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applegrove

(118,786 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 04:40 PM Dec 2019

Campaigns Overwhelmed by Disinformation (It is a Gish Gallop on a giant scale)

https://politicalwire.com/2019/12/16/campaigns-overwhelmed-by-disinformation/

Campaigns Overwhelmed by Disinformation

December 16, 2019 at 12:02 pm EST By Taegan Goddard64 Comments

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New York Times: “Less than a year before the 2020 election, false political information is moving furiously online. Facebook users shared the top 100 false political stories over 2.3 million times in the United States in the first 10 months of this year, according to Avaaz, a global human rights organization.”

“The examples are numerous: A hoax version of the Green New Deal legislation went viral online. Millions of people saw unsubstantiated rumors about the relationship between Ukraine and the family of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. A canard about the ties between a Ukrainian oil company and a son of Senator Mitt Romney, the Utah Republican, spread widely, too.”

“Still, few politicians or their staffs are prepared to quickly notice and combat incorrect stories about them… Several of the researchers said they were surprised by how little outreach they had received from politicians.”

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GISH GALLOP wikipedia

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Technique and counter measuresEdit

During a Gish gallop, a debater confronts an opponent with a rapid series of many specious arguments, half-truths, and misrepresentations in a short space of time, which makes it impossible for the opponent to refute all of them within the format of a formal debate.[3][4] In practice, each point raised by the "Gish galloper" takes considerably more time to refute or fact-check than it did to state in the first place.[5] The technique wastes an opponent's time and may cast doubt on the opponent's debating ability for an audience unfamiliar with the technique, especially if no independent fact-checking is involved[6] or if the audience has limited knowledge of the topics.

Generally, it is more difficult to use the Gish gallop in a structured debate than in a free-form one.[7] If a debater is familiar with an opponent who is known to use the Gish gallop, the technique may be countered by pre-empting and refuting the opponent's commonly used arguments first, before the opponent has an opportunity to launch into a Gish gallop.[8]

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

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Campaigns Overwhelmed by Disinformation (It is a Gish Gallop on a giant scale) (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2019 OP
"The answer to bad speech is more speech" jberryhill Dec 2019 #1
FDR had a good pre-emptive way of explaining what his political enemies applegrove Dec 2019 #2
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #3
We saw that in Russian interference in 2016. ehrnst Dec 2019 #4
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. "The answer to bad speech is more speech"
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 05:05 PM
Dec 2019

The so-called “counterspeech doctrine” is due for a re-examination.
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applegrove

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2. FDR had a good pre-emptive way of explaining what his political enemies
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 05:58 PM
Dec 2019

were going to do I think. I'm trying to think of the exact quote but I can't remember right now. Basically he explained the big picture of what the campaign was going to be like.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
4. We saw that in Russian interference in 2016.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 07:31 PM
Dec 2019

Some of us were far more aware of it than others were.

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