Democratic Primaries

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts) Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:46 PM Dec 2019

After Telling Moderator Climate Question 'Misses the Mark,' Sanders Says Real Issue

Is Will We 'Save the Planet for Our Children and Grandchildren'

Sen. Bernie Sanders received widespread applause during Thursday night's Democratic Party presidential debate when he challenged what he considered a flimsy question on the issue of the climate crisis and then offered a far-reaching critique about a global system in which trillions are spent on war and destruction but similar investments are not made to address the emergency of global heating.

After Tim Alberta, Politico's chief political correspondent and one of the debate moderators, asked candidates if they would support federal funding to relocate communities threatened by rising sea levels and flooding rivers, Sanders took issue with the premise of the question.

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"It is not an issue of relocating people from towns," Sanders continued. "The issue now is whether we save the planet for our children and grandchildren. The issue, as you should know, what the scientists are telling us, is that they have underestimated the threat and severity of climate change. We're talking about the Paris Agreement—that's fine—it ain't enough."

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"The United States has got to lead the world, and maybe—just maybe—instead of spending $1.8 trillion a year, globally, on weapons of destruction," he continued, "maybe an American president (ie. Bernie Sanders) can lead the world. Instead of spending money to kill eachother, maybe we pool our resources and fight our common enemy which is climate change."

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https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/19/after-telling-moderator-climate-question-misses-mark-sanders-says-real-issue-will-we

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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After Telling Moderator Climate Question 'Misses the Mark,' Sanders Says Real Issue (Original Post) Uncle Joe Dec 2019 OP

Bernie is the only candidate tonight who spoke with passion, clarity and most of all... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #1

you've got to love him... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #3

Well. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #2

Yep .. he is against military spending except the F-35 NYMinute Dec 2019 #4

Or Biden on the relief of student debt, that he helped entrench crazytown Dec 2019 #6

Biden is not railing against the banks though NYMinute Dec 2019 #7

Biden is speaking out against student debt, crazytown Dec 2019 #10

Different issues nt NYMinute Dec 2019 #11

You are correct. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #12

"Vermont Air National Guard First To Try F-35 Jets" crazytown Dec 2019 #5

Then why rail against defense spending? NYMinute Dec 2019 #8

Why rail against student debt? crazytown Dec 2019 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Dec 2019 #13

The question was very realistic... why wouldn't he answer? NurseJackie Dec 2019 #14

and don't forget... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #15

Bravo for Bernie! Duppers Dec 2019 #16

Duppers! Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #17

🤗 Duppers Dec 2019 #18

I hear you Duppers, Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #19

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)

1. Bernie is the only candidate tonight who spoke with passion, clarity and most of all...

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:50 PM

Dec 2019

...URGENCY on climate change (or what we old Joes once knew as "pollution.&quot

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

myohmy2

(3,168 posts)

3. you've got to love him...

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:49 AM

Dec 2019

...the man is dead-pan serious and believes every word he is saying...

...he sees a bright future for us if we only allow him to take us there...

...I think we will...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)

2. Well.

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:41 AM

Dec 2019

From yor OP:

"The United States has got to lead the world, and maybe—just maybe—instead of spending $1.8 trillion a year, globally, on weapons of destruction," he continued, "maybe an American president (ie. Bernie Sanders) can lead the world. Instead of spending money to kill eachother, maybe we pool our resources and fight our common enemy which is climate change."

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Vermont houses weapons of mass destruction and have for years. Sanders himself has given them his blessing. These new ones have nuclear capabilities.

Vermont Air National Guard First To Try F-35 Jets: 2 Of 20 Jets Delivered

https://www.ibtimes.com/vermont-air-national-guard-first-try-f-35-jets-2-20-jets-delivered-2882244

I am sorry. He can't have it both ways. How much do we spend on the F-35's? These should be first to go.

There is also the impact of sound decibels to the community. This is not an environmental impact, yet a huge health concern to Vermont's community. Hearing and mental heath should be a huge concern.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)

4. Yep .. he is against military spending except the F-35

Reply to sheshe2 (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:52 AM

Dec 2019

Classic definition of hypocracy

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

6. Or Biden on the relief of student debt, that he helped entrench

Reply to NYMinute (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:59 AM

Dec 2019

in the Bankruptcy Act - representing constituents is not hypocrisy, it's politics.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)

7. Biden is not railing against the banks though

Reply to crazytown (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:01 AM

Dec 2019

like Sanders is doing against military spending.

Biden is not a hypocrite.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

10. Biden is speaking out against student debt,

Reply to NYMinute (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:06 AM

Dec 2019

you know, the debt banks own, that he helped protect. Biden is not a hypocrite, he's a politician like everyone else on the stage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)

11. Different issues nt

Reply to crazytown (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:07 AM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)

12. You are correct.

Reply to NYMinute (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:09 AM

Dec 2019

Curious what the environmental damage the F-35 causes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

5. "Vermont Air National Guard First To Try F-35 Jets"

Reply to sheshe2 (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:55 AM

Dec 2019

Sanders may be sanctimonious, but he is still a politician representing the State of Vermont, in the same way Biden represented Delaware.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)

8. Then why rail against defense spending?

Reply to crazytown (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:02 AM

Dec 2019

On cannot have it both ways.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

crazytown

(7,277 posts)

9. Why rail against student debt?

Reply to NYMinute (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:03 AM

Dec 2019

Same diff.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)

14. The question was very realistic... why wouldn't he answer?

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:35 AM

Dec 2019

I've seen this trick (tactic) used often. Rather than answering the legitimate question that was asked, he ignored it or side-stepped it and instead "asked himself" the question that he would have preferred to be asked rather than the one he was unprepared for.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

myohmy2

(3,168 posts)

15. and don't forget...

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 03:32 AM

Dec 2019

...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Duppers

(28,125 posts)

16. Bravo for Bernie!

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 05:13 PM

Dec 2019

K&R

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)

17. Duppers!

Reply to Duppers (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 05:15 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

Duppers

(28,125 posts)

18. 🤗

Reply to Uncle Joe (Reply #17)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 05:27 PM

Dec 2019

Uncle Joe, you know my heart's still with Bernie & I'd love to see a Bernie/ Klobuchar ticket. But I feel there's too much anti-socialistic attitude in the country (when folks don't realize how much socialism they use) that'd keep Bernie from winning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)

19. I hear you Duppers,

Reply to Duppers (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 05:34 PM

Dec 2019

I don't agree but I understand where you're coming from.

I'm of the firm belief that Bernie is and will continue to overcome that long-established mind-set which over the decades has only served the interests of the 1% while shortchanging the American People.

Peace to you.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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