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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:10 AM Dec 2019

Gabbard has sent goons after people who question her cult involvement

She grew up in the science of identity cult, attended cult schools, associates only with members of the cult, and even her so-called campaign is mostly just an operation that pours money back into the cult.

A woman in Hawaii who began investigating the leaks found herself targeted by a vicious team of enforcers.

This is absolutely not someone that the Democratic party should run for president. Forget about her vote on impeachment. Gabbard is not who she claims to be.

https://twitter.com/realchrissyg?s=20

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Gabbard has sent goons after people who question her cult involvement (Original Post) bluedye33139 Dec 2019 OP
This story is disturbing Gothmog Dec 2019 #1
Cooper is also affiliated with the Kremlin bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #3
That is so bizarre PatSeg Dec 2019 #23
Some folks determine qualification by LOYALTY ONLY OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #2
She gets weirder everyday underpants Dec 2019 #4
I don't think she works for the Kremlin myself bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #6
Yes, that's how I see it PatSeg Dec 2019 #24
Holy Shit, I had no idea she was involved in something like that. njhoneybadger Dec 2019 #5
Deeply involved. Blue_true Dec 2019 #31
Be careful, there's people out in force who are VERY CONCERNED about speaking ill of her nt sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #7
Today they seem to have slithered back under the rock bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #8
Many of us bear the scars for nothing more than mildly critical comments. hlthe2b Dec 2019 #10
Because of my history with ISKCON, I know how to grapple with the cult bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #14
Good for you!!! PatSeg Dec 2019 #25
Yeah, times have really changed from that.. Cha Dec 2019 #28
+1,000 hlthe2b Dec 2019 #9
Well, this is alarming. Check out this Venn diagram: catbyte Dec 2019 #11
Nice diagram. I did not know any of this. PatrickforO Dec 2019 #20
When that 3:00 AM call comes in, Tulsi will answer 'present'. keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #12
I hear people posit that she's planning on running as a third party candidate. ehrnst Dec 2019 #13
Science of Identity cult is an off shoot of Hare Krishna Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #15
ISKCON repudiated Chris Butler bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #19
WE have many good options. In my need to prioritize the list some won't make my prioritized ones. usaf-vet Dec 2019 #16
Nope, won't forget about her impeachment treachery. lark Dec 2019 #17
Bookmarking this whole thread. calimary Dec 2019 #18
what cult is it that she is in? gopiscrap Dec 2019 #21
Science of identity bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #22
I'm sure all this is not widely known! colorado_ufo Dec 2019 #26
Guess who defends Tulsi OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #27
Like endorsing cenk.. not a good look. Cha Dec 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #30
 

Gothmog

(145,501 posts)
1. This story is disturbing
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:12 AM
Dec 2019
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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
3. Cooper is also affiliated with the Kremlin
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:21 AM
Dec 2019

And has been implicated in Russian criminal activity in the United States.

It's the weirdest and most disturbing candidacy I've ever seen.

My ears perked up because she funneled half a million dollars to a gentleman who lives in a cabin in rural Washington state, not far from my home, and who appears not to have done any work for that half million dollars. He grew up in the science of identity cult. Money laundering is the official business of the cult.
https://culteducation.com/group/1298-science-of-identity/35033-why-is-tulsi-gabbard-paying-this-obscure-consultant-big-bucks.html

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PatSeg

(47,578 posts)
23. That is so bizarre
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:11 PM
Dec 2019

I'm been suspicious of her for a long time, but it appears she is far worse than I'd imagined. If we ever learn the entire story, I'm sure it will be a real shocker.

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OldRed2450

(710 posts)
2. Some folks determine qualification by LOYALTY ONLY
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:13 AM
Dec 2019

If she is loyal to a certain group all is excused and facts be damned. It happens often with this group.

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underpants

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4. She gets weirder everyday
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:37 AM
Dec 2019

I’ve learned a lot about her on DU. Clearly she’s an operative

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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
6. I don't think she works for the Kremlin myself
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:40 AM
Dec 2019

But I think that because her business is money, she realizes that the support from the bots will increase her bottom line. That's my theory, but then again, I come at her from a background in new religious movements AKA cults.

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PatSeg

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24. Yes, that's how I see it
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:14 PM
Dec 2019

There isn't necessarily a direct connection to Russia, but that she will do whatever reaps the most benefits in the long run. If this was a movie, it would probably be too far-fetched to be taken seriously. What else has this cult done?

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njhoneybadger

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5. Holy Shit, I had no idea she was involved in something like that.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:39 AM
Dec 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. Deeply involved.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:01 PM
Dec 2019

Worships the socalled leader of the cult, a guy that has mixed Krishna and Christianity into an un-recognizable mishmash of bullshit. Someone posted one of the leader's sermons here, I listened for a few minutes and my reactions moved from eye-rolling derision to mouth-dropping surprise that anyone would believe that guy's bullshit.

