me because otherwise he voices many of the same perspectives I have about politics.
He's an infuriating and insufficient person and does not have the temperament for congressional office.
My hope for him always is that he overcomes his repulsive arrogance and actually addresses his errors from the past rather than sweeping them under the rug or doing blanket disclaimers about past statements.
Still, my heart sank when I heard that he was going to run for this seat. I don't think he is congressional material.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,311 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)But then he listened to his friends and supporters who told him it was a mistake and he reversed course. I'm not looking for the perfect candidate who never makes mistakes. I'm looking for someone like Bernie who has been a good solid and reliable progressive all his life.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lexee
(377 posts)Women just we not a strong enough consideration for Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RandySF
(59,206 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)What does that say about his trust or respect of his own staff's expertise and knowlege if they disagree with him?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)We have had enough of that charlatan in the White House who is never wrong and always perfect. We need a president like Bernie who listens and who is willing to change and/or reverse policies as the need arises. He got a bit ahead of himself with that endorsement out of loyalty to a long-time supporter. But he listened to his friends and supporters who told him it was a mistake and he reversed himself. Good for you Bernie. I will be supporting you in the upcoming Nevada caucuses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OldRed2450
(710 posts)Loyalty trumps all? Sexism and bigotry do not matter as long as there is loyalty? So it's not a problem that he rescinded the endorsement only because other people had an issue with it? The things Cenk said as recently as 2013 and 2016 were over the top vile. I mean, really over top nasty, vulgar and vile. I know he apologized but he lied in his apology and said it happened when he was a republican trying to minimize the severity of the comments. Also, he doesn't seem remorseful since yesterday he blamed democrats and the media for the foulness that came out of his own mouth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)Sanders, the backlash is so loud because its coming from the majority, not your grassroots.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided