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Donkees

(31,421 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 09:27 PM Dec 2019

🔥 Bernie and AOC Rally in Las Vegas



BERNIE AND AOC IN LAS VEGAS: We're the strongest campaign to defeat Trump because we believe in bringing people together, not dividing them up. Join me, Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz, DJ Cassidy and UFC fighter Kevin Lee and more in Las Vegas:
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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🔥 Bernie and AOC Rally in Las Vegas (Original Post) Donkees Dec 2019 OP
My Congressperson is home in our district meeting with his constituents, not off in warm weather.... George II Dec 2019 #1
I hope you are watching AOC at this minute! nt JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #13
Why? George II Dec 2019 #17
Why not? JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #19
Rock on Joe!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #59
Two of our strongest Leaders! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #2
Huh? What are either of them leading? George II Dec 2019 #3
My Mom used to say, "he who laughs last... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #4
That didn't answer the question. What are either of them leading, particularly.... George II Dec 2019 #20
Hmmmm, dware Dec 2019 #34
Precisely. An inconvenient truth. George II Dec 2019 #37
And 16 hours later... None of those who spend a whole Hortensis Dec 2019 #50
The BS-AOC clamorers react here with a deafening . . . silence . . . empedocles Dec 2019 #55
They, along with Liz, are leading with a progressive view for the future. Magoo48 Dec 2019 #56
Your header made me wonder: whose leaders are they? But then you were good enough to elaborate: beastie boy Dec 2019 #10
Or, as Mom would also say... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #12
What does that make the majority of Democrats who do not align with the progressive wing? Marengo Dec 2019 #35
Leading 15% isn't leading anything. I'm more influential and more of a leader.... George II Dec 2019 #21
Demagoguery Skidmore Dec 2019 #41
Why is being a member of the Democratic Party a bad thing? Gothmog Dec 2019 #43
Wondered the same thing myself. Skidmore Dec 2019 #44
No matter how 'bad' the Democratic Party may be, it'll apparently never be "bad" enough to refuse ehrnst Dec 2019 #46
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2019 #45
Demagoguery. That's what some don't recognize and Hortensis Dec 2019 #49
I like being a member of the Democratic Party Gothmog Dec 2019 #62
Damn straight!! Bernie & AOC are stronger together, like Bernie & Elizabeth... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #60
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #5
Kevin Lee; professional fighter is up. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #6
Admitted to making mistakes in his life including not voting in 2016 vowed to not repeat Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #7
So he's surrounded himself with people who have admitted they voted for Jill Stein or not voted. Hm. George II Dec 2019 #22
Why wouldn't any candidate running for President not want their votes? Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #24
Sure, he gets them in the primary, then they turn around and vote for a third-party candidate or... George II Dec 2019 #25
The cream of the crop, apparently. Marengo Dec 2019 #36
You may have misspelled "crop". At least from where I sit. justhanginon Dec 2019 #51
Mayor Cruz is up talking about hurricane in Puerto Rico and Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #8
... Donkees Dec 2019 #9
Donkees for the... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #29
AOC is up! Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #11
AOC kicking ass!! Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #14
I hear ya Uncle Joe... AOC rocks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #61
AOC is a great leader!!! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #15
What is she leading? George II Dec 2019 #23
When I typed that she was speaking to about 2000 humans. ntn JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #27
So again, what is she "leading"? George II Dec 2019 #28
Humans. ntn JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #30
How many? And in what capacity? George II Dec 2019 #31
Ha! You are correct! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #32
It IS fun to watch a movement catching fire... feel the Bern baby!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #53
Yes it is, and it will be a pleasure watching Joseph Biden Jr. being sworn in on Jan 20, 2021... George II Dec 2019 #57
I lead humans too, 9 to be precise. Could you spare me some exclamation points? I don't... Marengo Dec 2019 #38
Being a Senator or Congresswoman is much more commendable than captain of a baseball team. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #39
Sigh, if only my work were that interesting and I hold no hope of being raised to the peerage. Marengo Dec 2019 #40
Odd comment TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #42
Photo: Sanders and @AOC are answering questions on Instagram Live ahead of tonight's Vegas rally Donkees Dec 2019 #16
@AOC says Sanders' policies are challenged not because they will lose elections, ... Donkees Dec 2019 #18
''I'd say this Vegas group is one of @BernieSanders' loudest and most energized of the year.'' Donkees Dec 2019 #26
Dayummmm... thanks for that one Donkees!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #54
+1 myohmy2 Dec 2019 #33
Hillary Clinton (the "Establishment Democrat") won NV in 2016; I don;'t think AOC will help... brooklynite Dec 2019 #47
Bernie arrived in Washington a few years murielm99 Dec 2019 #52
This is a long-term struggle. David__77 Dec 2019 #48
I'm sorry Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #58
like them both booley Dec 2019 #63
AOC: "For anyone who accuses us of purity tests -- it's called having values. It's betsuni Dec 2019 #64
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. My Congressperson is home in our district meeting with his constituents, not off in warm weather....
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 09:36 PM
Dec 2019

....campaigning for someone else. Then, after he meets with them, he'll spend his Christmas at home with his family and friends.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
13. I hope you are watching AOC at this minute! nt
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:35 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
19. Why not?
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:55 PM
Dec 2019

She is a rock star!!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
59. Rock on Joe!!
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 11:05 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
2. Two of our strongest Leaders!
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 09:43 PM
Dec 2019

Bernie and AOC are the past, present and future of the Progressive Wing of the Democratic Wing, of the Democratic Party!

Leading the only way to save the future! The Green New Deal!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. Huh? What are either of them leading?
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 09:55 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
4. My Mom used to say, "he who laughs last...
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:00 PM
Dec 2019

...lives the longest!"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. That didn't answer the question. What are either of them leading, particularly....
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:58 PM
Dec 2019

....in their legislative positions.

Do you realize that this week in the House AOC voted six or seven times with the republicans and against the Democrats? And Sanders hasn't voted a single time since July, about six months ago.

So I ask again, what are either of them leading?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dware

(12,404 posts)
34. Hmmmm,
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:42 PM
Dec 2019

What's that sound I hear?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
37. Precisely. An inconvenient truth.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:41 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. And 16 hours later... None of those who spend a whole
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 03:23 AM
Dec 2019

lot of time mining the web for items to post here in support of their leaders have spent a just few moments checking Sanders' or AOC's voting behaviors, or apparently didn't find a single item they could brag on. Not even with this invitation.

Unfortunate. I need one of Sanders' ardent followers, who certainly should understand his goals and motivations, to explain why Sanders is supporting Russia in Putin's call to replace NATO with an alliance that includes Russia and focuses on a pissant Middle East terrorist organization. It perplexes me that he would do this even as Russia attacks the United States and invades surrounding nations and even as European nations are forced to re-arm against Russia.

Anyone? Otterbein, Hassin, Donkees, anyone?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
55. The BS-AOC clamorers react here with a deafening . . . silence . . .
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 08:26 AM
Dec 2019

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Magoo48

(4,717 posts)
56. They, along with Liz, are leading with a progressive view for the future.
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 09:26 AM
Dec 2019

This progressive view recognizes our universal climate catastrophe, climate injustice, wealth inequality, and the corporate roll in all that plagues our sick commodify, extract, and profit economy. This is what they have the courage to lead in. Sitting back and spinning wondrous fairy tales of a future where greed driven corporate giants magically realize the error of their ways and gladly join in to protect our habitat is a naive skip down the garden path, not leading.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
10. Your header made me wonder: whose leaders are they? But then you were good enough to elaborate:
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:24 PM
Dec 2019

"the Progressive Wing of the Democratic Wing, of the Democratic Party! "

...About 15% or so of the Democrats?

I appreciate you putting things in perspective.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
12. Or, as Mom would also say...
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:30 PM
Dec 2019

..."the cream of the crop"!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
35. What does that make the majority of Democrats who do not align with the progressive wing?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:35 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. Leading 15% isn't leading anything. I'm more influential and more of a leader....
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:03 PM
Dec 2019

....in my community government.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
41. Demagoguery
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:00 PM
Dec 2019

is what got Republicans the Tea Party. The past has been a large part of their overreach. Beware the cliff that zealotry leads to. Sanders also taps a past that never was to promise an unrealistic future.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,323 posts)
43. Why is being a member of the Democratic Party a bad thing?
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:44 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
44. Wondered the same thing myself.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:59 PM
Dec 2019

I guess if Sanders says so it is enough for some. Contrarians tend to not solve problems. In my thinking, it's kind of like Trump hooking up with the Tea Party which was more interested in destruction. Nothing constructive has arisen from chaos.We need a restoration of our foundations, which have been systemically dismantled. You can't move forward without restoring basic rights of all types.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
46. No matter how 'bad' the Democratic Party may be, it'll apparently never be "bad" enough to refuse
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 02:59 PM
Dec 2019

those big $$$$$$ and the infrastructure that the Democratic Party has earned and built when it comes time for his Senate and POTUS runs.

So there's that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. Demagoguery. That's what some don't recognize and
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 03:13 AM
Dec 2019

is appallingly clear to others. Some accept the promises, the claims made to seek power, without questioning motive or ability. As if they were truths instead of a sales pitch for followers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,323 posts)
62. I like being a member of the Democratic Party
Wed Dec 25, 2019, 03:48 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
60. Damn straight!! Bernie & AOC are stronger together, like Bernie & Elizabeth...
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 11:09 AM
Dec 2019

Indeed, we're ALL stronger together... let's unite behind the strongest candidate to beat the PEE-resident in 2020...


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
5. Kicked and recommended.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:09 PM
Dec 2019

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
6. Kevin Lee; professional fighter is up.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:13 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
7. Admitted to making mistakes in his life including not voting in 2016 vowed to not repeat
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:19 PM
Dec 2019

that again and is firmly committed to voting for Bernie Sanders; "another fighter."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. So he's surrounded himself with people who have admitted they voted for Jill Stein or not voted. Hm.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:05 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
24. Why wouldn't any candidate running for President not want their votes?
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:16 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Sure, he gets them in the primary, then they turn around and vote for a third-party candidate or...
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:20 PM
Dec 2019

....not vote at all in the general election.

Are they people a good Democrat should surround himself with? Are they people he should put in high levels of his campaign?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
36. The cream of the crop, apparently.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:37 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
51. You may have misspelled "crop". At least from where I sit.
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 06:58 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
8. Mayor Cruz is up talking about hurricane in Puerto Rico and
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:20 PM
Dec 2019

climate change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Donkees

(31,421 posts)
9. ...
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:21 PM
Dec 2019


@SpencerCarnes94
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
29. Donkees for the...
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:41 PM
Dec 2019

...BAM!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
61. I hear ya Uncle Joe... AOC rocks!!
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 11:10 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
15. AOC is a great leader!!!
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:39 PM
Dec 2019

Another one from the great hospitality biz!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. What is she leading?
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:05 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
27. When I typed that she was speaking to about 2000 humans. ntn
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:39 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. So again, what is she "leading"?
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:40 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. How many? And in what capacity?
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:43 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
32. Ha! You are correct!
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:49 PM
Dec 2019

It is "funny" fun how many Bernie supporters pack in to see him at least once a day.

LA yesterday in front of thousands.

Vegas the next night!

How much fun can anyone take?

Yipee!!!!! Goooo Bernie!!!!!!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
53. It IS fun to watch a movement catching fire... feel the Bern baby!!
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 07:35 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
57. Yes it is, and it will be a pleasure watching Joseph Biden Jr. being sworn in on Jan 20, 2021...
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 09:37 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
38. I lead humans too, 9 to be precise. Could you spare me some exclamation points? I don't...
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:42 AM
Dec 2019

Support Berniie tho, and don’t think much of AOC either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,330 posts)
39. Being a Senator or Congresswoman is much more commendable than captain of a baseball team.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:47 AM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
40. Sigh, if only my work were that interesting and I hold no hope of being raised to the peerage.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 11:53 AM
Dec 2019

Still holding out hope for at least one exclamation point, he seems to have an endless supply.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
42. Odd comment
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:39 PM
Dec 2019

seeing that Bernie has made a point of showing support for minor league baseball.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Donkees

(31,421 posts)
16. Photo: Sanders and @AOC are answering questions on Instagram Live ahead of tonight's Vegas rally
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:42 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Donkees

(31,421 posts)
18. @AOC says Sanders' policies are challenged not because they will lose elections, ...
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 10:50 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Donkees

(31,421 posts)
26. ''I'd say this Vegas group is one of @BernieSanders' loudest and most energized of the year.''
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 11:25 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
54. Dayummmm... thanks for that one Donkees!!
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 07:40 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

brooklynite

(94,602 posts)
47. Hillary Clinton (the "Establishment Democrat") won NV in 2016; I don;'t think AOC will help...
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:01 PM
Dec 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
52. Bernie arrived in Washington a few years
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 07:18 AM
Dec 2019

before the Clintons. He is more establishment than the Clintons.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

David__77

(23,423 posts)
48. This is a long-term struggle.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 03:19 PM
Dec 2019

Building the political constituency that demands and votes for health care, employment, housing, education as rights is bigger than one electoral campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
58. I'm sorry
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 10:55 AM
Dec 2019

But I can't help thinking that this looks like a Sugar Daddy showing off his latest trophy wife

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

booley

(3,855 posts)
63. like them both
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 03:17 AM
Dec 2019

thanks for sharing

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

betsuni

(25,544 posts)
64. AOC: "For anyone who accuses us of purity tests -- it's called having values. It's
Thu Dec 26, 2019, 03:43 AM
Dec 2019

called giving a damn."

No, that's not what it's called.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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