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sweetloukillbot

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7. Be careful, there's people out in force who are VERY CONCERNED about speaking ill of her nt
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:40 AM
Dec 2019
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bluedye33139

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8. Today they seem to have slithered back under the rock
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 09:54 AM
Dec 2019
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hlthe2b

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10. Many of us bear the scars for nothing more than mildly critical comments.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:40 AM
Dec 2019
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bluedye33139

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14. Because of my history with ISKCON, I know how to grapple with the cult
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:52 AM
Dec 2019

The Chris Butler people, who worship him, pretend that they are Hindu and pretend that their group was affiliated with the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.

The only thing that Chris Butler took from the Hare Krishnas was the doctrine of what it means to be a bona fide guru. He took the concept and applied it to himself and decreed that he himself was the path to God and was God. Worship of Chris Butler will lead to immortality.

Children who were raised in the cult never celebrated Hindu holidays, and they never read the Vedas or any Vedic doctrine.

The first thing they usually attack people with is an accusation of being anti-hindu. I tend to mop the floor with their ignorance, as they are not prepared to speak to someone who actually understands vaishnava beliefs.

Also, I'm a little combative.

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Cha

(297,574 posts)
28. Yeah, times have really changed from that..
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:40 PM
Dec 2019

Thank goodness

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catbyte

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11. Well, this is alarming. Check out this Venn diagram:
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:48 AM
Dec 2019
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PatrickforO

(14,587 posts)
20. Nice diagram. I did not know any of this.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:02 AM
Dec 2019

No wonder Gabbard seems so 'off.' Being in a cult will do that to you.

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keithbvadu2

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12. When that 3:00 AM call comes in, Tulsi will answer 'present'.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:50 AM
Dec 2019

When that 3:00 AM call comes in, Tulsi will answer 'present'.

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ehrnst

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13. I hear people posit that she's planning on running as a third party candidate.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:51 AM
Dec 2019

Meanwhile certain "Bernie or Bust" discussion boards which previously touted "Sanders/Gabbard 2020" have removed her photo.

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Farmer-Rick

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15. Science of Identity cult is an off shoot of Hare Krishna
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:55 AM
Dec 2019

Founded by Chris Butler who now has a very Guru like name I can't even pronounce.

Seems very much like all the other very weird religions...more isolation is involved in this one though.

Just remember there is absolutely no valid evidence for a god of any kind and yet we give these crazy people tax exemptions. That's why we have so many cults...they make money off religion.

If I claim to see magical pink blobs that control the world, would you give me tax exemption too?

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bluedye33139

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19. ISKCON repudiated Chris Butler
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:02 AM
Dec 2019

The only piece he took from them was the belief that a bona fide guru can overcome karma for his followers. They blanket reject every belief of the international society for Krishna consciousness, and people raised in the cult have reported that they never read the Vedas or gitas or engaged in any Hindu holiday observance. They had Christmas trees, and they listened to Chris Butler's sermons on random topics.

I've never joined them because I do not like religious fundamentalism. Last year, for instance, I was reading one of Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada's books and loving it, and then I happened to read an interview with a ISKCON cleric decreeing that it was blasphemy to say that the lunar eclipse was a physical phenomenon caused by the shadow of the earth. Rather, we are required to believe that a demon has eaten the moon temporarily. Literally. And that kind of fundamentalism never makes me happy.

ISKCON has a mixed history. Lots of wonderful, wonderful spiritual seekers. Lots of authoritarian abuse.

Edit: also the doctrine that they cannot associate with people who are not members.

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usaf-vet

(6,205 posts)
16. WE have many good options. In my need to prioritize the list some won't make my prioritized ones.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:58 AM
Dec 2019

That is all I will say about one who does make my prioritized ones.

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lark

(23,155 posts)
17. Nope, won't forget about her impeachment treachery.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:59 AM
Dec 2019

Anyone beloved of RT and PUtin and Assad is not our friend or a friend of democracy in general.

That she's got other issues, a cult, is not surprising based on what we've seen from her.

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calimary

(81,443 posts)
18. Bookmarking this whole thread.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:59 AM
Dec 2019

I smelled a rat way early but didn’t exactly know why.

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gopiscrap

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21. what cult is it that she is in?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:51 AM
Dec 2019
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colorado_ufo

(5,737 posts)
26. I'm sure all this is not widely known!
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 12:17 PM
Dec 2019

People need to know this background and be fully informed.

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Cha

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29. Like endorsing cenk.. not a good look.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:42 PM
Dec 2019
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